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Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

~Dr.Who~ said:
your societal programming just kicked in i see..you don;t understand the meaning of normal Homos, so you interject with your prejudice by trolling the post.

your seething against hereto sexuals is obvious.
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Actually, my programming kicks in because of the derogatory words you choose to use, which simply screams of your bigotry and intolerance. And trust me, I am not "trolling" at all, unless you consider somebody that objects to offensive slurs a "troll".

And your laughable and feeble attack against me is hereby noted.
 
Oozlefinch said:
Actually, my programming kicks in because of the derogatory words you choose to use, which simply screams of your bigotry and intolerance. And trust me, I am not "trolling" at all, unless you consider somebody that objects to offensive slurs a "troll".

And your laughable and feeble attack against me is hereby noted.
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well im not going to get into a pissing match but you do seem to have something against normal sexual behaviour and think Homos are ok....
i'm not against Homos if they are trannies...in fact trannies can be more beautiful than real women...at least trannies have a semblance of normality
 
~Dr.Who~ said:
well im not going to get into a pissing match but you do seem to have something against normal sexual behaviour and think Homos are ok....
i'm not against Homos if they are trannies...in fact trannies can be more beautiful than real women...at least trannies have a semblance of normality
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Once again, all you can do is attack and offend, and have no idea who I am.

Be gone with you troll.
 
Oozlefinch said:
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Once again, all you can do is attack and offend, and have no idea who I am.

Be gone with you troll.
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just cause my views are different than yours you call me a troll...

your the type of people who bash Homos for being faggy...

i have had sex with trannies...they give way better head than women and they know how to use their anus in anal sex....ok so i refuse to let their penis in the agenda at all...

does that make me a homophobe.
i just not built that way to allow them to have their penis invovled in sex with me would be a turn off ...big time...everything else is better than women
 
The news on the girls in Ohio being chained to the ceiling for ten years and keeping them in bondage as sexual slaves. I'm sorry, those SOBs need to die and stop contaminating the air the rest of us have tho breathe. The one argument I can accept however is they might be dead if they knew they would get the death penalty so why keep them alive to testify against you one day.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
So if a woman is jogging down the street and a rapist drags her into the bushes, holds a knife to her throat and rapes her you would equate that to a woman that goes into a dorm room with a bunch of guys and takes drugs and drinks until she passes out? Both those women are just the same?
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Why don't you tell us all the difference in your opinion? Because the latter rape is easier to pull off? The easier it is to rape a woman the less serious it is? I suppose then you'd say the least serious is against little children as they are the easiest of all. Maybe severely mental diabled women are less serious?
 
ChrisL said:
Okay, but that still doesn't justify the state-sponsored murder, or more accurately tax-payer sponsored.
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Government is a societies' means of applied force. I do not trust government with very much and while I would not eliminate the death penalty I believe that a fully informed jury can be trusted to apply the death penalty when appropriate. Also by definition if there is legal sanction for killing someone it is not considered murder.
 
Smeagol said:
The news on the girls in Ohio being chained to the ceiling for ten years and keeping them in bondage as sexual slaves. I'm sorry, those SOBs need to die and stop contaminating the air the rest of us have tho breathe. The one argument I can accept however is they might be dead if they knew they would get the death penalty so why keep them alive to testify against you one day.
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Imprison them for at least 3 decades would be appropriate for the false imprisonment and life for the forced co-habitation. The captives were forced into a marriage relationship and I do not know if that can be considered rape in this case. I wonder what sort of background the accused have to do such a thing (they are brothers).
 
Shadow Serious said:
Imprison them for at least 3 decades would be appropriate for the false imprisonment and life for the forced co-habitation. The captives were forced into a marriage relationship and I do not know if that can be considered rape in this case. I wonder what sort of background the accused have to do such a thing (they are brothers).
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I know, the emotional outrage of what these ladies went through is a big part of it. Good question. I wonder now about their own upbringing, which is still no excuse but understanding root causes and motivations is a good thing in terms of figuring out the psychological issues that can lead to crimes like this.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I would say putting them in jail for life is worse.

Imagine, knowing you didn't do the crime everyone thinks you did?
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It's worse to live - with a chance to prove your innocence and become free?

Every year hundreds are released from death-row purely because they were able, in some fashion, to prove their innocence. . .there's no greater injustice than to deny them that chance.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
It's worse to live - with a chance to prove your innocence and become free?

Every year hundreds are released from death-row purely because they were able, in some fashion, to prove their innocence. . .there's no greater injustice than to deny them that chance.
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It is not that they are released, and they do not "prove their innocence". However, if I am wrong I would absolutely love to see a verifyable reference to this.

I would say at most that maybe a dozen or so get their sentences reduced.

But I would readuly admit I am wrong here, if you can give me a reference.
 
Shadow Serious said:
Government is a societies' means of applied force. I do not trust government with very much and while I would not eliminate the death penalty I believe that a fully informed jury can be trusted to apply the death penalty when appropriate. Also by definition if there is legal sanction for killing someone it is not considered murder.
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Are you serious? Do you remember the Casey Anthony trial? How about the OJ Simpson trial? Good God, yes juries are always trust-worthy and make appropriate decisions. :roll:
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Thank you.

Death row is a strange fish - it takes so much time, money and effort to reach the point of execution - that most on death row never will be executed.
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No problem Auntie.

Yup, many will most likely die of natural causes first. :shrug:
 
TurtleDude said:
anytime you make a crime less than murder a death penalty offense, you give the perpetrator absolutely no reason NOT to kill his victim
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How about if you differentiate the two death penalties by the crime less than murder getting quick and painless versus the murderer being killed in a way that they wish you'd hurry up?
 
Mathematician said:
How about if you differentiate the two death penalties by the crime less than murder getting quick and painless versus the murderer being killed in a way that they wish you'd hurry up?
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an interesting thought

back in the old days where hanging victims were strung up, the family would bribe the hangman to jump on the dangling victim to break his neck or in the case of "drawing and quartering, hanging the victim until dead so the evisceration and castration would be on a corpse

interesting to think about but its not realistic
 
TurtleDude said:
an interesting thought

back in the old days where hanging victims were strung up, the family would bribe the hangman to jump on the dangling victim to break his neck or in the case of "drawing and quartering, hanging the victim until dead so the evisceration and castration would be on a corpse

interesting to think about but its not realistic
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It is incredibly disturbing that your objection is "not realistic" rather than "****ing barbaric."
 
TurtleDude said:
an interesting thought

back in the old days where hanging victims were strung up, the family would bribe the hangman to jump on the dangling victim to break his neck or in the case of "drawing and quartering, hanging the victim until dead so the evisceration and castration would be on a corpse

interesting to think about but its not realistic
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Further back, in older days, there were no prisons. Once a month or whatever the town would gather in the square to watch thieves be hung and pickpockets would be working the crowd. There may be reasons for the death penalty but it's never deterred anything.
 
ChrisL said:
I believe I already provided a link to that information. Here's a different link.

Innocence and the Death Penalty | Death Penalty Information Center
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Wow, 9 for 2009, 1 for 2010, 1 for 2011, 3 for 2012.

What happened to the "hundreds" that was claimed?

Aunt Spiker said:
Thank you.

Death row is a strange fish - it takes so much time, money and effort to reach the point of execution - that most on death row never will be executed.
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I do not know why you are thanking her, she only proved that you have so horribly inflated your numbers that it is absolutely laughable.

You claimed "hundreds every year", and we are not even seeing "dozens".

As I say, give me facts and accurate information. Give me hyperinflated lies that are made up off of the top of your head and are unable to validate your claims, and I pretty much flush all such claims.

You claim "hundreds each year", yet you applaud a source that provides a grand total of 142 over a period of 40 years. By your initial claim, I would expect that number to be in the range of 8000+. Not 142.
 
Deuce said:
It is incredibly disturbing that your objection is "not realistic" rather than "****ing barbaric."
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Maybe you don't have the stomach for the job. No worries. I'd be happy to do the slicing and dicing of the bad boys if you'll just sign my sheet saying I did some community service. :2razz:
 
Deuce said:
It is incredibly disturbing that your objection is "not realistic" rather than "****ing barbaric."
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You apparently wanted to bash me so you merely assumed that. I was responding to the other person's post, rather than giving a complete response to every possible objection. So your rant is duly dismissed as hackery
 
Grand Mal said:
Further back, in older days, there were no prisons. Once a month or whatever the town would gather in the square to watch thieves be hung and pickpockets would be working the crowd. There may be reasons for the death penalty but it's never deterred anything.
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Not others, but those who have been given life in prison have KILLED again. No one ever executed committed another crime subsequent to his execution
 
Oozlefinch said:
Wow, 9 for 2009, 1 for 2010, 1 for 2011, 3 for 2012.

What happened to the "hundreds" that was claimed?



I do not know why you are thanking her, she only proved that you have so horribly inflated your numbers that it is absolutely laughable.

You claimed "hundreds every year", and we are not even seeing "dozens".

As I say, give me facts and accurate information. Give me hyperinflated lies that are made up off of the top of your head and are unable to validate your claims, and I pretty much flush all such claims.

You claim "hundreds each year", yet you applaud a source that provides a grand total of 142 over a period of 40 years. By your initial claim, I would expect that number to be in the range of 8000+. Not 142.
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You should do some research into this. The only reason why more people are not exonerated is because the Innocence Project is fully made of up volunteers. They get NO government funding. This is a completely voluntary thing that some professionals, such as lawyers, ex-judges, etc., do because they KNOW how whacked the justice system is, and they KNOW that innocent people are convicted of crimes they didn't commit.

Only a monkey wouldn't realize this simple fact.

Yeah!!! So let's KILL EM ALL! :roll:



Sorry, couldn't resist. :2razz:
 
Peter King said:
Yes, the death penalty has had a dramatic effect on capital crimes like murder :roll:
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The death penalty for murder is used in only the most heinous instances and even the it takes 20 years to implement. By the time someone is insane enough to tie a family up, torture them for days and then set the house on fire to burn them alive no penalty will dissuade them.
 
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