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What do you define as discrimination

What do you define as discrimination

  • Only physical acts of hatred. All else falls under free speech.

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Only directed and purposeful discrimination against a group. Adverse impact is allowed

    Votes: 6 46.2%
  • Unintentional adverse impact is not okay.

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Any vocal or active support for policy that would be beneficial to a "dominant" group.

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Not checking yo privilege!

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Anything goes.

    Votes: 1 7.7%

  • Total voters
    13
Probably where you and I would disagree is where does the "public/private" line get drawn. I am pretty much with Quik as far as the legality of it is concerned. A business should be considered a private holding and as such allowed to discriminate should it choose, both in hiring and with whom it does business with. That does not mean that I fell that any business that engages in such practices is in the right. Only the government should not be allowed to discriminate on ANY basis except individual action. The only exception to that is age where the line needs to be drawn between "child" and adult.

yes we disagree there for sure, i would never agree to that ever. I would never support a PUBLIC business not hiring/severing somebody solely based on race, gender, sexuality religion etc etc.

but also be clear, business that are CAUGHT doing this with FACTUAL proof are beyond freaking morons. Theres a millions reasons a person could make up not to hire you, its typically the people that flat out say to somebody face im not hiring no mexicans (mean while the guy is Brazilian "latino" lol) or something like that. I do view that as criminal and theres no place for that in america.

Now with that being said, and this is not legally defined this is just my opinion if you are a private photographer or fix radiators in your garage at your home etc you can do business with who ever you like. You got some building on a street corner, name in the yellow pages and theres a big sign that lists your hours and another sign that says open? to bad, you are public and you dont get to refuse to sell new tires to the old german lady simply because you are jewish and are racist. If you cant play by public rules dont have a public business.

Again thanks for your answers it did clear it up.
 
yes we disagree there for sure, i would never agree to that ever. I would never support a PUBLIC business not hiring/severing somebody solely based on race, gender, sexuality religion etc etc.

but also be clear, business that are CAUGHT doing this with FACTUAL proof are beyond freaking morons. Theres a millions reasons a person could make up not to hire you, its typically the people that flat out say to somebody face im not hiring no mexicans (mean while the guy is Brazilian "latino" lol) or something like that. I do view that as criminal and theres no place for that in america.

Now with that being said, and this is not legally defined this is just my opinion if you are a private photographer or fix radiators in your garage at your home etc you can do business with who ever you like. You got some building on a street corner, name in the yellow pages and theres a big sign that lists your hours and another sign that says open? to bad, you are public and you dont get to refuse to sell new tires to the old german lady simply because you are jewish and are racist. If you cant play by public rules dont have a public business.

Again thanks for your answers it did clear it up.

Let me start by agreeing with your second paragraph. They would indeed have to be morons to get caught. However, you and I have differing opinions on whether or not a business should be considered public or private. As I see is, you can call a city park public as opposed to government. But in the end that is still a subset of government. By calling it public that means that is is open to all with out restrictions, save maybe operating times. But a private business is just that, private and should be treated the same as all other private property. Now I might accept an argument that if the business posts a sign, "Open to the Public" then it is advertising itself as no restrictions, and any discrimination is a basis for calling false advertising.

A business is a business. Either that private photographer cannot discriminate on the basis of whatever, or your so-called "public" businesses can. I don't see how one is different than the other.
 
When my father made a restraining order towards my stepmother ( domestic violence ) the cop thought he was the one receiving the restraining order . Discrimination. women are and can be abusive physically and emotionally that is stereotyping males .
 
Let me start by agreeing with your second paragraph. They would indeed have to be morons to get caught. However, you and I have differing opinions on whether or not a business should be considered public or private. As I see is, you can call a city park public as opposed to government. But in the end that is still a subset of government. By calling it public that means that is is open to all with out restrictions, save maybe operating times. But a private business is just that, private and should be treated the same as all other private property. Now I might accept an argument that if the business posts a sign, "Open to the Public" then it is advertising itself as no restrictions, and any discrimination is a basis for calling false advertising.

A business is a business. Either that private photographer cannot discriminate on the basis of whatever, or your so-called "public" businesses can. I don't see how one is different than the other.

I agree legally it would be tough to define but i think it need done. We all have to play by the same rules and i dont think that type of activity has any place in america.

I do fully admit i wouldnt know how to define which is which. To me it pretty much comes down to your operating place. Out of your home or on your property that is also your home, fine. Store with signs and lights and a open sign, to bad.

I guess why i consider them different is just like you said. On the corner with signs and hours of operation etc i have no reason not to walk in there because your whole layout invites the public in. Same thing between the difference of home and store. If i just walk into you home i could get shot and killed and maybe nothing would happen. You shoot me for just walking into your BUSINESS you have a lot of explaining to do and are probably going to jail for ever lol

The point is these differences already exist in ways so i think thats where to start.

I could just never support people discriminating in that fashion with a public business. If you are that mentally deranged and or ignorant simply dont open a public business why would you.
 
Yeah, usually minorities. That needs to change. Equality means equality for all, not just for the politically correct.

No one has the stones to speak out about it though - or, they don't want to tarnish their public image.
 
Pretty straight forward. I hear people call X racist/sexist/[insert term here]ist all the time and I want to know how you define it in your mind. What defines someone as being discriminatory a particular group? Discuss.
Treating a group or a member of a group differently without proper cause.
 
No one has the stones to speak out about it though - or, they don't want to tarnish their public image.

I certainly have the stones and I speak out against it all the time.
 
I certainly have the stones and I speak out against it all the time.

I do too. What I think the world needs is a person who is in the national spotlight, someone who can be seen by all via the media or other sources, to speak out about it. I wonder what the backlash would be...
 
I do too. What I think the world needs is a person who is in the national spotlight, someone who can be seen by all via the media or other sources, to speak out about it. I wonder what the backlash would be...

Lots of people have done it, it hasn't changed a thing. Bill Cosby was quite critical of it, people ignored him or called him and Uncle Tom.
 
And the liberals will probably let people screw the system through claims of ignorance, that's just the kind of people liberals are.
Thanks for explaining that I'm not a liberal. We are getting ready to sell a home we expect to get about 170k for that we bought for 92k short sale 11 months ago. And we are not arguing for any saving of the people that bought it or the banks that wrote them mortgages. But we voted for Obama etc. Gee, then what are we?
 
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So if members of a certain religion become the majority in a division of a corporation and promote, protect, etc., people of their religion over others that are not members of their religion is that discrimination?
 
So if members of a certain religion become the majority in a division of a corporation and promote, protect, etc., people of their religion over others that are not members of their religion is that discrimination?

Damn straight it is.
 
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