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Charles Ramsey - Castro Abductions

Does this video seem too soon and inappropiate or funny?

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Is this too soon or inappropriate?



Does this seem a little tasteless and too early to laugh at or does it lighten up a serious matter with harmless fun?
 
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grip said:


Does this seem a little tasteless and too early to laugh at or does it lighten up a serious matter with harmless fun?
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I think it's entertaining, creative and does no harm. It made me smile.

Did he really say, "I knew there was something wrong when she ran into a black man's arms"? I think that's, like, heartwarming . . .
 


Does this seem like bad form and tasteless or does it lighten up a serious situation?
 
It's funny but it's also tasteless. It's tasteless humor.

Personally, I found the guys interview to be tasteless as well.
 
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To tell the truth, when I saw that guy interviewed, I liked him right away. He's a no BS guy. We could use more like that. Fun song.
 
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What does she look like?
She's white!
 
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humbolt said:
To tell the truth, when I saw that guy interviewed, I liked him right away. He's a no BS guy. We could use more like that. Fun song.
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Yeah, totally.
 
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I found it kind of tasteless but also funny.

Sometimes people attempt to make light of a serious or bad situation too soon or out of a warped sense of humor.

Now some of the online News pundits are saying it's racial in content, which I think is being too sensitive, AGAIN.
 
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grip said:


Does this seem a little tasteless and too early to laugh at or does it lighten up a serious matter with harmless fun?
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I think it's funny.

His interview was hilarious. I like people who keep it real. That's why his "I knew something was wrong when a pretty white girl ran into a black man's arms" comment was funny.

I think one thing that makes the video and the interview less tasteless or "too soon" for me is that Ramsey was actually involved the situation. He was one of the people who came to rescue and helped those women. Had some random person like a news anchor or DP poster said the things he said, it wouldn't have been as funny. There's something about people being involved in tragedy or difficult situations that makes it permissible (to me at least) for them to be humorous about it.
 
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grip said:
I found it kind of tasteless but also funny.

Sometimes people attempt to make light of a serious or bad situation too soon or out of a warped sense of humor.

Now some of the online News pundits are saying it's racial in content, which I think is being too sensitive, AGAIN.
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I've seen a lot of criticism of the reaction to Ramsey's interview saying it's racially insensitive and condescending and what not. I was surprised for a variety of reasons. I've gotten the impression that most people think Ramsey is funny because of his bluntness and the way he keeps it real. Other people, I think, are reading too much into it by assuming people are just laughing at him because he's black. Those people are over thinking it.

Even so, I don't know that it's right to dismiss them as being "too sensitive". Our perceptions of people are colored by our impressions of gender, race, sexuality, class, education level, et al.. Because of this, I wouldn't consider people hypothesizing a racial element to be "sensitive". It's not out of bounds to consider that any one of those elements colors our perception of Ramsey and everyone else we encounter.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
I think it's funny.

His interview was hilarious. I like people who keep it real. That's why his "I knew something was wrong when a pretty white girl ran into a black man's arms" comment was funny.

I think one thing that makes the video and the interview less tasteless or "too soon" for me is that Ramsey was actually involved the situation. He was one of the people who came to rescue and helped those women. Had some random person like a news anchor or DP poster said the things he said, it wouldn't have been as funny. There's something about people being involved in tragedy or difficult situations that makes it permissible (to me at least) for them to be humorous about it.
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I agree that Ramsey meant it in a humorous way. The supposed controversy is over whether the video is racist or tasteless towards blacks because of the mocking tone and ribs comment, making him look dumb. It was done with a 'songify' app and no words changed, which to me is funny but a little soon because of the subject matter.

ThePlayDrive said:
I've seen a lot of criticism of the reaction to Ramsey's interview saying it's racially insensitive and condescending and what not. I was surprised for a variety of reasons. I've gotten the impression that most people think Ramsey is funny because of his bluntness and the way he keeps it real. Other people, I think, are reading too much into it by assuming people are just laughing at him because he's black. Those people are over thinking it.

Even so, I don't know that it's right to dismiss them as being "too sensitive". Our perceptions of people are colored by our impressions of gender, race, sexuality, class, education level, et al.. Because of this, I wouldn't consider people hypothesizing a racial element to be "sensitive". It's not out of bounds to consider that any one of those elements colors our perception of Ramsey and everyone else we encounter.
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I think to call people racist needs more validation than Freudian slips or poor grammar choices. Many men are called misogynistic and women men haters for any negative comments, making everyone walk on pins and needles because of an overly PC environment. Being overly touchy or easily angered about verbiage isn't going to lead to better social standards or relations as much as tolerance and patience.
 
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it was certainly clever. sort of fits into the gallows humor category.

i've never really known how to feel about gallows humor. part of me laughs, and the other part feels bad for laughing. i remember the first jokes about the Challenger disaster were circulating around my elementary school the next day.

this Castro thing, though. man. i can't wrap my mind around it, and i really don't want to.
 
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grip said:
I think to call people racist needs more validation than Freudian slips or poor grammar choices. Many men are called misogynistic and women men haters for any negative comments, making everyone walk on pins and needles because of an overly PC environment.
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Eh, I think people who feel the need to walk on pins and needles are bringing that on themselves so I don't have much sympathy for that argument. I believe and say plenty of things that piss certain people off. In fact, I've been called misogynistic, racist, et al. and been accused of hating mentally handicapped people amongst other things and while it can be annoying, I don't particularly mind it because I think it's fine for them to be offended by what I said. People just have different lines.

Being overly touchy or easily angered about verbiage isn't going to lead to better social standards or relations as much as tolerance and patience.
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On the flip side, one could argue that easily dismissing people's concerns about racism as you have isn't going to lead to better social standards or relations either. I've been on both sides of this. I've had people accuse me of prejudice rashly and I've had people dismiss my perceptions of prejudice in the manner you are doing to other people right now. I can safely say that neither reaction to people leads to better social standards or relations. Both reactions usually just increase tension and leave people feeling like they haven't been heard.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
Eh, I think people who feel the need to walk on pins and needles are bringing that on themselves so I don't have much sympathy for that argument. I believe and say plenty of things that piss certain people off. In fact, I've been called misogynistic, racist, et al. and been accused of hating mentally handicapped people amongst other things and while it can be annoying, I don't particularly mind it because I think it's fine for them to be offended by what I said. People just have different lines.
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Can't find much fault with your statements. You're right in that people bring it on themselves but too much credence is also given to lip service.


On the flip side, one could argue that easily dismissing people's concerns about racism as you have isn't going to lead to better social standards or relations either. I've been on both sides of this. I've had people accuse me of prejudice rashly and I've had people dismiss my perceptions of prejudice in the manner you are doing to other people right now. I can safely say that neither reaction to people leads to better social standards or relations. Both reactions usually just increase tension and leave people feeling like they haven't been heard.
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I thought about that as I was writing the comment. It's true that too little attention or defense is not good either. But in today's environment for the most part I think it's going the other way. You weaken a cause if you cry too much or inappropriately. Nothing makes people tune out faster than excessive complaining.
 
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funny. the guy is a true hero and with a sense of humor to boot.
 
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OscarB63 said:
funny. the guy is a true hero and with a sense of humor to boot.
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Most people today wouldn't want to get involved with what probably appeared like something domestic. Even the police when called to the home didn't investigate very intensely. Ramsey without much thought for personal interest went to help.
 
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It had a good beat I personally can only understand 1 sentence in songs anyway . Auto tune can make anyone sound like they can sing well.
 
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I think a little comic relief in the midst otherwise horrible news can be healthy.
 
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grip said:
I thought about that as I was writing the comment. It's true that too little attention or defense is not good either. But in today's environment for the most part I think it's going the other way. You weaken a cause if you cry too much or inappropriately. Nothing makes people tune out faster than excessive complaining.
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I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that. In my experience, just as many people dismiss/minimize concerns of prejudice as voice/exaggerate concerns about prejudice. And the thing about saying that people "cry too much or inappropriately" is that such a judgement is entirely subjective. Moreover, when people do what you perceive as "excessive complaining", it doesn't necessarily weaken their cause so much as alienates some people. In fact, oftentimes, the people who feel that others are "crying too much" end up being the pariahs. That's what happened to people who felt pro-Civil Rights individuals "cried too much", what's happening to people who think pro-SSM individuals are "too sensitive" and what may happen to those of us who feel that people who take issue with "retard" complain excessively.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that. In my experience, just as many people dismiss/minimize concerns of prejudice as voice/exaggerate concerns about prejudice. And the thing about saying that people "cry too much or inappropriately" is that such a judgement is entirely subjective. Moreover, when people do what you perceive as "excessive complaining", it doesn't necessarily weaken their cause so much as alienates some people. In fact, oftentimes, the people who feel that others are "crying too much" end up being the pariahs. That's what happened to people who felt pro-Civil Rights individuals "cried too much", what's happening to people who think pro-SSM individuals are "too sensitive" and what may happen to those of us who feel that people who take issue with "retard" complain excessively.
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Basically you're saying that those who dismiss concerns about prejudice cancel out those who exaggerate? And where the line is between the two is subjective?

People who complain excessively do weaken their cause if they alienate part of the population. Though the bigots also loose any fringe support from the mainstream when they espouse their ignorance. So I have to agree with you that both ends do seem to balance out leaving the majority more aware of the real situation. Good analyses.
 
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