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Turkey's position

WHich of the following defines Turkey?

  • It is a Western nation.

    Votes: 4 22.2%
  • It is an Eastern nation.

    Votes: 2 11.1%
  • It is a mix of Eastern and Western values.

    Votes: 5 27.8%
  • It has a unique position.

    Votes: 6 33.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 5.6%

  • Total voters
    18

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What do you think about Turkey's position in general?

This poll is a very general one. Please select the option that best defines Turkey for you.
 
I generally prefer to rotate it about halfway through the cooking process, and baste it liberally.

Once cooked, I tend to position it toward the head of the table as opposed to the center, so that the carver can serve everyone himself and save a lot of hands and forks reaching across at once.
 
What do you think about Turkey's position in general?

This poll is a very general one. Please select the option that best defines Turkey for you.

As long as its in gravy then I'm all for it.

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I generally prefer to rotate it about halfway through the cooking process, and baste it liberally.

Once cooked, I tend to position it toward the head of the table as opposed to the center, so that the carver can serve everyone himself and save a lot of hands and forks reaching across at once.

....And fools seldom differ.

In all serious having lived in the country i had to vote for 'a mixture of western and eastern values' as it seemed the only way to generalize given the huge differences in attitudes throughout the country. Even if you are talking about the Turkish government you would have to define which part you were talking about given that many elements of the state apparatus enjoy a degree of autonomy (albeit less so since 2010).

It would also beg the question 'position on what?' given that many are very western in terms of religious views, personal/social life etc. but very anti-Western in terms of politics and foreign policy.

I would also question whether 'Western values' are even that western but that's one for the history forum.
 
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Basically a modern, western style, Muslim nation with a secular government. Tis unique.
 
Basically a Muslim nation with a secular government. Tis unique.

Iran's not that far behind. I've heard Ahmadinejad bitch quite a bit about how "westernized" his nation has become and is becoming. I say another 10 years and Sharia will be gone.
 
Basically a modern, western style, Muslim nation with a secular government. Tis unique.

Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan and most of the 'Stans' would disagree.
 
Well yeah, barring the functioning democracy aspect.

that's another matter, though you would be hard pressed to link that to religion. You could have said the same thing about Roman Catholic countries in the mid seventies.
 
Turkmenistan and most of the 'Stans' would disagree.

Oh yeah, the gruesome little dictatorship with abysmal standard of life and a golden statue of Dear Leader (Father of All Turkmen, to be precise) rotating to follow the Sun, his close relative - it is very Western and very modern....
 
I never said it was, i said it was secular.

Edit; with hindsight i should have been clearer. And just to clarify i don't think the government of Turkey is moderate or democratic either
 
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It's a matter of perception, of course, but I think of Turkey as a Western country. Being a secular democracy and a member of NATO, with part of its territory in Europe - that is good enough for me.
 
It's a matter of perception, of course, but I think of Turkey as a Western country. Being a secular democracy and a member of NATO, with part of its territory in Europe - that is good enough for me.

Aside from the whole 'locking up its political opponents thing' But then again Franco and Salazar did that (and worse) also and they were no less 'pro-western' so i would reiterate that we need to move on from the idea of 'The West' being the fountain of benevolence that we wish to believe it is in order for this debate to be meaningful.
 
I generally prefer to rotate it about halfway through the cooking process, and baste it liberally.

Once cooked, I tend to position it toward the head of the table as opposed to the center, so that the carver can serve everyone himself and save a lot of hands and forks reaching across at once.

Ooh!Yum-yum!!

I love it deep-fried also!!
 
Aside from the whole 'locking up its political opponents thing' But then again Franco and Salazar did that (and worse) also and they were no less 'pro-western' so i would reiterate that we need to move on from the idea of 'The West' being the fountain of benevolence that we wish to believe it is in order for this debate to be meaningful.

I answered the question, as it was posed. Turkey now is not a full-bloom liberal democracy, and the treatment of non-violent Kurdish dissidents is of particular concern. One way of nudging it toward "blooming" would be to invite this fast-developing economy into the EU - after certain conditions have been met....
 
I answered the question, as it was posed. Turkey now is not a full-bloom liberal democracy, and the treatment of non-violent Kurdish dissidents is of particular concern. One way of nudging it toward "blooming" would be to invite this fast-developing economy into the EU - after certain conditions have been met....

On the contrary it is getting worst, its ratings for journalistic freedom in particular have fallen dramatically. Though of course had we not backed the 1980 coup there probably would not be an AKP.
 
At least Turkey is not chicken. :lol:
 
Oh yeah, the gruesome little dictatorship with abysmal standard of life and a golden statue of Dear Leader (Father of All Turkmen, to be precise) rotating to follow the Sun, his close relative - it is very Western and very modern....


some people claim to know much more about turkey than l do although l explained it to them many times!!!!!!!!

ATATÜRK means " his father is TÜRK " ,not father of turks!!!!

this is a lie fabrıcated by anti turk traitors( islamists etc)




no dictator is still missed by their people
 
some people claim to know much more about turkey than l do although l explained it to them many times!!!!!!!!

ATATÜRK means " his father is TÜRK " ,not father of turks!!!!

this is a lie fabrıcated by anti turk traitors( islamists etc)




no dictator is still missed by their people

And some people reply to posts (#9, in this case) without reading them. I was talking (obviously) about Turkmenistan and Turkmenbashi - you know, the country in Central Asia, capital Ashgabad, etc.
 
What do you think about Turkey's position in general?

This poll is a very general one. Please select the option that best defines Turkey for you.

Mustafa, why are you calling Turkiye as "Turkey?"
 
I never said it was, i said it was secular.

Edit; with hindsight i should have been clearer. And just to clarify i don't think the government of Turkey is moderate or democratic either
akp ?

yes it is just a puppet

but in general nobody has teh right to judge turkey by its actions against terrorism if we consider their own international crimes

l would like to ask you what UK DİD to İra terrorists for years ?

did it present flowers to them ?
 
you are right. it was a mistake ;)
 
I generally prefer to rotate it about halfway through the cooking process, and baste it liberally.

Once cooked, I tend to position it toward the head of the table as opposed to the center, so that the carver can serve everyone himself and save a lot of hands and forks reaching across at once.

teh west's feeling toward turkey is generally as you described

they really think we are too tasty
 
you are right. it was a mistake ;)

hi mustafa welcome to dp

but are you referring to me or ddd in that post?

also l would like to learn your own opinions about Turkey'S dependence or independece

you know it is a political forum and we usually discuss politic issues
 
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