Funny. That's not what Japense women on the whole have to say.
Project MUSE - <i>Women and Family in Contemporary Japan</i> (review)
I don't even know why I bother posting evidence for you anymore, but there ya go.
I don't know why you bother posting evidence that you do not
read.
Citing from
your own source:
...
Mothering is a hot topic in Japan. This has been the case for some time, but the topic has taken on even greater significance in an era when Japanese fertility has sunk to a historic low. With a total fertility rate hovering around 1.3, Japan is one of a handful of postindustrial countries with rates so low as to be dubbed a "lowest-low" fertility society by demographers. The low fertility rate is closely linked to an ever-rising age at marriage and increasing rates of nonmarriage, leading the Japanese and international media to ponder what it is that seemingly makes marriage—and by implication, childbearing—so unattractive to young Japanese. Among the list of hypothesized reasons is the continuing normative pressure on Japanese women to fulfill the requirements of being "good wives, wise mothers" (ry�sai kenbo).
Susan Holloway's Women and Family in Contemporary Japan does not aim to broach this thesis head-on but instead strives to provide an intimate view of how Japanese mothers of young children experience their parental role. Holloway notes at the outset that comparative opinion surveys find Japanese women reporting less satisfaction with family life and childrearing than women in many other nations. Moreover, Japanese mothers also tend to report lower confidence in their childrearing abilities than mothers in a number of other countries. At face value, these tendencies are surprising, given the great importance placed on mothering by media, scholarship, and the government in Japan. Especially noteworthy is the consistent emphasis in the comparative cultural psychology literature on the particular strength of the mother-child bond in Japan, a bond for which Holloway finds precious little evidence in her study. Yet as Holloway's analysis skillfully reveals, the juxtaposition of a high cultural valuation of mothering with many mothers' deep feelings of inadequacy is not as ironic as may first appear. In fact, the deep-seated anxieties of many Japanese mothers may stem precisely from the combination of strong normative pressures to perform well and the notable dearth of social and emotional support from family members and others in a mother's immediate environment....
Do you know what it says
NOWHERE in your source? Do you know what it does not even
SUGGEST in your source?
Nowhere does it
say or
suggest that:
Smoke said:
if you want to know one of the biggest reasons why Japan's birth rate is plummeting, it's because women are still treated like chattel in domestic roles, but not in professional roles.
Huh. Now that is interesting.
You do know that downwards trends do not always lead to zero, just as upwards trends do not always carry on to infinity, right?
I certainly do. I also know that your claim that an elderly bulge can stabilize was, is, and will remain mathematically impossible.
Also, I'm pretty sure I just said that 10 years is far too short a window to make any judgement about where a society is headed.
Not really, especially with demographics. It is, agreeably, usefull that time moves forwards. Today's 40 year olds will be our retirees in 30 years. So we know quite alot about our retirees of the 2040's - because we can already see them.
There are so many things wrong with this I don't even know where to begin.
Given that I stopped debating *you* a long time ago, with it went willingness to do this at length, I will simply say that comparing our entitlement system to the death prisons a lot of the Eastern block sent people to is absolutely insane
:lol: Well you are certainly correct that you have stopped debating me, not least because I have never made such a comparison.
and that one can clearly see that entitlement programs are not the main issue when comparing all the places that have them with radically different outcomes: most tellingly, America.
America has a less developed system of financial transfer and a higher fertility rate, which is why Europe is in greater trouble than we are (currently). But we are both of us headed in the same direction - they're just further along and moving a bit faster at that. Social Security was designed with a fertility rate of between 3 and 4 as an assumption for sustainability. We no longer have that fertility rate, ergo, SS is no longer sustainable.
Is there anything you see as bad in the entire world that you do not think is caused by people not breeding enough for your liking?
(shrug) sure. Lots. For example, lots of poverty in Africa is fed by stupid western agricultural subsidies that put African exports at a disadvantage. Our urban poor have extremely high unemployment because we have hiked the tax and regulatory cost threshold for hiring an American citizen (but not an illegal!
rof) above the value of their hourly labor. Digital interconnectedness is increasing the destructive capacity of non-linear non-state actors. But fertility is the subject of the thread at hand, and it does touch on some of the fairly major problems that we face.
Not to me. But to the universe, yes, they are.
And how exactly did you gain the ability to speak on behalf of the Universe?
Only if you judge on pure numbers, but that would be dishonest, since hunter-gathering relies on maintaining small numbers.
On the contrary. Once you recognize that people are on average a net plus, numbers is a rational metric.
Hunter gatherer societies still exist. They live well into their 60's and they work less than we do -- even now. Why fix what ain't broke?
Unless, of course, they died in the constant low-level state of warfare (punctuated by occasional massacres) that marked those societies. Why fix large child mortality rates? Goodness, I wonder....
It wasn't a superior model, and it still isn't in the long run. It was the only model available to us unless we were just going to kill everyone.
which sort of makes it..... superior.
but how very empathetic.
It's the most accurate descriptor for your mindset.
You are confusing "how you would like to look down on others in order to build yourself up by comparison" with "how others think". Not terribly empathetic at
all.
So when you run out of things to actually say, you just have a tantrum. How completely unsurprising.
:you said something utterly banal, and I made some fun of it because you insisted on repeating that particular piece of narcissism.
As for my parents, one of them is, and the other definitely isn't. Parenting, like location, does not necessarily dictate ones world view.
What a fascinating claim. I would agree. I would also note that it doesn't match at all your
earlier claim that parents
do have parochial worldviews, whereas the worldviews of the CF are bigger, broader, etc.
