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Should we do away with marriage as a legal status?

Should we do away with marriage as a legal status?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 20 45.5%

  • No.

    Votes: 23 52.3%

  • Knibb High football rules!

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Total voters
    44
Gipper said:
You don't think bribery is coercion?
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there is no factual bribery thats just your opinion
and if i wanted to use broken logic like that what about the people that point out the CONS to being married legally, tax wise etc.

they could make just as shallow and false argument as you are that they are coerced not to marry. :shrug:

do those people not count? only your opinion does?
 
AGENT J said:
there is no factual bribery thats just your opinion
and if i wanted to use broken logic like that what about the people that point out the CONS to being married legally, tax wise etc.

they could make just as shallow and false argument as you are that they are coerced not to marry. :shrug:

do those people not count? only your opinion does?
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As far as the one part of your post that's worth a damn - I'm on record many times that marriage should be done away with - thus affecting "CONS" and their ability to claim tax benefits through government-bribed marriage.

The rest of your deflections, diversions, and ramblings I'm going to ignore.
 
Gipper said:
As far as the one part of your post that's worth a damn - I'm on record many times that marriage should be done away with - thus affecting "CONS" and their ability to claim tax benefits through government-bribed marriage.

The rest of your deflections, diversions, and ramblings I'm going to ignore.
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translation: your failed logic was defeated and you cant honestly, factually or logicly support your claims
thanks for playing, you lose

let me know when you can back yup your false claim of force/coercion.
 
AGENT J said:
translation: your failed logic was defeated and you cant honestly, factually or logicly support your claims
thanks for playing, you lose

let me know when you can back yup your false claim of force/coercion.
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I've already said that government-sponsored bribery for marriage is coercion. That's simple fact. If you lack basic comprehension skills, that's on you.
 
Gipper said:
I've already said that government-sponsored bribery for marriage is coercion. That's simple fact. If you lack basic comprehension skills, that's on you.
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nope thats just your OPINION that you cant factually support

if you disagree then simply prove your false claim

simply factual prove thats what it i, should be simply right, ill be here waiting LMAO

go!
 
Quik said:
Unless of course I want rights to my children. FAIL.
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LMAO :lamo

wow you just made yourself look silly

100% FALSE

you are obviously severely uneducated about this particular topic.

are you from America?
general rights to your children have nothing to do with marriage

FAIL
 
AGENT J said:
nope thats just your OPINION that you cant factually support

if you disagree then simply prove your false claim

simply factual prove thats what it i, should be simply right, ill be here waiting LMAO

go!
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LMAO ok go put your fingers in your ears LMAO and continue to think of absolutely nothing useful to say LMAO

Oh, and...

LMAO
 
AGENT J said:
LMAO :lamo

wow you just made yourself look silly

100% FALSE

you are obviously severely uneducated about this particular topic.

are you from America?
general rights to your children have nothing to do with marriage

FAIL
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Establishing paternity. FAIL.
 
Gipper said:
LMAO ok go put your fingers in your ears LMAO and continue to think of absolutely nothing useful to say LMAO

Oh, and...

LMAO
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translation: you cant provide and facts to back up your false claim, we know :shrug:
let us know when this fact changes
 
Quik said:
Establishing paternity. FAIL.
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marriage isnt need for that LMAO :laughat:

you continue to prove with each post how severely uneducated you are on these particular topics.

you lose again
 
AGENT J said:
translation: you cant provide and facts to back up your false claim, we know :shrug:
let us know when this fact changes
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Government-based bribery is coercion. You want "facts" to back it up? Go get a dictionary and quit trolling.
 
Gipper said:
Government-based bribery is coercion. You want "facts" to back it up? Go get a dictionary and quit trolling.
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the dictionary agrees with me :shrug:

if you disagree with me and the dictionary instead of stomping your feet simply prove me wrong.
Simply provide facts to back up your false claim.

of just continue to become uncivil and emotional and use failed insults since your argument got destroyed. Doesnt matter to me LOL

you made another post and yet you have zero facts to support you claim, why?
why cant you just factually prove its coercion?

oh thats right because its not factually.

let us know when you can back up your false claim we'll be here waiting.
 
AGENT J said:
marriage isnt need for that LMAO :laughat:
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It's much easier to establish.

you continue to prove with each post how severely uneducated you are on these particular topics.
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That's ironic. Try adding a dependent on tricare without being legally married, or changing an immigrant status of your spouse so that she can live with you, or even getting discounts.

The things is, I can find a million reasons why the situation is such that we require a government validation (marriage certificate) and why a religious ceremony itself is insufficient. On this particular issue, you've been owned before you even started. Your "argument" is stupid and easily refuted within seconds, as it already has been.
 
Quik said:
That's the key word. The government has created a situation in which I am forced to use their services. If their services did not exist, I wouldn't require them.
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Deuce said:
You aren't forced to do anything. Hold a wedding in a church. Don't tell the government. Nobody will care.
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I couldn't have said it better ...
 
MoSurveyor said:
I couldn't have said it better ...
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I've already explained, several times now, how the government is still involved in the marriage business, and how their involvement compels and coerces me to seek their involvement in order to level the playing field. Please pay attention.
 
Quik said:
It's much easier to establish.



2.)That's ironic. Try adding a dependent on tricare without being legally married,
3.)or changing an immigrant status of your spouse so that she can live with you, or even getting discounts.

4.) The things is, I can find a million reasons why the situation is such that we require a government validation (marriage certificate)
5.)and why a religious ceremony itself is insufficient.
6.)On this particular issue, you've been owned before you even started.
7.)Your "argument" is stupid and easily refuted within seconds, as it already has been.
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1.) no its not if you do it right from the beginning. Is your name on the birth certificate? you have rights to your child then
2.) if the dependent is your child and you have custody its ZERO problem
3.) immigration is the issue here, not the marriage
4.) no its not REQUIRED, it is a tool you cna choose to use
5.) yes i agree religious marriage has nothing to do with legal marriage
6.) false you have been wrong every time you posted so far LMAO FACTS prove you wrong
7.) you say this but yet facts agree with me and they prove you wrong.

you lose again

please list the facts that prove you are FORCED to marry. ill wait :D
 
1) What if it's not on the birth certificate?
2) See previous issue of custody
3) They are both issues.
4) Yes it is.
5) I agree as well, we should abolish legal marriage
6) Incorrect, the opposite is true
7) Only in your fantasy land, not in reality.
 
Quik said:
I've already explained, several times now, how the government is still involved in the marriage business, and how their involvement compels and coerces me to seek their involvement in order to level the playing field. Please pay attention.
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Marriage is nothing more than a legal contract. You could do the same thing without a marriage license using contracts.
 
MoSurveyor said:
Marriage is nothing more than a legal contract. You could do the same thing without a marriage license using contracts.
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The government should not be involved in the marriage business at all.
 
Peter Grimm said:
In Scandinavia, hardly anyone gets married anymore. What is the point? If you love someone, you can live with them. In Sweden, they call this "sambo."

There was a time when pretty much everyone agreed on the definition of marriage... so it worked. Marriage was between a man and a woman, it was a sacred bond, and divorce was an unthinkable stigma. Slowly, for better or for worse, in sickness and in health.... our perceptions have changed.

Now, there is all this fussing and fighting, hooting and hollering over what marriage ought to be, who ought to be allowed to marry whom, etc.

So I say like the ever forward-thinking and practical Swedes: What's the point?

Government shouldn't need to be involved in marriage. For those who want to get married and have a ceremony and wear the pretty dress, you can do so. Go to your church and get married, or your mosque, or your temple, or your favorite casino with a midget elvis impersonator holding the proceedings.... whatever floats your boat.

Wear your pretty dress, have your day in the sun.

But get rid of marriage as a legal status. It serves no purpose except to make society fight over nothing.
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Marriage is a legal contract. A legal arrangement. It's religion that mucks these things up. Lawyers are just one notch above preachers. I don't think there will ever be a logical solution, but lots of faithful rationales.
 
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