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GOP Benghazi hearings a partisan disgrace?

GOP Benghazi hearings a partisan disgrace?

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DiAnna said:
Only those who are so filled with ideological hatred that they have separated the entire country into "us"... those who hate Obama... and "them"... those who don't hate Obama... can "see that." I personally have no use for either political party, and hold both in equal contempt.

Nor am I now nor have I ever been an Obama fan, having repeatedly referred to him as unqualified, inexperienced, inept. So your attempts to label me as "them" because I am not so blinded by hatred that I can clearly see the obvious are, appropriately, a Fail for you. :)
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You may not be a partisan hack, however, considering what you have posted against the Benghazi hearings, it is very hard to see you as anything but ideologically biased and an Obama fan. No objective person would have an objection to continuing the hearings until we get to the bottom of what happened and why the administration attempted to cover it up. I am not a republican or democrat either....and I do not like scandals. However when they occur and the administration stonewalls the investigation, I just want to get to the bottom of it. The sooner the Obama administration stops stonewalling and comes clean, the sooner we can move on and put the scandal behind us. Historically, the more an administration attempts to cover up, the more trouble it gets into. Nixon and Clinton are prime examples. Point is.....until all the questions are answered the Benghazi issue is not going to go away, no matrer how much the administration stonewalls and shouts "Nothing to see here."
 
ObamacareFail said:
I don't care what it is....as long as the truth finally comes out.
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Judging by your screen name, I don't see "the truth finally coming out" as part of the equation you're really interested in solving. Methinks your mind's been made up since 9-12-2012. :roll:
 
calamity said:
Judging by your screen name, I don't see "the truth finally coming out" as part of the equation you're really interested in solving. Methinks your mind's been made up since 9-12-2012. :roll:
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Like it or not....my screen name is an honest expression of my opinion of Obamacare If it were the same bill under Bush, I would be calling it Bush
CareFail. I don't care which party came up with the so-called ACA. It is a monumental disaster and an unconstitutional piece of trash. In any case, my screen name has nothing to do with Benghazi.
 
Wow.................. People are still talking about Benghazi -_-. I do appreciate their efforts to heroically disgrace the Obama administration, but without proof, its just endless blabber to me.
 
Csareo said:
Wow.................. People are still talking about Benghazi -_-. I do appreciate their efforts to heroically disgrace the Obama administration, but without proof, its just endless blabber to me.
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Of course people are still talking about it.

Even if this new investigation thingy finds that no malicious intent or even incompetent lack of response occurred, people will still be talking about it decades from now.

Not as many though.
 
The Mark said:
Of course people are still talking about it.

Even if this new investigation thingy finds that no malicious intent or even incompetent lack of response occurred, people will still be talking about it decades from now.

Not as many though.
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I was not being sarcastic when I said I "appreciate" their efforts. I simply think this topic is to tired to be talked about. At least not the ever so biased media.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Like it or not....my screen name is an honest expression of my opinion of Obamacare If it were the same bill under Bush, I would be calling it Bush
CareFail. I don't care which party came up with the so-called ACA. It is a monumental disaster and an unconstitutional piece of trash. In any case, my screen name has nothing to do with Benghazi.
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Justice Robert is conservative, you say you're conservative, Roberts disagrees with you. He outranks you.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Like it or not....my screen name is an honest expression of my opinion of Obamacare If it were the same bill under Bush, I would be calling it Bush
CareFail. I don't care which party came up with the so-called ACA. It is a monumental disaster and an unconstitutional piece of trash. In any case, my screen name has nothing to do with Benghazi.
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Benghazi is a witch hunt intended to throw red meat to the GOP base which will then scratch checks, nothing more nothing less.
 
Csareo said:
Wow.................. People are still talking about Benghazi -_-. I do appreciate their efforts to heroically disgrace the Obama administration, but without proof, its just endless blabber to me.
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It's not personal. We just want to get to the bottom of what happened in Benghazi and why the administration outright lied to us for two weeks. If the administration were not stonewalling and basically shouting: "Move on...nothing to see here!" we could get past Benghazi.
 
ObamacareFail said:
It's not personal. We just want to get to the bottom of what happened in Benghazi and why the administration outright lied to us for two weeks. If the administration were not stonewalling and basically shouting: "Move on...nothing to see here!" we could get past Benghazi.
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I'll ask you what I ask all advocates for benghazi.......Burden of Proof? No man has ever been able to prove it beyond a doubt, which is why the benghazi talk is annoying.
 
calamity said:
Benghazi is a witch hunt intended to throw red meat to the GOP base which will then scratch checks, nothing more nothing less.
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Such bias! The real witch hunt was the "Who outed Valery Plame as a CIA agent" fiasco that the democrats held onto for so long. The Bush administration cooperated and the leaker was determined almost immediate (Richard Armitage). Yet he was bypassed and they kept on investigating going as Armitage never was their target. Once it was clear that they were not going to nail any high profile target such as Bush, Cheney, or Rove, they settled for nailing Scooter Libby for false testimony (probably not intentional), after the fact as they could not close the scandal empty handed.
 
pbrauer said:
Justice Robert is conservative, you say you're conservative, Roberts disagrees with you. He outranks you.
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And I disagree with Roberts. If you have even a basic understanding of the constitution, the ACA is in fact undeniably unconstitutional. That was why Roberts legislated from the bench and referred to the penalty for not buying insurance as a tax despite the fact that the bill did not write it up as a tax. And the administration and democrat party claimed multiple times that it was not a tax while they were trying to sell it to the public. Roberts got it wrong.
 
calamity said:
Benghazi is a witch hunt intended to throw red meat to the GOP base which will then scratch checks, nothing more nothing less.
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You are not fooling anyone. If the roles were reversed and it was a republican administration in the same situation with the same behavior, you would be screaming for impeachment by now.
 
ObamacareFail said:
You are not fooling anyone. If the roles were reversed and it was a republican administration in the same situation with the same behavior, you would be screaming for impeachment by now.
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I love when people create an imaginary scenario and then attempt to tell other people how they'd react to it.
 
Csareo said:
I'll ask you what I ask all advocates for benghazi.......Burden of Proof? No man has ever been able to prove it beyond a doubt, which is why the benghazi talk is annoying.
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Just the fact that the administration lied for two weeks claiming that the attacks were over a you tube video when they knew almost immediately after the attacks occurred that it was a terrorist act, is proof enough for me that the administration is involved in cover up.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Just the fact that the administration lied for two weeks claiming that the attacks were over a you tube video when they knew almost immediately after the attacks occurred that it was a terrorist act, is proof enough for me that the administration is involved in cover up.
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And nobody has ever been able to tell me what, exactly, they "covered up."
 
ObamacareFail said:
Just the fact that the administration lied for two weeks claiming that the attacks were over a you tube video when they knew almost immediately after the attacks occurred that it was a terrorist act, is proof enough for me that the administration is involved in cover up.
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There's no proof it was a lie, or at least not burden of proof. Nothings changed, and while I synthasize with your struggle, I'll let you into a secret. The GOP, will be torn down if they keep pursuing this path. Currently, the Benghazi scandal is hurting the GOP more than the Democratic Party.
 
ObamacareFail said:
You are not fooling anyone. If the roles were reversed and it was a republican administration in the same situation with the same behavior, you would be screaming for impeachment by now.
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3000 died when Bush lied. You're crying over 4 dead and can't even prove anyone lied.
 
calamity said:
3000 died when Bush lied. You're crying over 4 dead and can't even prove anyone lied.
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Actually A) we know that the administration lied, because we knew that they knew at the time that it wasn't a youtube video protest, but that it had been clear from the get-go that it was an organized assault by the local al-qaeda affiliate, and B) Bush didn't lie, he was wrong. He was joined in being wrong by Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and virtually every major leader of the Democrat party from that time period and just before hand, as well as the Intelligence Community of every major western power, but he was still wrong.
 
calamity said:
Are you claiming Obama invented talking points or that they are not standard operating procedure since at least the 1980's?

Besides, in the end, the original talking points released on 912 were shown to be pretty close to the exact events on 9-11-2012. They certainly were a lot more accurate than the GWB talking points originally released on 911 back in 2001, which certainly did not include the fact that Bush sat frozen in a classroom full of school children while the tallest building's in America's largest city burned.
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Yep, he invented them.

And the Bush crap is played out bro. Give it a rest. I'd like to have seen your reaction if the largest terrorist attack the world had ever seen occurred while you were the most powerful man in the world and the attack occurred on the very soil that makes you that powerful. I don't care who was POTUS at that point, they would receive a pass for anything less that running out of that room screaming like a mad man. I thought Bush handled as good as could be expected.
 
cpwill said:
Actually A) we know that the administration lied, because we knew that they knew at the time that it wasn't a youtube video protest, but that it had been clear from the get-go that it was an organized assault by the local al-qaeda affiliate, and B) Bush didn't lie, he was wrong. He was joined in being wrong by Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and virtually every major leader of the Democrat party from that time period and just before hand, as well as the Intelligence Community of every major western power, but he was still wrong.
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Clinton, Kerry and all of us were hoodwinked by the lies comming out of the administration. After all, it was Bush, Cheney, Powell and Rice who went on TV warning us of mushroom clouds. Pure BS is what it was.

Bush lied, thousands died. And, you all whine over 4 dead in Libya.
 
MarineTpartier said:
Yep, he invented them.

And the Bush crap is played out bro. Give it a rest. I'd like to have seen your reaction if the largest terrorist attack the world had ever seen occurred while you were the most powerful man in the world and the attack occurred on the very soil that makes you that powerful. I don't care who was POTUS at that point, they would receive a pass for anything less that running out of that room screaming like a mad man. I thought Bush handled as good as could be expected.
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Bush looked like he popped his pants. I saw the video. But, I'm not surprised you'd still say that. :roll:
 
calamity said:
Bush looked like he popped his pants. I saw the video. But, I'm not surprised you'd still say that. :roll:
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Actually, I wasn't a Bush supporter bud. Nice try though. I was a member of the Tea Party back when it started under the Bush Administration (yes, it's true). I don't care if it's Bush, Clinton, Obama, whoever. That is a tough hand he was dealt. I felt the same way about the Boston Marathon for Pres Obama. Politics go to the wayside when a guy has to lead us through a tough stretch.
 
calamity said:
Clinton, Kerry and all of us were hoodwinked by the lies comming out of the administration.
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actually they all had access to the same information. furthermore, the claims about Saddam's WMD programs pre-existed the Bush administration, and were part of the Clinton Administrations decision to change U.S. policy to that of regime change :).

After all, it was Bush, Cheney, Powell and Rice who went on TV warning us of mushroom clouds. Pure BS is what it was.
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I don't recall the mushroom clouds (i recall a lot about chem/bio and some about dirty bombs), but no, it wasn't pure B.S. Firstly because we found both uranium and chemical weapons in Iraq, and Secondly because it was the opinion of the IC that there were active production lines ongoing in Iraq at the time, protected by a significant (and previously successful) D&D campaign by a regime skilled in that technique. And not just our own IC, but that of our allies and even our not-so-allies.

Bush lied, thousands died.
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I realize that's a handy bumper sticker. It merely lacks what Henry Kissinger used to call "the added benefit of being true".
 
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