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Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years old?

Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years old?

  • No, it's not wrong. We should change the law so material that old is public domain.

    Votes: 22 62.9%

  • It's technically wrong, but not really a big deal.

    Votes: 7 20.0%

  • Yes, it's wrong. The copyright owner has the right to control it, even if he's an heir.

    Votes: 5 14.3%

  • Not sure.

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Total voters
    35
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Dr. Chuckles said:
Using a public tracker like the pirate bay should be a last resort type thing. Hopefully the people using it are also using something like peerblock
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It is, I have other trackers but they are for specific things and sometimes don't have what I want.
 
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Alyssa said:
I have literally thousands of DVDs. I refuse to replace them. Furthermore, I have grown increasingly agitated with trying to keep the DVDs in order and from being scratched. I don't understand why people tolerate it. It seems more efficient and ordered to have media on some type of hard drive format where it can be easily kept and retrieved. Also, the quality is HD. I seriously doubt there is much of a difference. But i guess if i had piddled my money away on a stack of Blu Rays, I'd also want to feel good about that.
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I'd love a way to rip all my DVDs onto a HD that could be hooked up through the port on my TV. I think I even mentioned that earlier. I just don't know if there are HDs that big yet, and I don't have enough ports on my TV without having to swap out a bunch of HDs. I know you aren't interested in changing out your collection, but Blurays don't scratch as easily. They have a heavy coating that protects them.
 
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Superfly said:
I'd love a way to rip all my DVDs onto a HD that could be hooked up through the port on my TV. I think I even mentioned that earlier. I just don't know if there are HDs that big yet, and I don't have enough ports on my TV without having to swap out a bunch of HDs. I know you aren't interested in changing out your collection, but Blurays don't scratch as easily. They have a heavy coating that protects them.
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An HD what?
 
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Superfly said:
I'd love a way to rip all my DVDs onto a HD that could be hooked up through the port on my TV. I think I even mentioned that earlier. I just don't know if there are HDs that big yet, and I don't have enough ports on my TV without having to swap out a bunch of HDs. I know you aren't interested in changing out your collection, but Blurays don't scratch as easily. They have a heavy coating that protects them.
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I HATE DVDs. I try to keep them organized, and people keep taking them out of the case, and then not putting them back in the right place. Then, the DVDs pile up on the shelf for weeks and i can't find anything without thumbing through hundreds of them. It's annoying and inefficient. As far as ports on tvs, many of them did come with S cables, but now that port is no longer available on newer models. Companies make more money by selling increasingly expensive peripherals instead. **** them. There are plenty of sites to get good quality media for cheap or even for free, and have them available on my computer. Many flat screens come with usb connections. Simply connect it to the back of the computer, or set up a wireless network. I'm working on getting something similar set up on my end right now.
 
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Superfly said:
sorry, HD = hard drive
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Oh. Yeah, that's not a good economic solution, as you'd only get around 20-30 bluray movies on a 1 terrabyte hard drive or external flash drive.
 
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Cardinal said:
Oh. Yeah, that's not a good economic solution, as you'd only get around 20-30 bluray movies on a 1 terrabyte hard drive or external flash drive.
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Without extras, subtitles, and cutting some of the menu features - maybe a few more. Each blu ray disk varies in size because of the length and the PQ. Some are 20GB some are 40GB. The average size of main movie titles with one HD track varies between 20GB-to-30GB. But depending on the file size, the number could go up or down. However, one can also use a VLC media player and acquire movies and tv shows online from bit torrent sites (Piratesbay is but one), and each movie takes approximately 1.37GB. It's not "blu ray", but it is "High Definition." It's all about personal preference.
 
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Alyssa said:
I HATE DVDs. I try to keep them organized, and people keep taking them out of the case, and then not putting them back in the right place. Then, the DVDs pile up on the shelf for weeks and i can't find anything without thumbing through hundreds of them. It's annoying and inefficient. As far as ports on tvs, many of them did come with S cables, but now that port is no longer available on newer models. Companies make more money by selling increasingly expensive peripherals instead. **** them. There are plenty of sites to get good quality media for cheap or even for free, and have them available on my computer. Many flat screens come with usb connections. Simply connect it to the back of the computer, or set up a wireless network. I'm working on getting something similar set up on my end right now.
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I think I have 3 or 4 usb ports on my TV. I can't remember. There might be a S-video cable back there, and a place for component cables. There's mostly HDMI ports, though.
 
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Alyssa said:
Without extras, subtitles, and cutting some of the menu features - maybe a few more. Each blu ray disk varies in size because of the length and the PQ. Some are 20GB some are 40GB. The average size of main movie titles with one HD track varies between 20GB-to-30GB. But depending on the file size, the number could go up or down. However, one can also use a VLC media player and acquire movies and tv shows online from bit torrent sites (Piratesbay is but one), and each movie takes approximately 1.37GB. It's not "blu ray", but it is "High Definition." It's all about personal preference.
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Well, I was calculating at 50GB/movie, the most possible. And those hd torrents are crap, they can slap "HD" or "1080p" on those all they like, they're still crap.

Anyway, Superfly definitely needs to get the WD Sentinel 16TB external drive. At 40GB/movie he can cram 400 bluray movies on there, and all for the ultra cheap price of $1,699.99.

WD Sentinel DX4000 16TB Small Business Storage Server and 1 Year Guardian Express Service Bundle
 
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Cardinal said:
Oh. Yeah, that's not a good economic solution, as you'd only get around 20-30 bluray movies on a 1 terrabyte hard drive or external flash drive.
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yeah but like Ev said, I think it'd go down significantly if I didn't rip everything on the disk, and just got the movie.

I don't know - there has to be an easier way to do this. This is the digital age -- there has to be way to watch movies without the clunkiness of a thousand disks in your collection. When we moved, we gave away about a thousand movies to our kids because it was just too difficult to store them.
 
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Cardinal said:
Well, I was calculating at 50GB/movie, the most possible. And those hd torrents are crap, they can slap "HD" or "1080p" on those all they like, they're still crap.

Anyway, Superfly definitely needs to get the WD Sentinel 16TB external drive. At 40GB/movie he can cram 400 bluray movies on there, and all for the ultra cheap price of $1,699.99.

WD Sentinel DX4000 16TB Small Business Storage Server and 1 Year Guardian Express Service Bundle
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That's what I'm talkin' about!!
 
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Superfly said:
yeah but like Ev said, I think it'd go down significantly if I didn't rip everything on the disk, and just got the movie.

I don't know - there has to be an easier way to do this. This is the digital age -- there has to be way to watch movies without the clunkiness of a thousand disks in your collection. When we moved, we gave away about a thousand movies to our kids because it was just too difficult to store them.
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You do what we all do: wait for higher capacities to become more mainstream and buy them when the prices come down. I hadn't bought a flash thumb drive since 2008, paying about $25 for a 4GB drive. I had to replace it eventually and found a 32GB for $21.
 
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Superfly said:
That's what I'm talkin' about!!
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Awww yeah. Of course you'd have to ignore that the hard drive capacity alone is at least twice what you're paying for the movies.
 
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Alyssa said:
Without extras, subtitles, and cutting some of the menu features - maybe a few more. Each blu ray disk varies in size because of the length and the PQ. Some are 20GB some are 40GB. The average size of main movie titles with one HD track varies between 20GB-to-30GB. But depending on the file size, the number could go up or down. However, one can also use a VLC media player and acquire movies and tv shows online from bit torrent sites (Piratesbay is but one), and each movie takes approximately 1.37GB. It's not "blu ray", but it is "High Definition." It's all about personal preference.
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Even high quality DVDs are at most 5 gigs and at least half that is add-on slop. Personally I don't find the difference between blu-ray and HQ DVD noticeable at all.

On average the DVD screener from the scene is available a day or two before it hits theatres.
 
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Cardinal said:
You do what we all do: wait for higher capacities to become more mainstream and buy them when the prices come down. I hadn't bought a flash thumb drive since 2008, paying about $25 for a 4GB drive. I had to replace it eventually and found a 32GB for $21.
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Exactly. I never jump on the bandwagon when new media comes out. It's always too expensive. I wait 'til it gets cheaper - and it always gets cheaper.
 
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I wonder if anyone has edactic, videographic memory. Stream a movie once and watch it forever in your own head. :p
 
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Cardinal said:
Awww yeah. Of course you'd have to ignore that the hard drive capacity alone is at least twice what you're paying for the movies.
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You but the ease of dealing with it, and the fact that you don't have to store a thousand disks anymore. Just one piece of equipment, about the size of a small amp. Now - to get the $1700 LOL.
 
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Superfly said:
I'd love a way to rip all my DVDs onto a HD that could be hooked up through the port on my TV. I think I even mentioned that earlier. I just don't know if there are HDs that big yet, and I don't have enough ports on my TV without having to swap out a bunch of HDs. I know you aren't interested in changing out your collection, but Blurays don't scratch as easily. They have a heavy coating that protects them.
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most blue rays are around 50 gigs, if you do a complete rip. But a high quality encode runs about 10-15 gigs, and can reach 1080 quality
 
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Alyssa said:
Without extras, subtitles, and cutting some of the menu features - maybe a few more. Each blu ray disk varies in size because of the length and the PQ. Some are 20GB some are 40GB. The average size of main movie titles with one HD track varies between 20GB-to-30GB. But depending on the file size, the number could go up or down. However, one can also use a VLC media player and acquire movies and tv shows online from bit torrent sites (Piratesbay is but one), and each movie takes approximately 1.37GB. It's not "blu ray", but it is "High Definition." It's all about personal preference.
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a 1-2 gig rip isn't likely to be in HD
 
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Just save all the bestest of the best for blue-ray (something you TRULY see yourself watching over 10 times in your life)

And cram all the dvd quality onto cheap harddrives if you own the movie. It also helps to have a super-vindictive person in the household that scratches up a blue-ray every time someone leaves it out or doesn't put it back in its case. :D
 
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MoSurveyor said:
As long as they fidelity of your online source isn't any better than the broadcast version. ;)
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How could it be if that's where they get their copies?
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
I freaking HATE cams. At that point, if I don't want to pony up the cash, or can't access a theater, I'll just wait
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While I never, ever, ever under any circumstances go to a theater, I also don't download theatrical films. They come out on Bluray so fast, what's the point? I just wait and buy it if I want to see it.
 
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Fiddytree said:
8-10 bucks is hardly breaking the bank to see a film in the theaters either. Folks are just lazy.
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When you're talking a family of 4, plus drinks and popcorn, it can be quite expensive, but heck, if I just wait 2 months, I can buy the Bluray for $20, sit in the comfort of my living room and watch it as many times as I want.
 
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Fiddytree said:
Remember Romero's Night of the Living Dead? Because of the contract he signed it's now in the public domain, we've now got so many cuts and edits to the film that it is worse than having a conversation about which version and restoration of Blade Runner you liked best.
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So? If he made a bad business decision, it's his problem. Personally, there are some cuts of that film I find absolutely hysterical.
 
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Superfly said:
I'd love a way to rip all my DVDs onto a HD that could be hooked up through the port on my TV. I think I even mentioned that earlier. I just don't know if there are HDs that big yet, and I don't have enough ports on my TV without having to swap out a bunch of HDs. I know you aren't interested in changing out your collection, but Blurays don't scratch as easily. They have a heavy coating that protects them.
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They couldn't make a HD large enough to hold everything I have, but if you do have something on your HD, most gaming devices and many Bluray players will allow you to stream it wirelessly to your TV. That's how I watch virtually all of my TV, streaming from my computer to my Xbox360 to the TV. Works great.
 
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