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Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

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Sherman123 said:
Alright, I think this line of questioning kind of drives home the point that many proponents of moral interventionism would have. There are more principles in the world than whether or not our national sovereignty was violated. The enslavement of hundreds of millions and the slaughter of tens of millions more are worthy enough causes to engage in conflict. The salvation of our brothers and sisters in Asia and in Europe was a cause worth fighting for in an effort to repel the Nazi yolk, halt the Stalinist advance, and overthrow the Empire of Japan. The 'America First' proponents were wrong in 1939 and they would be wrong today.
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I agree that preventing genocidal situations is worthwhile, IF and when we have good reason to believe that our intervention will do more good than harm. However, short of preventing genocide, we should stay out of other nation's affairs militarily.
 
Hard Truth said:
Sometimes attempting to fight evil does more damage than good. We didn't really go into Iraq to fight evil (although I'm sure many of our troops believed that was the plan) and we did more harm than good. That would have been the case even if our intentions were purely for good.
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A couple of points:

1. Although shakey we gave Iraq a chance.....They have a democratic elected Gov...They have to make it work now...........No one said it would be easy.

2 Saddam and his sons will not be raping teen age girls again.

3. We don't have to worry about Saddam giving a dirty Nuke to some terrorist organization to explode here.

Those are the facts...............They are undenialble.
It will take years to see how this goes down in history.
 
50-11 I am pleasantly surprised about how this poll has turned out.........I am so proud of my fellow members.
 
Navy Pride said:
A couple of points:

1. Although shakey we gave Iraq a chance.....They have a democratic elected Gov...They have to make it work now...........No one said it would be easy.

2 Saddam and his sons will not be raping teen age girls again.

3. We don't have to worry about Saddam giving a dirty Nuke to some terrorist organization to explode here.

Those are the facts...............They are undenialble.
It will take years to see how this goes down in history.
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Same talking points again Navy?
 
Navy Pride said:
50-11 I am pleasantly surprised about how this poll has turned out.........I am so proud of my fellow members.
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It's not shocking, but is also meaningless.
 
proud of other 12 :lol:
 
he was a dictator and l am not a fan of him .but l believe being a dictator is better than being fake democrat
 
Medusa said:
he was a dictator and l am not a fan of him .but l believe being a dictator is better than being fake democrat
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Quite frankly, there are some parts of the world that need strong-armed leaders, because the population isn't yet capable of handling a democracy. They haven't been culturally conditioned to accept its weak points with its strengths.
 
lizzie said:
Quite frankly, there are some parts of the world that need strong-armed leaders, because the population isn't yet capable of handling a democracy. They haven't been culturally conditioned to accept its weak points with its strengths.
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l agree but l also believe many other parts of the world seem more democratic than these dictatorships because the people of these countries believe they live under democracy .
 
Navy Pride said:
Maybe to you because the results are not in your favor...........To me it restores my faith in the members of DP.
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Not sure what you think is not in my favor. What is in my favor?
 
Medusa said:
he was a dictator and l am not a fan of him .but l believe being a dictator is better than being fake democrat
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Medusa said:
l agree but l also believe many other parts of the world seem more democratic than these dictatorships because the people of these countries believe they live under democracy .
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Who are the fake democrats/democracies?
 
Navy Pride said:
You can't have it both ways my left wing friend.......
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Again, not following you. I see it only one way: Bush lied, was reckless, spent young American lives, spent tens of thousands of Iraqi lives, made more mistakes than one would think possible, so yes, he deserves credit the worse policy decision in my lifetime.
 
And never the twain shall meet.

Hindsight is 20/20, and there are many regrets and "if only's." But I don't think Bush lied. I don't think he deliberately misled the American people.
 
Navy Pride said:


Anything that would take credit away from President Bush.
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Does Bush credit for the $2.2 trillion added to the debt, the 4500 troops killed, thousands of life altering injuries?
 
The USA and the world would be a better place if G.W. Bush had never been born.

Getting rid of Saddam Hussein did nothing for the USA.

Because of the Bush mis-administrations illegal war in Iraq about 4,500 American warriors died, 30,000 were badly wounded, we have a $1 trillion debt and are looking at $700 billion to $1 trillion in future costs. The USA gained nothing, but it lost a hell of a lot.

We won't talk about the huge Iraqi losses, the way over 100,000 innocent civilians dead and hundreds of thousands wounded.

Iran gained a lot, and China gained a good bit.

I don't see that as a good thing for the USA.

Anyone who thinks that the USA gained anything in Iraq need to have a talk with the families of some of the dead and wounded Americans.

That's all that I have to say on this sad topic.



"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
 
nota bene said:
And never the twain shall meet.

Hindsight is 20/20, and there are many regrets and "if only's." But I don't think Bush lied. I don't think he deliberately misled the American people.
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Maybe you just want to believe he didn't. But it takes some serious willing suspension of disbelief not think he lied when he said things the intel didn't support, and held no one accountable for either lying to him or not telling him everything.
 
Boo Radley said:
I keep trying o give Bush credit. His mess, his lies, his deaths. I agree he deserves credit.
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I agree.

Bush deserves all the credit for the dead and wounded and the money wasted in Iraq.

The man should be locked up.
 
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