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Sarah Palin or Joe Biden, Who's Dumber?

Sarah Palin or Joe Biden, Who's Dumber?


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I think Sarah's dumber just because she says dumb **** and makes dumb arguments using dumb reasoning. Biden - well he just has a classic case of foot in mouth.

Well sure, when Biden said conservatives were looking to put black people "back in chains", that was sure a well reasoned argument. Just outta curiosity are there any liberals you think are dumb?
 
Well sure, when Biden said conservatives were looking to put black people "back in chains", that was sure a well reasoned argument.

And the straw men keep comin' :lol:

And the audience he was giving that speech to wasn't even predominantly black. There were many blacks present, sure, but the reporting skewed it to make it sound like he was addressing black people specifically. I'm not sure there's enough evidence to actually draw that conclusion. Looks to me like he just went a little bit overboard with an economic metaphor.

Just outta curiosity are there any liberals you think are dumb?

Bill Maher
 
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I wouldn't describe either of them as truly dumb. Maybe compared to the average politician, but not to the average person. I also think both of them come off in their speeches and interviews as less intelligent than they truly are.
 
Is there really a question here ...?

 
hmmm

well ive talked about things like this before.

and since we are just comparing the two and using the word dumb and not going into depth its palin by a mile.

Im basing this of the national stage. On the national stage she is a complete and utter bipartisan, hyperbolic, inane, rhetoric filled windbag moron. LOL
The vast majority of reps i know couldnt vote for McCain because of her, they like the energy and fire but not her "in the white house"

Now with that being said, in reality she is by no means "dumb" at all. In many ways im sure she is smarter than me and everyone on this board but hers strengths in politics end at the state level and she is best at rallying on a national level but not leading at all.

Now Biden, he as also made some stupid comments but on a national level he is way above and out of palins league. He does have some horrible foot-in-mouth disease but he can still survive on the national level and I dont know anybody that couldnt/wouldnt vote for Obama because of Biden. (not saying they dont exist just basing it off of me and my experience/opinion)

And for me its the same way, while im not found of joe in the white house and it does exactly "excite me" lol Im "OK" with it. The same can not be said for Palin, i wouldnt want her anywhere near the white house, ever. Her name on a ticket basically guarantees a no vote from me, but hey thats jut me.

now on other fronts Palin is smarter like "sheeping" the populous, making herself money off of them etc etc, shes good at that. :shrug:
 
I don't think that either of them are dumb...

people like to talk like they are so smart, but when you are out in public with cameras all around and have to talk for hours every day... you will slip and say something stupid... you will say something you don't necessarily mean... you will say things you didn't think that well through...

I slip up all the time when the spotlight is on me, I hate speaking in public, I like to think things through and take my time... politics are whole other level...

Most of you are dumbasses to think either these two people are dumb. I bet most of you would be a much worse circus.
All of these perceptions are all manipulated by the media all for partisan advantages. Motivations, attitude, the goals and philosophy behind what people say is the most important.
 
Josie's thread gave me the idea for this one. It's a little funny, to me, when someone says Sarah Palin's dumb because of things she's said but Biden seems to get a complete pass on stupid **** he says all the time (and yes, I know, my partisan bias is showing).

So, who do you think is dumber?

Choices will be;
Sarah
Joe
Both are equally dumb
Neither are dumb

I think that should cover it. Adding poll now.

I don't think Biden is dumb. He just doesn't give an f what anybody thinks of what he says. I personally admire his honesty. He's not a fake obsessed with projecting an image like a lot of politicians.

I don't think Palin is dumb either. I just don't think she's wired for high elected office. PTA president. Small town mayor, no problem. Media pundit, sure. Wife and mom, absolutely. Running the free world? Nah.

Biden is brilliant however. Don't be fooled by his sense of humor or unwillingness to be an actor. He's a transparent what you see is what you get guy.
 
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Josie's thread gave me the idea for this one. It's a little funny, to me, when someone says Sarah Palin's dumb because of things she's said but Biden seems to get a complete pass on stupid **** he says all the time (and yes, I know, my partisan bias is showing).

So, who do you think is dumber?

Choices will be;
Sarah
Joe
Both are equally dumb
Neither are dumb

I think that should cover it. Adding poll now.

I tend to stick with how the Democrats think of Biden since they seem to know more about good old Joe than I.

Joe Biden ran for the Democrat nomination for President two times and could only get 1 % of his own party's vote.

During the Palin-Biden VP debate, Biden couldn't take down Palin. The MSM has been trying to take out Sarah Palin for five years now and they haven't succeeded.

In my life time I never seen so much animosity by the MSM directed towards a candidate than Sarah Palin. And after the 2008 elections they and the left keep throwing blows at Sarah and still can't take her down. Name one other Presidential or Vice Presidential candidate who kept being attacked after an election ? You can't.

Sarah Palin is not a quitter and being a Marine I respect that because Marines don't ever quit and don't respect quitters.

The left is scared of Sarah Palin, because she is something they could never be. How many liberals men or women do you know who can go out in the wilderness and put meat on the table ? How many libs have you seen pulling in a commercial fishing net with their bare hands ? How many liberal women have popped out five kids and still have a hot body ?
 
How many liberal women have popped out five kids and still have a hot body ?
Hollywood is full of hot moms that are liberals. You've probably drooled over a few yourself. :)
 
Intelligence and education are two separate things.

Palin is definitely smarter than Biden. What she lacks in education is made up rather well in other ways.
 
Josie's thread gave me the idea for this one. It's a little funny, to me, when someone says Sarah Palin's dumb because of things she's said but Biden seems to get a complete pass on stupid **** he says all the time (and yes, I know, my partisan bias is showing).

So, who do you think is dumber?

Choices will be;
Sarah
Joe
Both are equally dumb
Neither are dumb

I think that should cover it. Adding poll now.

I find it odd that I and many other people who comment on the dumb stuff Biden says and does are giving him a "complete pass". In fact, I tend to suspect Palin has many more defenders on this board than Biden.

How do you judge intelligence? IQ? In that case, it is impossible to answer, since we do not have access to the information. By dumb stuff they say? Entirely subjective and inaccurate. This thread shows that many judge it by those on their side politically. By accomplishments? Not an accurate measure of intelligence, but the only fairly unbiased method we have where we have enough info to judge(Palin would be dumber then since she has accomplished less), but to repeat, not an accurate measure of intelligence.

The reality is that both have accomplished more than most people, so calling either dumb is probably kinda a dumb thing to do.
 
I tend to stick with how the Democrats think of Biden since they seem to know more about good old Joe than I.

Joe Biden ran for the Democrat nomination for President two times and could only get 1 % of his own party's vote.

During the Palin-Biden VP debate, Biden couldn't take down Palin. The MSM has been trying to take out Sarah Palin for five years now and they haven't succeeded.

In my life time I never seen so much animosity by the MSM directed towards a candidate than Sarah Palin. And after the 2008 elections they and the left keep throwing blows at Sarah and still can't take her down. Name one other Presidential or Vice Presidential candidate who kept being attacked after an election ? You can't.

Sarah Palin is not a quitter and being a Marine I respect that because Marines don't ever quit and don't respect quitters.

The left is scared of Sarah Palin, because she is something they could never be. How many liberals men or women do you know who can go out in the wilderness and put meat on the table ? How many libs have you seen pulling in a commercial fishing net with their bare hands ? How many liberal women have popped out five kids and still have a hot body ?

I for one wonder why anyone would actually want to "pop out" five kids. I have to go with Palin for this simple fact. Anyone who wants to have 5 children must be a little bit dumb.
 
Tough one, but I think Joe Biden actually suffers from Alzheimers or senile dementia or something,.... certainly from about the worst case of foot-in-mouth disease in living memory... so he wins by a nose.

Probably best not to accuse others of dementia or Alzheimer's when you seem to have forgotten about Quayle...to say nothing of the ever entertaining Michele Bachmann.
 
Probably best not to accuse others of dementia or Alzheimer's when you seem to have forgotten about Quayle...to say nothing of the ever entertaining Michele Bachmann.
Dan Quayle - before him everyone thought Ford was the dumbest politician in history. How wrong we all were. LOL!
 
There are just too many idiot politicians to concentrate on just these two I think.
 
The left is scared of Sarah Palin, because she is something they could never be. How many liberals men or women do you know who can go out in the wilderness and put meat on the table ? How many libs have you seen pulling in a commercial fishing net with their bare hands ? How many liberal women have popped out five kids and still have a hot body ?

Where I come from, at least half of all people like the ones you mention are liberals, certainly.

I don't know what sort of partisan-wilderness-fantasy you're speaking from.
 
Dan Quayle - before him everyone thought Ford was the dumbest politician in history. How wrong we all were. LOL!

Ford was definitely no idiot. I got to meet Quayle briefly, and I came away liking the guy, but lordy, he could say the stupidest things.
 
I tend to stick with how the Democrats think of Biden since they seem to know more about good old Joe than I.

Joe Biden ran for the Democrat nomination for President two times and could only get 1 % of his own party's vote.

During the Palin-Biden VP debate, Biden couldn't take down Palin. The MSM has been trying to take out Sarah Palin for five years now and they haven't succeeded.

In my life time I never seen so much animosity by the MSM directed towards a candidate than Sarah Palin. And after the 2008 elections they and the left keep throwing blows at Sarah and still can't take her down. Name one other Presidential or Vice Presidential candidate who kept being attacked after an election ? You can't.

Sarah Palin is not a quitter and being a Marine I respect that because Marines don't ever quit and don't respect quitters.

The left is scared of Sarah Palin, because she is something they could never be. How many liberals men or women do you know who can go out in the wilderness and put meat on the table ? How many libs have you seen pulling in a commercial fishing net with their bare hands ? How many liberal women have popped out five kids and still have a hot body ?

This post is a good example of what amuses me about so many conservatives. First, things are never their own fault. It's always the media. Personal responsibility in anathema to conservatives.

Then there is the denial of the real world. To conservatives, quitting does not make you a quitter. It's Bizzarro world.

And then there is the whole afraid of Palin meme, based on nothing more than wishful thinking, kinda like most conservative policies.
 
Neither Palin or Biden are as stupid as Pelosi, so on the stupid scale, they just don't measure up to the vacuum that is Pelosi.
 
I for one wonder why anyone would actually want to "pop out" five kids. I have to go with Palin for this simple fact. Anyone who wants to have 5 children must be a little bit dumb.

One thing about Sarah Palin and her husband, they were able to afford to be able to raise five children. I question someones intelligence when they have more children than they can afford to raise and have to become dependent on government to help them to pay for raising their children. That's a clear sign of being dumb.
 
I don't know what sort of partisan-wilderness-fantasy you're speaking from.

Hard knocks from living on the Left Coast, aka the Banana Republic of California, Peoples Republik of California, Mexifornia, the Land of Fruits and Nuts.

It's an eye opener and it's not pretty.
 
Hard knocks from living on the Left Coast, aka the Banana Republic of California, Peoples Republik of California, Mexifornia, the Land of Fruits and Nuts.

It's an eye opener and it's not pretty.

Then you should get around more, and look at the world without the partisan blinders. They don't help you in any way. Where I come from there are plenty of fishermen and loggers and hard-labourers of every stripe...and yes, half of them (to put it, well, conservatively) are of a liberal persuasion.

And that's not a knock at local conservatives, who are as decent and hardworking as everyone else.

You see? Different poltiical worldviews...good and productive people on each side. Is it that hard to believe?
 
Not even in the same league. Sarah Palin by a mile. Biden does some stupid things, but he is actually highly intelligent. Sarah Palin on the otherhand is as dumb as a doorbell.
 
Joe is actually a very intelligent man who on occasion will make a harmless gaffe when speaking in public. Joe is extremely well versed on world history, world politics and domestic economy problems and solutions
The right wing hate Joe so they latch onto every slip and make the most of it.
$istah $arah on the other hand is profoundly stupid an uninformed on just about everything in the world.
$arahs stupidity is fundamental to her being and her lack of intellectual curiosity is astounding.
She has the intellect of exactly what she is ...a washed up beauty pageant contestant. She memorizes pat answers to complex questions or pivots to avoid intellectual confrontation by changing the subject. She is a, not so well rehearsed, actor pretending to be a political entity.
 
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