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GOP Benghazi hearings a partisan disgrace?

GOP Benghazi hearings a partisan disgrace?


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Yes, it's become another partisian witch-hunt that Fox News runs 24/7 while certain preening republican congress-critters are using to taint potential democratic candidates in 2016. It's pretty disgraceful, that disgraceful is SOP for congress nowadays, on both sides of the aisle.

Issa is now and always has been an exceptionally smelly partisian turd in an overflowing toilet. I'm ashamed he's from my state.
 
Yes, it's become another partisian witch-hunt that Fox News runs 24/7 while certain preening republican congress-critters are using to taint potential democratic candidates in 2016. It's pretty disgraceful, that disgraceful is SOP for congress nowadays, on both sides of the aisle.

Issa is now and always has been an exceptionally smelly partisian turd in an overflowing toilet. I'm ashamed he's from my state.

What do you have against finding out the truth?
 
What do you have against finding out the truth?

When hard evidence is brought to prove that there were deliberate lies, not just the media/political spewing of picked-apart words during the confusion in the after attack, I'll look at it. Last I heard the CIA admitted that the talking points given to UN Ambassador Rice had been "reworked" before she received them. The actual reports submitted by bi-partisian investigations have either been cherry-picked for quotes or totally ignored. Husby had Fox News on over the weekend, and they are still harping about Rice's words, when was a terrorist attack a terrorist attack and who knew what when... all crap from a couple weeks after the incident, when Libya was saying one thing and DC was trying to figure out what happened, while being denied access to the site itself.

Everything else is pure, unadulterated fabrication, speculation, commentary, and partisian bull****.

I don't have much respect for either the republicans or the democrats when it comes to partisian smokescreens and slight of hand. This time it's the republicans. Next time it'll be the democrats. Bull**** all around.
 
When hard evidence is brought to prove that there were deliberate lies, not just the media/political spewing of picked-apart words during the confusion in the after attack, I'll look at it. Last I heard the CIA admitted that the talking points given to UN Ambassador Rice had been "reworked" before she received them. The actual reports submitted by bi-partisian investigations have either been cherry-picked for quotes or totally ignored. Husby had Fox News on over the weekend, and they are still harping about Rice's words, when was a terrorist attack a terrorist attack and who knew what when... all crap from a couple weeks after the incident, when Libya was saying one thing and DC was trying to figure out what happened, while being denied access to the site itself.

Everything else is pure, unadulterated fabrication, speculation, commentary, and partisian bull****.

I don't have much respect for either the republicans or the democrats when it comes to partisian smokescreens and slight of hand. This time it's the republicans. Next time it'll be the democrats. Bull**** all around.

I just want the truth to come out, there was obviously some very bad decisions made and we need to know who made them and why.
 
I just want the truth to come out, there was obviously some very bad decisions made and we need to know who made them and why.

And you think another partisian Circus de Issa is going to lead to "the truth?" Bwahahahaha! That is NOT what congressional hearings are designed for. They are designed for committee members to give speeches to their constituents consistent with their particular political needs, either left or right, to push their version of "the truth" while casting aspersions on the "other side", which can then be neatly sound-bited during election years. The "real truth", if anyone has even managed to figure it out yet, would be in thousands of pages of investigative results, which interest neither journalist nor congress-critter. :lol:
 
And you think another partisian Circus de Issa is going to lead to "the truth?" Bwahahahaha! That is NOT what congressional hearings are designed for. They are designed for committee members to give speeches to their constituents consistent with their particular political needs, either left or right, to push their version of "the truth" while casting aspersions on the "other side", which can then be neatly sound-bited during election years. The "real truth", if anyone has even managed to figure it out yet, would be in thousands of pages of investigative results, which interest neither journalist nor congress-critter. :lol:

We got a little truth today. Men that wanted to go help were told to stand down and they were furious about it.
 
The testimony wasn't partisan. I am glad we are hearing it. The rhetoric from the politicians? Yeah, definitely partisan.
 
We got a little truth today. Men that wanted to go help were told to stand down and they were furious about it.

So you disagree with a military order, yawn. This must be the first time someone in the chain of command screwed up. Sound the trumpets.
If any of you really cared about American lives you would be pushing for more money for Embassy security instead of this nonsense.
Turning the death of an ambassador into this 3 ring circus for political gain is despicable.
 
And you think another partisian Circus de Issa is going to lead to "the truth?" Bwahahahaha!

I know this. The line that the administration came out with was not the truth. And they knew that. You can argue over whether or not Ambassador Rice knew that or not (at this point I don't really know on that one). But if she didn't, then at some point the person who changed those talking points did.
 
The testimony wasn't partisan. I am glad we are hearing it. The rhetoric from the politicians? Yeah, definitely partisan.

Agreed. Politicians are there for the reasons politicians do things. The people who are testifying are there for different reasons entirely. And I am glad that someone is starting to say the truth about this.
 
The partisanship started with the decision to falsely report the nature of the event in Benghazi. There certainly are partisan games being played, but most of us simply want the truth, and we're finally getting a little of that. There's little doubt that a presidential election and the politics surrounding it played a part in the characterization of this event, but what actually occurred that day in Benghazi transcends politics and speaks of a deeper moral failure.
 
The only "partisan disgrace" was the Obama admin's decision to lie to the country about what happened in order to cover up its incompetence.
 
So you disagree with a military order, yawn. This must be the first time someone in the chain of command screwed up. Sound the trumpets.
If any of you really cared about American lives you would be pushing for more money for Embassy security instead of this nonsense.
Turning the death of an ambassador into this 3 ring circus for political gain is despicable.

Not a military order a state dept order and we need to know Hillary's role in this because she may soon be running for pres. If she had any role in this bungled incident we need to know.
 
It's just typical political grandstanding---something politicians do regardless the significance. So, it's not really a disgrace even though it is disgraceful.
 
Everything the gubmint does is a partisan disgrace. Whether or not they're handling it well is different than asking whether or not this needs to be investigated. I don't see how anyone can say with a straight face that it should not be investigated. That level of partisanship would be far beyond disgraceful.
 
Someone needs to tell John Kerry that his Republican partisanship is disgraceful.

John Kerry vows
 
Someone needs to tell John Kerry that his Republican partisanship is disgraceful.

John Kerry vows

That's an interesting article, particularly Kerry's tone. Makes one wonder if one of the two perps, Obama or Hillary, must be thrown under the bus, if they will blame everything on Hillary. They already put Susan rice out there to see if she could make the mean people go away, now they're going to have to go higher.
 
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What do you have against finding out the truth?

Eleven (11) embassies were attacked under the administration of GWShiiteForBrains and 61 people died and the same investigators, screamers, partisan turds, and trogolodytes ignored those attacks. I must have missed something. Why not investigate the first eleven to see if a security problem existed and could be corrected. Since we're not doing that, it must be partisan politics and Obama will always be a liar on this matter. Why doesn't the administration just say, "is it possible our security was lax and we need to study all 12 incidents to make security recommendations?"
 
Eleven (11) embassies were attacked under the administration of GWShiiteForBrains and 61 people died and the same investigators, screamers, partisan turds, and trogolodytes ignored those attacks. I must have missed something. Why not investigate the first eleven to see if a security problem existed and could be corrected. Since we're not doing that, it must be partisan politics and Obama will always be a liar on this matter. Why doesn't the administration just say, "is it possible our security was lax and we need to study all 12 incidents to make security recommendations?"

It is not the embassy being attacked that is the issue here. There are four main questions in regard to Benghazi.

Why was the ambassadors request for more security denied?

Why wasn't help sent when the embassy came under attack?

Where was Obama for the seven hours this attack went on?

Why did the White House lie to us about this being a terrorist attack?
 
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When hard evidence is brought to prove that there were deliberate lies, not just the media/political spewing of picked-apart words during the confusion in the after attack, I'll look at it. Last I heard the CIA admitted that the talking points given to UN Ambassador Rice had been "reworked" before she received them. The actual reports submitted by bi-partisian investigations have either been cherry-picked for quotes or totally ignored. Husby had Fox News on over the weekend, and they are still harping about Rice's words, when was a terrorist attack a terrorist attack and who knew what when... all crap from a couple weeks after the incident, when Libya was saying one thing and DC was trying to figure out what happened, while being denied access to the site itself.

Everything else is pure, unadulterated fabrication, speculation, commentary, and partisian bull****.

I don't have much respect for either the republicans or the democrats when it comes to partisian smokescreens and slight of hand. This time it's the republicans. Next time it'll be the democrats. Bull**** all around.

This is what the hearings are for.

How are you going to hear the truth with people like you saying there is nothing to see here.

It sounds a Little dishonest to me.
 
Eleven (11) embassies were attacked under the administration of GWShiiteForBrains and 61 people died and the same investigators, screamers, partisan turds, and trogolodytes ignored those attacks. I must have missed something. Why not investigate the first eleven to see if a security problem existed and could be corrected. Since we're not doing that, it must be partisan politics and Obama will always be a liar on this matter. Why doesn't the administration just say, "is it possible our security was lax and we need to study all 12 incidents to make security recommendations?"

No partisanship in this post, that's for sure.
 
This is what the hearings are for.

How are you going to hear the truth with people like you saying there is nothing to see here.

It sounds a Little dishonest to me.

I think we are saying there has been an independent study now lets get back to some real business. It is pointless to try and lay blame on one person for something that was undoubtably a situation where many mistakes were made along the line of command. These "hearings" at least give the impression of a "witch hunt" which will only result in scorn from most Americans. Give it up and stop stalling on immigration reform.
 
I think we are saying there has been an independent study now lets get back to some real business. It is pointless to try and lay blame on one person for something that was undoubtably a situation where many mistakes were made along the line of command. These "hearings" at least give the impression of a "witch hunt" which will only result in scorn from most Americans. Give it up and stop stalling on immigration reform.

So you are satisfied with how this went down. Most are not.

The questions need to be answered then everybody can go on to other business.

What the hell does this have to do with immigration?
 
Eleven (11) embassies were attacked under the administration of GWShiiteForBrains and 61 people died and the same investigators, screamers, partisan turds, and trogolodytes ignored those attacks. I must have missed something. Why not investigate the first eleven to see if a security problem existed and could be corrected. Since we're not doing that, it must be partisan politics and Obama will always be a liar on this matter. Why doesn't the administration just say, "is it possible our security was lax and we need to study all 12 incidents to make security recommendations?"

I don't think the anger over this has to do with the consulate being attacked. Embassies and consulates get attacked, it happens. I think the anger is over the response to the attack, at least for those who are legitimately angry and not just grand standing.
 
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