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Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

I am against the death penalty in general and would not endorse it here.



Along the same line as the debate on whether or not a straight, gay or lesbian is pre wired to enjoy their preferred orientation, the pedophile is also pre-wired.

They are are an obvious danger to our children, much more so than any other stylish defined danger of today like a soft drink, and need to be eliminated.

What are the great and dynamic contributions to society by pedophiles? What justifies their existence within society? Why pay a life time of room and board to assure they eventually get released to create more mischief?
 
An eye for an eye would reduce the extreme crime rates we have now and return the nation to a society where people respect one another.

Make it more like a head for an eye. With eye for an eye, the wrongdoer is breaking even with their victim. Cost/benefit analysis becomes trivialized when the punishment is extreme.
 
Make it more like a head for an eye. With eye for an eye, the wrongdoer is breaking even with their victim. Cost/benefit analysis becomes trivialized when the punishment is extreme.

Go back to hanging horse thieves, eh?;)
 
I absolutely do not support the death penalty for anything short of premeditated murder, which has been proven beyond any trace of doubt. Pedophiles and child rapists are disgusting, but if they don't kill the child, they do not deserve the death penalty. That being said, if it was me, and my child or grandchild, and I caught him in the act, I would shoot on sight. As a juror, though, and an objective, reasonable, non-involved party to the crime, I can't support the death penalty, because justice implies equal measure.


We live in a society. The society is comprised of the majority that just slogs along and gets by on a daily basis and hopes that the cop doesn't give them a ticket and the guy who looks at their tax form doesn't do an audit and the boss doesn't yell at them.

Within that majority are many that are a bit off center on the bell curve and when we near the narrow edges, we find the evil doers.

Among those are the pedophiles. They prey on the weak and the naive and twist the mind, spirit and hearts of the unknowing due only to the way they are pre-wired to behave.

Pedophilia is not a learned behavior any more than being straight, gay or lesbian is a learned behavior. It is obviously NOT conducted between consenting adults. These people are monstrous in their desires and in their actions. Their actions need to be stopped and the best way to assure that they are stopped and do not repeat is to eliminate them from society.
 
Pedophiles don't get better and they have devastated a child's life not to mention devastating the entire family. Rapist have violated a womans rights in the most despicable fashion possible and scarred her for life. The impact of these crimes on children, their parents and women are so grievous that IMO the perpetrates should get the death penalty. Not only would this be justice but the incidents of rape and child molesting-rape would plummet.

No point in supporting them with three hots and a cot and free medical for their whole lives, a bullet is much much less expensive. So I agree. I am not a wimpy 'no death penalty' type, which there are far too many of in this country.
 
and you just condemn almost every victim of rape to death since the rapist has absolutely no reason to keep his victim(s) alive

I have heard that all my life and you are far from the first to say it here. There is a huge difference between rape and murder and I don't believe 99% of rapist are murderers. If a rapist knows he will get the death penalty for rape and murders his victim to cover up the crime he was likely intending to kill her anyway. Most potential rapist knowing they would be put to death if they raped would likely not commit the rape if they had to cross the line of murder in order to avoid being caught. This is all just my opinion of course and I have no stats to back it up because as far as I know no country has ever tried this type of law. This may get me in trouble but there is an ancient urge in men to rape. At one time a man saw a woman that aroused him and he did what came natural whether she was willing or not just like some animals do. Murder on the other hand seems to be something man as a rule shy's away from and crosses a line most people instinctively don't want to cross.
 
Pedophilia is not a learned behavior any more than being straight, gay or lesbian is a learned behavior. It is obviously NOT conducted between consenting adults. These people are monstrous in their desires and in their actions. Their actions need to be stopped and the best way to assure that they are stopped and do not repeat is to eliminate them from society.

I realize those things, however killing someone who has not killed, is not justice. Justice implies a balancing of the scales, and society killing them would be unjust. As I said earlier, if it were me walking in on someone molesting my own child or grandchild, I'd shoot them without hesitation, but as a societal policy and action, I could not support it.
 
Should they also receive a cash reward? Or just rewarded with never have to work another day in their life and be entirely provided for - for free - in everyway - for the rest of their lives?

....So jail is a reward? All the people we have in prison are living the High Life, huh? Or was this an incredibly stupid statement? Because it seems like it's likely the latter.
 
I realize those things, however killing someone who has not killed, is not justice.

The damage done to a child is often quite worse than death, as they have to deal with it their whole lives. Kill the sick bastards that do it, one shot, one kill, no other children harmed by them.
 
Along the same line as the debate on whether or not a straight, gay or lesbian is pre wired to enjoy their preferred orientation, the pedophile is also pre-wired.

They are are an obvious danger to our children, much more so than any other stylish defined danger of today like a soft drink, and need to be eliminated.

What are the great and dynamic contributions to society by pedophiles? What justifies their existence within society? Why pay a life time of room and board to assure they eventually get released to create more mischief?

Thanks Lovejoy, but even in all the "Won't someone PLEASE think of the children" hysteria going on here, we still must think about the institutions and penalties we call into action and the consequences for having done so.

Paying a lifetime of room and board is cheaper than killing them, if you can prove that they need to be in jail for life then there you go. Already a punishment on the books which will take these people off the streets for good without calling on a system that innately consumes lives, where innocents can be killed, which costs way more money, and has at best dubious moral implications.
 
The damage done to a child is often quite worse than death, as they have to deal with it their whole lives. Kill the sick bastards that do it, one shot, one kill, no other children harmed by them.

Man, the Catholic Church would be out of priests.
 
The damage done to a child is often quite worse than death, as they have to deal with it their whole lives. Kill the sick bastards that do it, one shot, one kill, no other children harmed by them.

If it met the standards of what justice actually is, I could go with it, but it doesn't.
 
If you say so.

You feel that someone does not deserve to live? Fine. Challenge him. Swords out, a duel, as it was supposed to be for some 99% of human history! No? Hiding behind the broad back of the dumb, clumsy State golem is more to your liking?

Feels good, to risk nothing and be all righteous about it, eh?
Duels are for equals. Capitol ofenders are beneath me.
 
I truly believe that physical or chemical castration is the way to go.

No future possiblity (via rape or consensual) of repeat acts (though one can rape by other means, agreed) nor personal pleasure for themselves.

Let them live with that.
 
I truly believe that physical or chemical castration is the way to go.

No future possiblity (via rape or consensual) of repeat acts (though one can rape by other means, agreed) nor personal pleasure for themselves.

Let them live with that.

This actually strikes me as being the best course of action as well. Rape is a crime which has traditionally carried the penalty of castration, and there are methods available today which would make actual surgical mutilation unnecessary.

Honestly, what possible reason is there not to go for this option? It helps to reduce the risk of repeat offenses, and, if society is truly unwilling to accept the death penalty, it massively cuts down on the costs incurred by lengthy prison stays.

It would obviously have to be ensured that accused rapists and pedophiles were given fair and impartial representation before being sentenced, and that the severity of the offense actually warranted such an extreme measure, but other than that, I see no problem with such an approach.
 
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I truly believe that physical or chemical castration is the way to go.

No future possiblity (via rape or consensual) of repeat acts (though one can rape by other means, agreed) nor personal pleasure for themselves.

Let them live with that.

Wow....it's just that, it's not the dark ages anymore. I think the times for dungeons and torture and maiming inmates is perchance over.
 
Believe it or not, I'm not here to impress you.

The idea is only rarely expressed in such strong or overt terms, but the belief that rape (in its most common and ordinary form) is an existential horror of such magnitude that it is almost impossible to recover from and must (almost necessarily) ruin the victim's life is always scratching the surface of our culture's collective thinking. Often it bubbles over in some expression or another. It compares unfavorably to that trend in India where women become suicidal because they were seen naked.

At this point in human history we ought to have more pragmatic attitudes about sex and how it relates to a person's self-respect. Assuming that we don't want to revive indentured servitude or make fines or public shaming a larger part of our justice system, the multiple-year terms of imprisonment is about where the punishment needs to be.

I agree that rape shouldn't completely destroy a woman's life. But it is still a disgusting crime, for which I don't have much sympathy towards the offenders.
 
Wow....it's just that, it's not the dark ages anymore. I think the times for dungeons and torture and maiming inmates is perchance over.

And locking them in a giant institutionalized man-rape dungeon at tax payers' expense for the rest of their natural lives is any better?

Please lop my head off instead. I'm begging you! :lol:
 
Wow....it's just that, it's not the dark ages anymore. I think the times for dungeons and torture and maiming inmates is perchance over.

Oh right, I forgot that coddling rapists is the new way to go.
 
I truly believe that physical or chemical castration is the way to go.

No future possiblity (via rape or consensual) of repeat acts (though one can rape by other means, agreed) nor personal pleasure for themselves.

Let them live with that.

Agreed.
 
Oh right, I forgot that coddling rapists is the new way to go.

Coddling rapists? Are you daft? Not using the government to maim people is not codding. Jesus, the hysterics are getting out of hand.
 
And locking them in a giant institutionalized man-rape dungeon at tax payers' expense for the rest of their natural lives is any better?

It's still punishment. There is a lot wrong with our prison system, much of which is a result of overcrowding. We can address those problems as well. But we cannot use the government to maim inmates anymore. That part is over.

Please lop my head off instead. I'm begging you! :lol:

Or cut your junk off?
 
Wow....it's just that, it's not the dark ages anymore. I think the times for dungeons and torture and maiming inmates is perchance over.

Perhaps the word chemical escaped your notice?

For people that commit these acts, torture is still a viable word for them, since they choose to commit the acts that is truly torture for it's victims.
 
Perhaps the word chemical escaped your notice?

For people that commit these acts, torture is still a viable word for them, since they choose to commit the acts that is truly torture for it's victims.

You said physical as well, and the government can't do either.
 
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