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Are political issues debatable?

Is politics debatable?

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kenc said:
QFT. I think we as a society now tend to turn any issue into an "us against them" fight. Either you are a christian, gun toting republican, or you are a commie heathen scumbag, that kind of stuff. Really what we are doing is taking everything and turning it into a black or white argument, when really almost all issues are grey. All this has been accomplishing for us is to completely polarize everything to the point where progress is not possible and decay becomes the norm.
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This is nothing new, that kind of viewpoint has been around since the beginning of time.

 
kenc said:
QFT. I think we as a society now tend to turn any issue into an "us against them" fight. Either you are a christian, gun toting republican, or you are a commie heathen scumbag, that kind of stuff. Really what we are doing is taking everything and turning it into a black or white argument, when really almost all issues are grey. All this has been accomplishing for us is to completely polarize everything to the point where progress is not possible and decay becomes the norm.
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People get addicted to the morally superior feeling they get when they look at things as good vs. evil, rather than sensible vs. sensible.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
It depends on the topic. If you're debating the merits of different philosophies, then yes, it is debatable because that's subjective. If you are debating the effectiveness of education policies, then it's usually not debatable because effectiveness is usually verifiable through research and thus, objective.

The problem is that people get those two situations mixed up. People treat subjective topics as objective and treat objective topics as subjective. This is where people calling either other delusional, ignorant and other things tends to come in.
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Eh, not really. Any published research is still open for debate from methodology to interpretation made by the authors or interpretation by the person using said evidence in a debate. If ones debate opponent has legitimate criticisms of the research or how the research is being used to make a certain point then it is not enough to say its "undebatable" because its published.

Moreover, things aren't "true" in science, they're merely likely and that difference is more and more stark as you move away from something like experimental physics to social sciences.
 
The ridicule has little to do with the issues, and everything to do with the arguments that one presents.

Often, people present arguments for their views which are worthy of ridicule, even if the issue itself remains debatable.

Example: Whether or not guns should be banned could be considered a "debatable" issue, but if someone's argument in that debate is "Guns are bad, mmmkay" or "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" their argument deserves scorn and ridicule.
 
Tucker Case said:
The ridicule has little to do with the issues, and everything to do with the arguments that one presents.

Often, people present arguments for their views which are worthy of ridicule, even if the issue itself remains debatable.
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The failure to acknowledge that the issue is debatable, is what causes people to make ridiculous arguments. They think that they can prove they are right.
 
mpg said:
The failure to acknowledge that the issue is debatable, is what causes people to make ridiculous arguments. They think that they can prove they are right.
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Anything is "debatable", even facts, when one bases their opinions on the absurd.
 
Tucker Case said:
Anything is "debatable", even facts, when one bases their opinions on the absurd.
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Earlier in the thread, someone said that the people who think opinions are not debatable, are the same people who want to debate the facts.
 
Very few issues are not debatable simply because no one has the breath and depth of knowledge of all or rarely of any particular issue to actually make concrete decisions based totally upon proven facts and historical models showing likely results.

Debate itself is a adversarial process that hopefully allows an audience to come to a decision from facts/opinions offered by the debaters.
 
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