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Dividing the United States

I have never seen a President divide the Country more than

  • Obama

    Votes: 24 50.0%
  • Bush (W)

    Votes: 21 43.8%
  • Clinton

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • Bush

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Reagan

    Votes: 2 4.2%
  • Carter

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    48
a single person can not divide a country.

silly poll.
 
In my lifetime, I have never seen a President try to divided a country more than Obama. He campaigned on being the great uniter and ends up being just the opposite. The examples are too numerous to list.

I'd say congress does a far superior job at dividing the nation than any president.
 
I've pretty much stated it, drop the theory and get out of the way.

All you've provided is vague rhetoric and zero ideas. If I used the same argument with the politician of your liking you'd laugh me out of this forum (and rightfully so). But if all you can provide is fuzzy feelings and zero specifics then it reveals you don't understand very clearly yourself what you don't like about Obama's leadership.
 
All you've provided is vague rhetoric and zero ideas. If I used the same argument with the politician of your liking you'd laugh me out of this forum (and rightfully so). But if all you can provide is fuzzy feelings and zero specifics then it reveals you don't understand very clearly yourself what you don't like about Obama's leadership.
The people of this country are very good at running businesses, the government is overregulating just about everything from labor to safety to health insurance and it's choking the economy to death, that's why I said they just need to get out of the way.
 
To be honest, lately I've been feeling like it was 1978. Misery index, nuclear whatnot, foreign threats, and no leadership...

If we had double digit inflation and double digit interest rates, it would be just like Jimmy Carter. Carter made me and my family the poorest we had ever been because we owed lots of money at 20%+ interest. I have managed to save some money since so if we had it now, I am not sure I would complain as much
 
The people of this country are very good at running businesses, the government is overregulating just about everything from labor to safety to health insurance and it's choking the economy to death, that's why I said they just need to get out of the way.

More vague rhetoric. You're clearly confused.
 
More vague rhetoric. You're clearly confused.
What part is eluding you? The government in all branches is choking off productivity and the economic capabilities of the nation, there's nothing vague about it.
 
What part is eluding you? The government in all branches is choking off productivity and the economic capabilities of the nation, there's nothing vague about it.

Anybody could have typed the above. All you've heard is rhetoric from am radio, apparently, and rhetoric is all you can reproduce here.

I'm really starting to think you don't understand what is meant by "specific." "Specific" isn't "stop being president" or "get out of the way." A gnat could provide that insight. And please put a little more thought into your response before you smash the "submit reply" icon and come back with the painfully predictable "if a gnat could get it, what's Obama's excuse" or some similar asshattery.

Aren't you even just a little embarrassed that it's page six and not one person can provide a specific alternative leadership decision that Obama could have made? If the roles were reversed and Bush were being discussed I'd be cringing.
 
If we had double digit inflation and double digit interest rates, it would be just like Jimmy Carter. Carter made me and my family the poorest we had ever been because we owed lots of money at 20%+ interest. I have managed to save some money since so if we had it now, I am not sure I would complain as much


Whatever the official inflation rate is, it doesnt take a lot of shopping to see prices have gone up 10-30% on most items over the past 5-8 years.
 
Anybody could have typed the above. All you've heard is rhetoric from am radio, apparently, and rhetoric is all you can reproduce here.

I'm really starting to think you don't understand what is meant by "specific." "Specific" isn't "stop being president" or "get out of the way." A gnat could provide that insight. And please put a little more thought into your response before you smash the "submit reply" icon and come back with the painfully predictable "if a gnat could get it, what's Obama's excuse" or some similar asshattery.

Aren't you even just a little embarrassed that it's page six and not one person can provide a specific alternative leadership decision that Obama could have made? If the roles were reversed and Bush were being discussed I'd be cringing.
Dude, it's obvious. Stop with the damn "talk radio" schtick, it's ECON 101, it's any honest MBA program, it's in the newspapers.
 
Dude, it's obvious. Stop with the damn "talk radio" schtick, it's ECON 101, it's any honest MBA program, it's in the newspapers.

Forget it. You really don't understand what "specific" means.

When you're argument boils down to "it's obvious" it's time to step back and rethink your position, because if it were "obvious" you'd be able to clarify it.
 
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Whatever the official inflation rate is, it doesnt take a lot of shopping to see prices have gone up 10-30% on most items over the past 5-8 years.



Alot of that is tied to transportation/fuel rates, some of it is the cost of Obamacare and the hit profit margins are taking from that and depending on industry some EPA regs will cause that as well.
 
Alot of that is tied to transportation/fuel rates, some of it is the cost of Obamacare and the hit profit margins are taking from that and depending on industry some EPA regs will cause that as well.


Ends up having the same effect though, don't it? Your money doesn't go as far.
 
Never mind, you're hopeless.
Don't condescend to me, you want to know about specific **** ups ask, but if you think that we are in an economically conducive period you are kidding yourself. If you think all these theories that the president keeps on life support from last century which have a 100% failure rate, such as his labor econ theories, the use of the Keynsian model, fiat currency, among others are worth fighting for then I don't know what to tell YOU.
 
Ends up having the same effect though, don't it? Your money doesn't go as far.

yeah, just have to take advantage of other things that have presented themselves with this administration, for instance:

We owned 2 rental properties before Obama, we now own 12. Foreclosures, more people renting instead of buying has made this a lucrative rental market.
 
Don't condescend to me, you want to know about specific **** ups ask, but if you think that we are in an economically conducive period you are kidding yourself. If you think all these theories that the president keeps on life support from last century which have a 100% failure rate, such as his labor econ theories, the use of the Keynsian model, fiat currency, among others are worth fighting for then I don't know what to tell YOU.

Okay, the old stuff isn't working. Let's try something else.

You, Lamidrighter, have just been elected president. It is your first day in office, and hoo boy, is our country a mess. No confidence in the market, blue collar and white collar jobs are being sent en masse to other countries, North Korea is belligerent, China overtaking us in the world market, our infrastructure is deteriorating and our educational system is in shambles.

Your first, second and third acts as president are.....

....aaaaand go.
 
yeah, just have to take advantage of other things that have presented themselves with this administration, for instance:

We owned 2 rental properties before Obama, we now own 12. Foreclosures, more people renting instead of buying has made this a lucrative rental market.
But then you have the swing effect of real estate jobs dissipating, then you still have to flip properties so the values have to stabilize, and of course the ripple effects of unemployment change every single market.
 
Okay, the old stuff isn't working. Let's try something else.

You, Lamidrighter, have just been elected president. It is your first day in office, and hoo boy, is our country a mess. No confidence in the market, blue collar and white collar jobs are being sent en masse to other countries, North Korea is belligerent, China overtaking us in the world market, our infrastructure is deteriorating and our educational system is in shambles.

Your first, second and third acts as president are.....

....aaaaand go.
First act is to repeal the NLRB, EPA loses all regulatory power to be deferred back to congress, EPA may only enforce through warrant. Second act, remand health and safety issues to the individual states. Third act, engage in tax reform debate. Fourth act is a complete audit of medical, tort, and insurance law in the U.S. with the goal of streamlining.

What else ya got?
 
But then you have the swing effect of real estate jobs dissipating, then you still have to flip properties so the values have to stabilize, and of course the ripple effects of unemployment change every single market.

We are lucky to have fairly low unemployment and a college in town, so renters are plentiful
 
First act is to repeal the NLRB, EPA loses all regulatory power to be deferred back to congress, EPA may only enforce through warrant. Second act, remand health and safety issues to the individual states. Third act, engage in tax reform debate. Fourth act is a complete audit of medical, tort, and insurance law in the U.S. with the goal of streamlining.

What else ya got?

Jesus H Mother of Christ, that was all I was asking for. Obviously I don't actually agree with you, but at least you finally answered.

How, out of curiosity, do you suppose the above will help with our educational system, bring jobs back, take back out lead over China and neutralize the belligerence from North Korea?
 
Jesus H Mother of Christ, that was all I was asking for. Obviously I don't actually agree with you, but at least you finally answered.
You asked me what I thought the problem was. Now, if you don't see where those bodies are getting in the way of economics then I don't know what to tell you. You literally cannot get away from government interference and that stops competition, it keeps startups from getting traction, it stops productivity. All I did was expand what I was talking about.
 
We are lucky to have fairly low unemployment and a college in town, so renters are plentiful
Gotcha, I misunderstood and thought you were flipping. Rental properties are always great if you can stay ahead of taxes and maintenance.
 
This is very true. I do not know if these luncheons or what ever will work, it may be a beginning or it may not. It may be that Obama is serious, then again it may be just for publicity to show independents he is trying to reach across the aisle. Yep, for sure, time will tell.

That's exactly what it is all about.....I would recommend checking out Guy Benson, Hugh Hewitt, Michael Medved, and Dennis Prager all have been up on this issue of Obama and his alleged intentions.
 
All you've provided is vague rhetoric and zero ideas. If I used the same argument with the politician of your liking you'd laugh me out of this forum (and rightfully so). But if all you can provide is fuzzy feelings and zero specifics then it reveals you don't understand very clearly yourself what you don't like about Obama's leadership.

Obama is the most racially-divisive U.S. president in modern history.....

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On Thursday, President Barack Obama signed an executive order creating the White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans which will be implemented by the Department of Education.

An excerpt from the order places a goal on "increasing college access and success for African American students and providing support to help ensure that a greater percentage of African Americans complete college and contribute to the goal of having America again lead the world in the proportion of adults who are college graduates by 2020, in part through strategies to strengthen the capacity of institutions of higher education that serve large numbers of African American students, including community colleges, HBCUs, Predominantly Black Institutions (PBIs), and other institutions," (Sec. 2, subsec. VII).

Of course, Obama was not talking about "every child," but only black children.

Of course, there exists in this country a tremendous double-standard in regards to who is given a pass to preach and practice racism. However, we cannot be intimidated by left-wing Congressmen, nor by an illegitimate press which works for them. We must confront their dishonest claims with the truth.

This man who has come out of nowhere and is now the President of the United States appears to be a racist, and he must be identified as such.

Can you imagine the furor that would erupt over a 'White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for White Americans?'.....snip~

Obama is the most racially-divisive U.S. president in modern history - Virginia Beach Conservative | Examiner.com

Here was one Specific despite the Gallup material I put up.....did you still need more material as to Obama being the Most Divisive President in modern Day History.
 
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