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Fate of the Boston Bomber

What should we do with the Boston Bomber thats still alive?

  • Life in Prison; Preferably maximum security

    Votes: 21 63.6%

  • Execute him; Skin him alive and crucify him upside down

    Votes: 7 21.2%

  • Strip him of citizenship; let Russia deal with him

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • STFU!! The Red Sox are winning right now.

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • Total voters
    33
Lightning said:
I'm not sure if this has already been discussed so I'm just to go give it a shot...

What should be done with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev?
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Death penalty.

His brother should be tossed in the ocean.

Scumbags.
 
Ikari said:
I'm glad we haven't quite devolved this much just yet.
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I'm glad we have people like you to sympathize for a piece of **** who knowingly sets a bomb next to an 8-year-old child.
 
Mathematician said:
I'm glad we have people like you to sympathize for a piece of **** who knowingly sets a bomb next to an 8-year-old child.
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Meh, we all have to evolve sometime. Thanks for the appeal to emotion there, it makes for a strong foundation of an argument.
 
Ikari said:
Meh, we all have to evolve sometime. Thanks for the appeal to emotion there, it makes for a strong foundation of an argument.
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It's not just an appeal to emotion. The years of life stolen from those killed, plus the life-long suffering to the victims who survived, can't be repaid entirely. So he deserves to suffer as closely as possible to the total suffering he inflicted as he is killed.

By the way, explain why you think letting killers live is "evolving"? If anything, as population grows you think we'd have more reasons to get rid of living scum.
 
Mathematician said:
It's not just an appeal to emotion. The years of life stolen from those killed, plus the life-long suffering to the victims who survived, can't be repaid entirely.
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Certainly cannot.

Mathematician said:
So he deserves to suffer as closely as possible to the total suffering he inflicted as he is killed.
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Justice is not about revenge.

Mathematician said:
By the way, explain why you think letting killers live is "evolving"? If anything, as population grows you think we'd have more reasons to get rid of living scum.
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No, that's more Dark Ages group think. We aggregate the technologies and the means to produce equivalent (if not greater) security for society without necessitating the killing of criminals. Which is why moving away from the Death Penalty is a sign of evolving.
 
While he deserves the death penalty, that choice is silly and unrealistic. Though, let the records show that I think he deserves the death penalty.
 
DashingAmerican said:
While he deserves the death penalty, that choice is silly and unrealistic. Though, let the records show that I think he deserves the death penalty.
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Explain why you think it's silly and unrealistic.
 
Mathematician said:
Explain why you think it's silly and unrealistic.
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Because, in today's society, no legal system, and not many people are going to say someone needs skinned and crucified. So, while I think he does deserve to be executed, skinning him is inhumane, for the person having to do the skinning.
 
DashingAmerican said:
Because, in today's society, no legal system, and not many people are going to say someone needs skinned and crucified. So, while I think he does deserve to be executed, skinning him is inhumane, for the person having to do the skinning.
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Yup, as fun as it was, the days of tarring and feathering, riding people out on a rail, quartering, etc. are over.
 
DashingAmerican said:
Because, in today's society, no legal system, and not many people are going to say someone needs skinned and crucified. So, while I think he does deserve to be executed, skinning him is inhumane, for the person having to do the skinning.
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So the details specified in the poll are what you find silly, not the actual death penalty for him, right?
 
Try him for his crimes and execute him like any other criminal. Didn't vote in the poll because I don't think he should be skinned alive or crucified.
 
DashingAmerican said:
Because, in today's society, no legal system, and not many people are going to say someone needs skinned and crucified. So, while I think he does deserve to be executed, skinning him is inhumane, for the person having to do the skinning.
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Or just send his ass to Abu Ghraib like the terrorist he (allegedly) is.
 
Mathematician said:
So the details specified in the poll are what you find silly, not the actual death penalty for him, right?
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No problem with the death penalty. Just the specifications of the poll.
 
Surtr said:
Or just send his ass to Abu Ghraib like the terrorist he (allegedly) is.
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I'm not ready to say he is or isn't a terrorist, though the line of reasoning suggests that he is.
 
I think it will depend on the details that emerge about how the bombing came about. I have no problem with the death penalty in principle, though I do think we mis-apply it. If it turns out he was a young and impressionable kid who was cajoled/persuaded, or especially threatened/brainwashed, by his older brother, then I'd be inclined to let him live. If he turns out to have had an equal hand in the motivation of the bombing, then I think the case is less clear.

It's all too easy to call out "blood for blood." But this is a bronze-age system of morality. How many prophets, whom we regard as wise and admirable, have to tell us to drop such a system before we start to believe them?
 
Just so you know it would be prison not jail. Jail is when you are convicted of a misdemeanor you go to jail for a maximum of one year. Prison is where he would if he is convicted, wich most likely he will be.
 
First... dear poll-maker, please give us a few legitimate options instead of the one option you prefer, and a bunch of others that make folks who vote for them look like brain-dead imbeciles. Thank you.

Obviously, he must be convicted at trial, and potential sentences depend on exactly what specific charges he is convicted of, and whether the trial is state or federal. At this point, I don't think specific charges have been made public.

Presuming that he is convicted of a crime(s) that allow life in prison without possibility of parole or death, I would prefer life in prison as long as life really means life. If he is sentenced to death, I certainly wouldn't shed any tears, but I'd prefer he didn't go down as a martyr that others of his ilk admire and attempt to emulate.

One way or the other, he should never, ever be free again.
 
Lightning said:
I'm not sure if this has already been discussed so I'm just to go give it a shot...

What should be done with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev?
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Super max his ass! :mrgreen:
 
On second thought, we could just send him to Fort Leavenworth and what happens happens.
 
Mathematician said:
It's not just an appeal to emotion. The years of life stolen from those killed, plus the life-long suffering to the victims who survived, can't be repaid entirely. So he deserves to suffer as closely as possible to the total suffering he inflicted as he is killed.

By the way, explain why you think letting killers live is "evolving"? If anything, as population grows you think we'd have more reasons to get rid of living scum.
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When one does that much suffering to totally innocent people you won't get any sympathy from me.
I don't care if he is a terrorist or he is a Shriner he is an asswipe of the worst degree.
Am hoping he gets the Jeff Dahmer welcoming to prison.

If that was my 8 year old grandson I would unleash the fires of hell that have never been seen before. I won't discuss it openly but it has never been done before.
 
MaggieD said:
No, not soliary confinement for the rest of his life. I find that horribly cruel. Really. Horribly cruel. I wish he could be segregated from prisoners, though, so as not to "find his calling" to be converting others to Radical Islam.
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Come on Mags. It's also horribly cruel that toddlers had their legs taken by this thug. While I do not agree with the death penalty, I have no issue sticking this dude in a 5x5 hole for the rest of his life. The guy walked past women and children and sat a back pack full of explosives down, knowing who it would hit. THAT is horribly cruel.
 
Mathematician said:
Shove a stick of dynamite up his ***, light, and enjoy the show. I'd even watch it on pay-per-view with the proceeds going to the victims.
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Gross, and I would never advocate such a position. I have to admit, it wouldn't bother me in such cases either.

Death penalty, yes. That method... There are cleaner ways...
 
Crosscheck said:
When one does that much suffering to totally innocent people you won't get any sympathy from me.
I don't care if he is a terrorist or he is a Shriner he is an asswipe of the worst degree.
Am hoping he gets the Jeff Dahmer welcoming to prison.

If that was my 8 year old grandson I would unleash the fires of hell that have never been seen before. I won't discuss it openly but it has never been done before.
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IMO, anyone who doesn't think this guy deserves to suck on a grenade is a stinking wussy.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Gross, and I would never advocate such a position. I have to admit, it wouldn't bother me in such cases either.

Death penalty, yes. That method... There are cleaner ways...
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He didn't kill in a "cleaner way, so why in the heck should he get special treatment? You get what you give in life!
 
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