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How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

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winston53660 said:
That has nothing to do with your claim of socialism



Your using this to try and make a point and your taking a guess?

sheeesh talk about lame.
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Really, what grade are you in? First you use a strawman argument. Then you sprinkle in some ideology. I'm just sayin' if you're a judge, and you make a ruling, you'd better be using the state or US constitution. So tell me, Winston, what part of either constitution did those ideologue Maryland judges use to decree gay marriage? If you can't answer, you're a gay marriage ideologue.

I just don't know what you're thinkin'. I'm trying to. That's why I surmised socialism. Seems as plausible as anything else.

There is an answer to this. You'd better do some research. Get on Google, for crying out loud.
 
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Why do I concern myself with what some ideological Mayland Supreme Count justices decreed?
Because every other state supreme court that has decreed gay marriage has used the Maryland decision as a precedent. Now you know a little more than you did before about gay marriage.
 
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cabse5 said:
Really, what grade are you in?
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I'm not in a grade anymore. I completed my Master's Degree aout 15 years ago. Although I still take graduate level courses every now and then.

First you use a strawman argument.
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Wrong, I asked you to support your argument the claim of socialism

Then you sprinkle in some ideology.
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LOL whatever.

I'm just sayin' if you're a judge, and you make a ruling, you'd better be using the state or US constitution. So tell me, Winston, what part of either constitution did those ideologue Maryland judges use to decree gay marriage? If you can't answer, you're a gay marriage ideologue.
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The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.[1]

I just don't know what you're thinkin'. I'm trying to. That's why I surmised socialism. Seems as plausible as anything else.

There is an answer to this. You'd better do some research. Get on Google, for crying out loud.
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Yawn okay whatever it is obvious you can not support your claims of socialism.
 
cabse5 said:
There isn't gay marriage in every state. It's not even close to a majority. Which means, there will be/are mass migrations to the gay marriage states to get gay married.
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My understanding is that states and the feds are required to recognize marriages from other states. The Defense of Marriage Act created a special anti-gay exception. If DOMA is struck down, people can get married in other states and then have their marriage accepted in their home state when they return.
 
cabse5 said:
So says the ideologue.
Ideology has nothing to do with logic, J. Fact is, it's the opposite of logic.

You keep saying gays deserve marriage because a group of ideological supreme court justices in Maryland decreed gays deserve marriage. And, of course, you also believe.
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what facts have you presented to support your claim above?
oh thats right ZERO :LMAO:

that why your arguments keep getting destroyed by every poster here

also I have NEVER said one time that "gays deserve marriage because a group of ideological supreme court justices in Maryland decreed gays deserve marriage."

LMAO now you are so desperate you are lying and everyone sees it and is calling you on it and all you have left is failed insults that are very telling lol

When you are ready to be civil and have a HONEST discussion based on facts and logic you lets us know otherwise you r failed arguments and lies will just keep losing LOL
 
Blue states will adopt SSM, Red States won"t
 
Navy Pride said:
Blue states will adopt SSM, Red States won"t
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Maybe in the near future, but with acceptance of SSM over 80% among 18-29 year olds I don't think that will hold true for long.
 
Navy Pride said:
Blue states will adopt SSM, Red States won"t
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Eventually it will be legal throughout the US. It will take longer (or one sweeping SCOTUS ruling) to make it happen in the red states, but it will happen. You can't stop progress by simply wishing it.
 
Hard Truth said:
My understanding is that states and the feds are required to recognize marriages from other states. The Defense of Marriage Act created a special anti-gay exception. If DOMA is struck down, people can get married in other states and then have their marriage accepted in their home state when they return.
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You're right, if, for example, a gay married couple migrates to California from Iowa, California must recognize the gay marriage of the couple.

Before someone can get gay married in a state, the state must have gay marriage legislation or a state supreme court decree.
So, gays currently cannot get gay married in California.
 
AGENT J said:
Originally Posted by cabse5

So says the ideologue.
Ideology has nothing to do with logic, J. Fact is, it's the opposite of logic.

You keep saying gays deserve marriage because a group of ideological supreme court justices in Maryland decreed gays deserve marriage. And, of course, you also believe.what facts have you presented to support your claim above?
oh thats right ZERO :LMAO:

that why your arguments keep getting destroyed by every poster here

also I have NEVER said one time that "gays deserve marriage because a group of ideological supreme court justices in Maryland decreed gays deserve marriage."
LMAO now you are so desperate you are lying and everyone sees it and is calling you on it and all you have left is failed insults that are very telling lol

When you are ready to be civil and have a HONEST discussion based on facts and logic you lets us know otherwise you r failed arguments and lies will just keep losing LOL
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Look the word fact or logic up. Then look up ideology. There ya' go.
As far as the bold is concerned: nope, you don't care what or why some Maryland judges decreed gay marriage. You're a gay marriage ideologue. Look that word up. How can you argue the meaning of words when you don't even know what the words mean? Duh?
 
roguenuke said:
Eventually it will be legal throughout the US. It will take longer (or one sweeping SCOTUS ruling) to make it happen in the red states, but it will happen. You can't stop progress by simply wishing it.
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So says another gay marriage ideologue.
 
Anagram said:
Maybe in the near future, but with acceptance of SSM over 80% among 18-29 year olds I don't think that will hold true for long.
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As in other opinions of life like home ownership and fiscal responsibility, as they age and have families, the 'younger set' will become more conservative. Not so sure you 'hope' will be true.
 
cabse5 said:
Look the word fact or logic up. Then look up ideology. There ya' go.
As far as the bold is concerned: nope, you don't care what or why some Maryland judges decreed gay marriage. You're a gay marriage ideologue. Look that word up. How can you argue the meaning of words when you don't even know what the words mean? Duh?
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Really?

Question 6 (also called the Maryland same-sex marriage referendum) is a referendum that appeared on the general election ballot for the U.S. state of Maryland to allow voters to approve or reject the Civil Marriage Protection Act—a bill legalizing same-sex marriage—passed by the General Assembly in 2012. The referendum was approved by 52.43% of voters on November 6, 2012. The law went into effect on January 1, 2013.[1]
Maryland Question 6 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Have any of you gay marriage advocates (ideologues) figured out the constitutionality of the gay marriage decree from the Maryland state supreme court ideologues?
 
winston53660 said:
Really?

Question 6 (also called the Maryland same-sex marriage referendum) is a referendum that appeared on the general election ballot for the U.S. state of Maryland to allow voters to approve or reject the Civil Marriage Protection Act—a bill legalizing same-sex marriage—passed by the General Assembly in 2012. The referendum was approved by 52.43% of voters on November 6, 2012. The law went into effect on January 1, 2013.[1]
Maryland Question 6 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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The first time gay marriage was ruled favorably in Maryland by state supreme court justices was, and I'm guessing, the late 1990's. This is where the precedent was set.

First, state supreme court justices decreed gay marriage in the late 1990's, then the state created and passed gay marriage legislation last year.
 
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cabse5 said:
Have any of you gay marriage advocates (ideologues) figured out the constitutionality of the gay marriage decree from the Maryland state supreme court ideologues?
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QWhat decree / case are you talking about?
 
Why are you gay marriage advocates for gay marriage when you seem to know so little about gay marriage?
 
cabse5 said:
The first time gay marriage was ruled favorably in Maryland by state supreme court justices was, and I'm guessing, the late 1990's. This is where the precedent was set.

First, state supreme court justices decreed gay marriage in the late 1990's, then the state created and passed gay marriage legislation last year.
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Wow you just absolutely don't know what you are talking about.

Conaway v. Deane & Polyak [edit]

The Court of Appeals, Maryland's highest court, agreed to hear the state's appeal in 2006, bypassing the intermediate court.[34] To the surprise of spectators, there were almost no questions from the judges during oral argument, which took place on December 4, 2006,[34] causing speculation that the court may have taken the appeal just to reverse the Circuit Court ruling.[34] On September 18, 2007, the court issued its decision in Conaway v. Deane, overturning the trial court ruling for the plaintiffs in a 4–3 decision, and holding that the statutory ban on same-sex marriage did not violate the Maryland Constitution.[5]

They upheld the ban in 2007
 
cabse5 said:
Why are you gay marriage advocates for gay marriage when you seem to know so little about gay marriage?
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Why are you so against it when you know so little about it?

As has been proven by me.
 
winston53660 said:
QWhat decree / case are you talking about?
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Still looking. I've found an article on the Internet about the State Supreme Court of Vermont upholding the same benefits of marriage to same-sex marriages in 1999. Maybe it was Vermont not Maryland. Will continue to look.
 
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winston53660 said:
Why are you so against it when you know so little about it?

As has been proven by me.
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Why has it been proven to you since you don't know why judges voted for gay marriage?
 
winston53660 said:
The Maryland bban on SSM was upheld!
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Try Vermont, instead. I think I mistook the SSC of Maryland for the SSC of Vermont ruling. Sorry for coming down so hard on you, SSC of Maryland (although, it seems, you decreed gay marriage as well) .

As I'm reading the Internet article further, I read that the SSC of Vermont upheld, in 1999, that gay unions should have the same rights and responsibilites as marriages (which I totally agree with).
Unions are not the same as marriages. As it should be.
 
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winston53660 said:
Do your own research if you want to make an argument
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I just did, publically. Now, why do you believe gays should have gay marriage? What's the constitutionality?
 
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