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Do you REALLY care about the next Pope?

How much do you care about who the next Pope is?

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Carleen said:
I think it got so much press because he resigned which has not happened in a very long time.
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Quite possible.

I'm just fantastically relieved the elitists appointed a new uber-elite leader in such a short period of time.

Imagine if the process had lasted a month or more........
 
Dragonfly said:
Quite possible.

I'm just fantastically relieved the elitists appointed a new uber-elite leader in such a short period of time.

Imagine if the process had lasted a month or more........
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This made me curious. The election of Gregory X took the longest, from November 1268until September 1 of 1271. From Wiki:

As a result of the length of the election, during which three of the twenty cardinal-electors died and one resigned, Gregory X promulgated the apostolic constitution, Ubi periculum, on July 7 (or 16), 1274, during the Second Council of Lyon, establishing the papal conclave, whose rules were based on the tactics employed against the cardinals in Viterbo. The election itself is sometimes viewed as the first conclave.

Papal election, 1268
 
Peter Grimm said:
Good and evil are absolute.

Murder is bad. Charity is good.

To say that morality is subjective is just a cop out.
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Not all homicides are evil.
Murder is a legal construct. Specifically it is an illegal homicide. You have to accept that the law gets it right 100% of the time to accept that all murders are bad. I'm not to willing give the law that level of infallibility.

Would charitable contributions to an organization that kills innocent people be good?
 
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Navy Pride said:
I am no theologian but I have forgot more about the Catholic Church then you will ever know.
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But if you forgot more than you'll ever know, that doesn't help anyone.
 
mak2 said:
I am not Catholic but I beleive the Catholic Church is overall a force of good in the world. I therefore hope they choose wisely and continue to be a good, powerful institiution world wide.
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I’m not Catholic but I believe the Catholic Church is overall a force in the world. They are generally good but they could be much better. I therefore hope they choose wisely.
 
It's sad that the Catholic Church, a religious body that does unparalleled work for the poor and needly, still can't let go of outdated traditions and prejudices.

The last time I attended mass, the priest hit on both abortion and gay marriage in the homily. "Hate the sin, not the sinner." They can't even say that with a straight face any more since most people know homosexuality is not a "lifestyle choice", it's how god made them.
 
mr4anarchy said:
It's sad that the Catholic Church, a religious body that does unparalleled work for the poor and needly, still can't let go of outdated traditions and prejudices.

The last time I attended mass, the priest hit on both abortion and gay marriage in the homily. "Hate the sin, not the sinner." They can't even say that with a straight face any more since most people know homosexuality is not a "lifestyle choice", it's how god made them.
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This is not a matter of established scientific fact. Yet.
 
Gaius46 said:
Did you at some point decide what gender you were going to be attracted to or was the attraction just there?
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Shhhhh, you're just going to confuse people by making them think.
 
Gaius46 said:
Did you at some point decide what gender you were going to be attracted to or was the attraction just there?
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Not sure why you would ask me this question in response to my stating that scientific fact has not been established. It has not. Would you like to respond to what I actually said, or would you prefer to kid yourself that your question is some sort of test?
 
I care about my next poop far more than some stuffy old retard wearing ridiculously gaudy clothing and living like a king because the worlds population is delusional.
 
Gaius46 said:
Did you at some point decide what gender you were going to be attracted to or was the attraction just there?
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There are psychological reasons that obfuscate a person's choice from everyone including them.
 
Bodhisattva said:
I care about my next poop far more than some stuffy old retard wearing ridiculously gaudy clothing and living like a king because the worlds population is delusional.
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Interesting that you commented on the wardrobe because I read Noonan's column today, and she wrote about his sartorial simplicity--just the white cassock.
 
nota bene said:
Interesting that you commented on the wardrobe because I read Noonan's column today, and she wrote about his sartorial simplicity--just the white cassock.
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What is wrong with pants and a t-shirt? They all dress like it is the 1200's. Time to get with the times...
 
Bodhisattva said:
What is wrong with pants and a t-shirt? They all dress like it is the 1200's. Time to get with the times...
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I guess it depends on how you view uniforms and special occasions. Cops can get the job done in pants and a t-shirt, ditto any minister. But clothes can invest a circumstance with dignity and distinguish one and his or her role from others appropriately.
 
nota bene said:
Not sure why you would ask me this question in response to my stating that scientific fact has not been established. It has not. Would you like to respond to what I actually said, or would you prefer to kid yourself that your question is some sort of test?
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I am responding directly to what you said. "Lifestyle choice" implies a conscious decision made by an individual. For the vast majority of people I'm willing to wager that it isn't a conscious decision but rather something innate to the person. I didn't decide to be attracted to women and not men, i just was. It should be plainly obvious for most people from personal experience that this is true.

Searching for, and not finding, biological mechanisms doesn't invalidate that.
 
Bodhisattva said:
There are psychological reasons that obfuscate a person's choice from everyone including them.
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Even assuming this to be the case it doesn't mean that the individual had any conscious say in the matter or that he can change it even if he wanted to.
 
nota bene said:
I guess it depends on how you view uniforms and special occasions. Cops can get the job done in pants and a t-shirt, ditto any minister. But clothes can invest a circumstance with dignity and distinguish one and his or her role from others appropriately.
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I think that a suit and tie is actually the right attire...
 
Gaius46 said:
Even assuming this to be the case it doesn't mean that the individual had any conscious say in the matter or that he can change it even if he wanted to.
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That is absolutely possible. I was only refuting the "born that way" claim.
 
I don't but 1.3 billion people (my wife included) do. That alone makes it newsworthy.
 
I read somewhere a couple of days ago that 5500 reporters converged on Rome, so I guess their editors thought this was newsworthy too.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Good and evil are absolute.

Murder is bad. Charity is good.

To say that morality is subjective is just a cop out.
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Not so...

None of us can so much as share a fart with one another...
 
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