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Should we open the borders?

Should We open the borders?


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If you come here through the set procedures and do it by the book, you are here legally. The question is whether we should even have a set of proper procedures for them to go through in the first place. I say we should because it makes it much easier to enforce laws if you have a file on everyone in the area, which I believe is a main reason that crime rates are higher in areas populated with large numbers of illegal immigrants. Guilty people don't get caught as easily. That is my opinion in a nutshell.

I say we should as well. We just need to loosen up the quotas and streamline the process.
 
So we shouldn't interact with Mexicans because they're diseased? This is rich.

Why don't we ban people from going on vacation then? Can't have folks coming home with some crazy virus, can we?

People are supposed to have vaccinations before they travel to third world countries. As a matter of fact, I believe there are multiple vaccinations that one must get before traveling to a third world country.
 
I'm talking about opening up legal immigration. The assumption is that the legal immigrants would be documented just like any American.

Well that's not open borders then.
 
People are supposed to have vaccinations before they travel to third world countries. As a matter of fact, I believe there are multiple vaccinations that one must get before traveling to a third world country.

Certain countries, yes. Mexico isn't included in that list.
 
I suggest machine gun nests along the border, and a Constitutional amendment allowing surviving invaders to be sold as slaves.

Or, if our low information citizens are feeling terribly concerned about the people we use as a convenient underclass, I'd be satisfied if we merely annexed Mexico.

But I invite anyone who lies in a fantasy world of open borders and unicorns to allow illegal invaders to live in their home rent free while supporting them.
 
I suggest machine gun nests along the border, and a Constitutional amendment allowing surviving invaders to be sold as slaves.

Or, if our low information citizens are feeling terribly concerned about the people we use as a convenient underclass, I'd be satisfied if we merely annexed Mexico.

But I invite anyone who lies in a fantasy world of open borders and unicorns to allow illegal invaders to live in their home rent free while supporting them.

Reasonable, but think of the economic possibilities. If we flood the US with cheap labor maybe we can get the minimum wage crap taken down here, or at least reduced to something reasonable, like $2/hr. The unskilled and semi-skilled here are way too overpaid compared to their global peers. Going even a step further, we should give out green cards to all foreigners who have middle class level skills who would be happy to work for more way than they did in their own country but much less than what the typical overpaid middle class person here makes. It's about time we start to discipline the middle class and bring them back to the reality of global labor markets.
 
The opening question should have been: Should we close the borders? How do you open something that's already open?
 
I'm talking about opening them up relative to where we are today.

What you mean to say is that you want to loosen up immigration laws then. Open borders is something completely different. Open borders would infer that people can just cross from one country to another without restrictions at all.
 
You know, following the herd is not always the right way to go. Just assess the situation based on its merits. If we bring in more people who are productive, that will benefit society. It has worked for us in the past. There is no reason it wouldn't work for us today.

That's incorrect. There are plenty of reasons it won't work for us today and they've been detailed for you time and again. Oh, and you can refuse to follow the herd and refuse to believe that sticking your hand in the fire will burn you. But you're still going to need that aloe when reality bites you.
 
That's like saying all Italians are in the mob, so we shouldn't have let in any Italian immigrants. The net benefit of immigrants is greater than the net cost.

No, it's not. We allow in many Mexican immigrants every year. Immigrants are not illegal aliens and illegal aliens are not immigrants.
 
What you mean to say is that you want to loosen up immigration laws then. Open borders is something completely different. Open borders would infer that people can just cross from one country to another without restrictions at all.

Yep you're probably right. Too late to change the thread title now, though.
 
Don't know what to tell you, I've been to Mexico several times without getting vaccinated. How many people get vaccines before they go to Cabo, or Cancun, etc?

MOST people do. You're supposed to be vaccinated so that you don't get sick.
 
Don't know what to tell you, I've been to Mexico several times without getting vaccinated. How many people get vaccines before they go to Cabo, or Cancun, etc?

Don't drink the water. ;)
 
We have security issues if we open the border. We need to secure the border, and deal with the 12 million illegals we currently estimate to have in the country. Then, and only then, can we try and address immigration reform.
 
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