• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

What would you expect a woman to do?

What would you expect a woman to do in this situation?

  • Get a description, stay calm, dont make sudden movements, call the cops later..

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • Throw herself at the gunman and fight for her loved ones, because not doing so would be cowardice.

    Votes: 3 13.0%

  • Other, explain.

    Votes: 19 82.6%
  • Total voters
    23
Capster78 said:
Unfortunately, we do need them to fight for us. Men are generally subborn but are genetically greatly influence by women. Just as women need help physically in some areas, men also need some help from women.
Click to expand...

I have never been much into being influenced by other people. I generally don't accept advice and I generally don't take kindly to people being up my ass about something that I should be doing, but I'm not. I'm pretty well versed on what I should be doing and telling me about it just comes off as annoying. Look, I damn well know when something is wrong with me and if I'm ignoring it consider it my final choice. I actually do have things wrong with me right now and without going into detail one probably needs surgery and the other if it is actually getting worse as I suspect could cause me impairment. I will do something about them when and if I want too regardless of what the women in my life are telling me to do about it. Yes, my girlfriend and my mother are telling me to deal with the issues and they have been doing it for a while now.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Women don't discourage men from seeing the doctor. Men discourage men from seeing the doctor.
Click to expand...

The only person that discourages me to go to the doctor is myself. I don't even remember the last time I went to doctor, and I have no appoints scheduled right now. I have better things to do than waste my life away in a doctors office. Saying that, I really should go.
 
Last edited:
Henrin said:
I have never been much into being influenced by other people. I generally don't accept advice and I generally don't take kindly to people being up my ass about something that I should be doing, but I'm not. I'm pretty well versed on what I should be doing and telling me about it just comes off as annoying. Look, I damn well know when something is wrong with me and if I'm ignoring it consider it my final choice. I actually do have things wrong with me right now and without going into detail one probably needs surgery and the other if it is actually getting worse as I suspect could cause me impairment. I will do something about them when and if I want too regardless of what the women in my life are telling me to do about it. Yes, my girlfriend and my mother are telling me to deal with the issues and they have been doing it for a while now.
Click to expand...

See a pattern? Sorry, Henrin. That's a selfish attitude to have. If you are alone, with no family, friends or significant others, you have every right to feel that way. Unfortunately, your "I, I, I, me, me, me" attitude is going to hurt the ones that love you. They are the ones that have to suffer because you didn't take care of yourself.
 
Capster78 said:
If someone broke into her house and held her at gunpoint tell her he/she is going to rape her husband or her kids?
Click to expand...

I think the question's shortcoming is that it seems to suggest that there is a particular way in which the reader is supposed to assume that women will react.

As a woman, I can tell you that there have been a number of situations where my reactions have been different from what you might expect of a woman, and I know other women whose reactions have also varied considerably from each other. In fact, even as an individual, your reactions may vary ... how many children? how old? how old is the woman? all of these might influence her reaction far more than simply the fact that she is a woman.

I would expect also that in many cases, a mother may react differently to threats against her children than she would to threats against non related children or her husband, although not always.
 
Superfly said:
See a pattern? Sorry, Henrin. That's a selfish attitude to have. If you are alone, with no family, friends or significant others, you have every right to feel that way. Unfortunately, your "I, I, I, me, me, me" attitude is going to hurt the ones that love you. They are the ones that have to suffer because you didn't take care of yourself.
Click to expand...

Eh... I'm sorry, but I gotta disagree.

Our loved ones don't own us. If they can't deal with us as we are, they should go somewhere else.

"Loved ones" are often used as an excuse to shame people, even as far as guilting and bullying a suicidal loved one. You wanna talk about selfish? THAT is selfish, and unbelievably cruel as well.

No one's perfect. There are much worse flaws someone could have than a weird aversion to taking care of their health. :shrug:

If Henrin wants to die young, that's his business, I guess, and no one really has any right to demand he not continue along that trajectory.
 
wolfie said:
Men can get an erection riding on a bus!!

There would be one simple way to solve the whole problem..If you are about to get raped..smile at the guy..and say ''Hey honey..how about a blow job??

Kneel down..push his legs apart and bite his balls as hard as you can..and roll to the back of him..(then he can't hit you)..hold in there until the ambulance arrives to take you both to hospital to get you surgically removed!! :cool:
Click to expand...

On a bus is a different scenario. He may be calmly thinking about good thinks while in a parasympathetic state. The parasympathetic state is required for erection and I do not see that happening under a threat of being raped from a woman (i.e., at gun point) for then the sympathetic alarming state is activated.
 
Superfly said:
First of all, your question doesn't make a lot of sense. I re-read it three times, and still it is unclear. Secondly, you simply said a woman can't rape a man. You didn't qualify your statement with "the man is a teenager with no muscle." You said, "This is stupid. How can a woman rape a man?" I gave you one way. Just one. It's kind of naïve to think that a man can't be raped by a woman.
Click to expand...

No problem. Here it is what happened.

You said that a man can get an erection because all women are not dainty. That in itself makes no sense for it takes a dainty or sexy woman to calm and erect a man so as an erect man than might be raped against his will (highly unlikely IMO).

But let us assume that the woman is larger and has more muscle than a man and can overpower him. What is needed for an erection (unless one is a geez had like teenagers) is a secure environment if not being calm so as the parasympathetic system can pump blood into the penis and erect it.

That cannot happen without a man's consent which is related to that state of security. Now a man may want to be raped and may find such a situation secure but then what sort of a victim or a rape would that be is questionable.

Involuntary erection again occurs with geez heads such as teenagers. It happens with adults also but that is more rare and the rapist woman should be lucky to have captured a man in such a rare state.

Biological Psychology: Chapter 2 Summary & Outline
 
Capster78 said:
If someone broke into her house and held her at gunpoint tell her he/she is going to rape her husband or her kids?
Click to expand...

What kind of society do you live in, FFS?

Sort yourselves out.

And get rid of the guns, so that eejit can't break in and hold you at gunpoint (it's not rocket science).
 
DDD said:
No problem. Here it is what happened.

You said that a man can get an erection because all women are not dainty. That in itself makes no sense for it takes a dainty or sexy woman to calm and erect a man so as an erect man than might be raped against his will (highly unlikely IMO).

But let us assume that the woman is larger and has more muscle than a man and can overpower him. What is needed for an erection (unless one is a geez had like teenagers) is a secure environment if not being calm so as the parasympathetic system can pump blood into the penis and erect it.

That cannot happen without a man's consent which is related to that state of security. Now a man may want to be raped and may find such a situation secure but then what sort of a victim or a rape would that be is questionable.

Involuntary erection again occurs with geez heads such as teenagers. It happens with adults also but that is more rare and the rapist woman should be lucky to have captured a man in such a rare state.

Biological Psychology: Chapter 2 Summary & Outline
Click to expand...

I have to agree that it would be much more difficult for a woman to rape a man than vice versa. Not impossible, but a lot more difficult. How did this conversation take this turn anyways? :lol:
 
Viv said:
What kind of society do you live in, FFS?

Sort yourselves out.

And get rid of the guns, so that eejit can't break in and hold you at gunpoint (it's not rocket science).
Click to expand...

Oh, so it's that simple is it? Just "get rid of guns." Good Lord, how simplistic! Because you know, if you ban guns they will all just magically disappear! :lol:
 
Last edited:
ChrisL said:
I have to agree that it would be much more difficult for a woman to rape a man than vice versa. Not impossible, but a lot more difficult. How did this conversation take this turn anyways? :lol:
Click to expand...

The scenario in this thread calls for a woman to save his beloved husband should he be in real "danger" to be raped from another woman. I called that "stupid" and some peers here asked for elaboration. That was it basically.
 
DDD said:
The scenario in this thread calls for a woman to save his beloved husband should he be in real "danger" to be raped from another woman. I called that "stupid" and some peers here asked for elaboration. That was it basically.
Click to expand...

Well, it could be another man. Then the husband might be in some trouble and hoping that his wife does indeed have a gun handy. :lol:
 
ChrisL said:
Oh, so it's that simple is it? Just "get rid of guns." Good Lord, how simplistic! Because you know, if you ban guns they will all just magically disappear! :lol:
Click to expand...

Good Lord, have you heard that old chestnut "keep doing what you always did and you keep getting what you always got" at all?

You have to get a grip and grow up.

And if I have to draw the analogy of post war disarmament one more time on this forum...I'm afraid even you might understand entire nations can be disarmed (even when they have spent time killing each other and trying to wipe each other out completely) and it can make the community a safer place.

It might be more complex in your case, due to the apparent dumbing down of your people and the plethora of right wing extremists who can't be told anything and think law is for others but not for them.. but this is not attributable to the logistics of disarmament.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Eh... I'm sorry, but I gotta disagree.

Our loved ones don't own us. If they can't deal with us as we are, they should go somewhere else.

"Loved ones" are often used as an excuse to shame people, even as far as guilting and bullying a suicidal loved one. You wanna talk about selfish? THAT is selfish, and unbelievably cruel as well.

No one's perfect. There are much worse flaws someone could have than a weird aversion to taking care of their health. :shrug:

If Henrin wants to die young, that's his business, I guess, and no one really has any right to demand he not continue along that trajectory.
Click to expand...

No, of course it's his every right to be selfish and demand that he not take care of himself. But the fact remains that if he doesn't take care of himself, and dies at an early age, who's going to be left around to mourn, and to grieve? It's his family and his loved ones, not him. He's gone. They are the ones who are left behind, grieving the loss.
 
Viv said:
Good Lord, have you heard that old chestnut "keep doing what you always did and you keep getting what you always got" at all?

You have to get a grip and grow up.

And if I have to draw the analogy of post war disarmament one more time on this forum...I'm afraid even you might understand entire nations can be disarmed (even when they have spent time killing each other and trying to wipe each other out completely) and it can make the community a safer place.

It might be more complex in your case, due to the apparent dumbing down of your people and the plethora of right wing extremists who can't be told anything and think law is for others but not for them.. but this is not attributable to the logistics of disarmament.
Click to expand...

You'll never get rid of guns. In countries where they are illegal, there is a huge black market for them, and only bad guys and government have them. Maybe that's the kind of country you want to live in, but not me. There is no reason at all to disarm people who don't abuse their second amendment right.
 
Superfly said:
No, of course it's his every right to be selfish and demand that he not take care of himself. But the fact remains that if he doesn't take care of himself, and dies at an early age, who's going to be left around to mourn, and to grieve? It's his family and his loved ones, not him. He's gone. They are the ones who are left behind, grieving the loss.
Click to expand...

Get over it.

We all die. How utterly selfish for us to have the audacity to be mortal.

Henrin is just choosing the circumstances of his mortality, which he has ever right to do.

And anyone who actually cares about him, rather than just themselves, will respect that, quirky and inexplicable as it may be.

Their feelings? Are you kidding? He's the one who would be DEAD, and you're complaining about your feelings?

Other peoples' existence is not about you, or the other people in their lives. That is the exact opposite of what it means to be loving.

What it means to be loving is that it has nothing to do with you. And if everyone involved lives by that, you wind up with the purest kind of love.

If they don't like it, they don't have to stay.
 
ChrisL said:
Well, it could be another man. Then the husband might be in some trouble and hoping that his wife does indeed have a gun handy. :lol:
Click to expand...

A gay rapist makes more sense but it was dashed with that of a woman rapist in the scenario. The later is quite unlikely.
 
DDD said:
A gay rapist makes more sense but it was dashed with that of a woman rapist in the scenario. The later is quite unlikely.
Click to expand...

I agree with that. I think that incidents of women raping men are probably pretty rare. I'm sure that there are plenty of times when men ARE taken advantage of by women though, such as when they had too much to drink or something.

I have a friend who had this crazy girl who thought she was in love with him and would try to have sex with him whenever he got drunk, and most of the time he would do it and then feel bad in the morning.
 
ChrisL said:
I agree with that. I think that incidents of women raping men are probably pretty rare. I'm sure that there are plenty of times when men ARE taken advantage of by women though, such as when they had too much to drink or something.

I have a friend who had this crazy girl who thought she was in love with him and would try to have sex with him whenever he got drunk, and most of the time he would do it and then feel bad in the morning.
Click to expand...

Too bad for her rape pills wont work on men huh? ;)
 
DDD said:
Too bad for her rape pills wont work on men huh? ;)
Click to expand...

Huh? Rape pills? You mean Rohypnol, the date rape drug? Of course, it works on any human being.
 
DDD said:
But if you knock a man down he wont be erected?
Click to expand...

I don't know, why don't YOU tell me? :mrgreen: Can they? I think they can.
 
I don't mean to brag or anything, but that's never been a problem for me before. I've never had to rape a guy before. :lamo
 
Viv said:
Good Lord, have you heard that old chestnut "keep doing what you always did and you keep getting what you always got" at all?

You have to get a grip and grow up.

And if I have to draw the analogy of post war disarmament one more time on this forum...I'm afraid even you might understand entire nations can be disarmed (even when they have spent time killing each other and trying to wipe each other out completely) and it can make the community a safer place.

It might be more complex in your case, due to the apparent dumbing down of your people and the plethora of right wing extremists who can't be told anything and think law is for others but not for them.. but this is not attributable to the logistics of disarmament.
Click to expand...

I like my guns and stuff. I find them quite useful, they are especially good at the immediate removal of riffraff. Why would I get rid of them? To suit some mook I don't know. No I don't think so. Besides the law is on MY side. I have the RIGHT to keep my guns, and it shall not be infringed. I now this because that what it says in our Constitution. They want to take them they have to do it legally that requires an amendment and 3/4 of the states voting for that amendment. So yes the law is VERY much on my side. Its the antigun nut jobs who seem to think the law is NOT for them and keep trying to infringe on my rights. Reasonable should expect people to NOT take kindly to that. I don't want a safer place. I want the capacity to take care of my family while WAITING the police show up. Only an idiot wouldn't want that capacity. Most of the idiots trying to take my arms are fools with NO comprehension of what kind scum human beings can be.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom