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Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years old?

Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years old?


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Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

Last year I had a high quality boot-leg of Avengers on my computer the very day it came out to theaters.

I haven't done that ever. That's mostly because while the technology of camcorders have increased, I'm still annoyed at the lack of detail or the immense amount of blue hue. Granted, if the price is right, I think nothing can beat the physical medium or the medium with the highest resolution in the theater. I figure that if I am going to commit a fairly costly crime, at least make the bloody thing worth my while. :p
 
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The Walking Dead on HD is also great. I actually prefer hi def, live streaming media as opposed to DVDs.

The hi-def streaming is an improvement over the DVD, but nothing will beat seeing that 16 mm film on Blu. Walking dead streaming pales in comparison.
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

I haven't done that ever. That's mostly because while the technology of camcorders have increased, I'm still annoyed at the lack of detail or the immense amount of blue hue. Granted, if the price is right, I think nothing can beat the physical medium or the medium with the highest resolution in the theater. I figure that if I am going to commit a fairly costly crime, at least make the bloody thing worth my while. :p

I freaking HATE cams. At that point, if I don't want to pony up the cash, or can't access a theater, I'll just wait
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

I freaking HATE cams. At that point, if I don't want to pony up the cash, or can't access a theater, I'll just wait

8-10 bucks is hardly breaking the bank to see a film in the theaters either. Folks are just lazy.
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

uh, with digital copies, one copy can be distributed to millions of people in a few hours, and there is no issue with constant loss of quality and no need for a physical exchange. So yes, I can clearly argue a difference

Ok. You can ignore that millions of copies of bootlegged cassettes were made and exchanged all you want. Doesn't change the fact that it did indeed happen. Doing so might have been a bit more complex but it still does not change the fact that it happened. You can't re-write history.
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

8-10 bucks is hardly breaking the bank to see a film in the theaters either. Folks are just lazy.

For me it's more about access: I live in the boonies (the tope three grossing family films are usually what I can choose from locally) and am a bit limited in my mobility, due to health reasons
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

Ok. You can ignore that millions of copies of bootlegged cassettes were made and exchanged all you want.

I didn't ignore that at all, actually. I pointed out that the same level of piracy and trading can take place within a day with one single digital copy at it's root. All the while never loosing absolutely any quality, nor requiring personal contact.



Hell, I am probably on torrent trackers that distribute that amount of data every few days
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

It doesn't matter, once it's out there, it's out there. Whether it makes any money for the content producers means nothing. If there was a sudden renewal of interest for a film that's in the public domain, so be it. People can enjoy it without paying anyone a dime.

Remember Romero's Night of the Living Dead? Because of the contract he signed it's now in the public domain, we've now got so many cuts and edits to the film that it is worse than having a conversation about which version and restoration of Blade Runner you liked best.
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

The Walking Dead on HD is also great. I actually prefer hi def, live streaming media as opposed to DVDs.

AMC is really smart with that.
It's available for purchase the day after a new episode airs.
$2.99 on amazon.
 
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Remember Romero's Night of the Living Dead? Because of the contract he signed it's now in the public domain, we've now got so many cuts and edits to the film that it is worse than having a conversation about which version and restoration of Blade Runner you liked best.

I fail to see how that makes it worse.
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

Remember Romero's Night of the Living Dead? Because of the contract he signed it's now in the public domain, we've now got so many cuts and edits to the film that it is worse than having a conversation about which version and restoration of Blade Runner you liked best.

I always heard they forgot to use a copyright label at the end?
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

I fail to see how that makes it worse.

It's like a song remix where hardly anyone can find the damned original.
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

I always heard they forgot to use a copyright label at the end?

No, you're right. I was wrong. I remembered this incorrectly. Thank you for making me double check.
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

I haven't done that ever. That's mostly because while the technology of camcorders have increased, I'm still annoyed at the lack of detail or the immense amount of blue hue. Granted, if the price is right, I think nothing can beat the physical medium or the medium with the highest resolution in the theater. I figure that if I am going to commit a fairly costly crime, at least make the bloody thing worth my while. :p
My bootleg Avengers came from a DVD manufacturer while they were in mass production for retail sale. My bootleg of Dark Knight Rises wasn't so lucky ..it's a very poor in-theater camera recording....you can hear the audience and the resolution sucks so bad I couldn't watch the movie. Every once in a while a bootleg will show the text "promotional copy not for distribution" or some-such. I was very lucky with my Avengers bootleg.

I got most of my bootlegs overseas, as illegal copies are the only copies you can get at all. $2 at a hadji shop and you have a few new titles of questionable quality. Sometimes the sound doesn't line up, sometimes the camera is covered for a moment if an usher comes near, but once you have it, you can right click and drag the file to your hard-drive and it's yours forever.
 
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The hi-def streaming is an improvement over the DVD, but nothing will beat seeing that 16 mm film on Blu. Walking dead streaming pales in comparison.

meh Blu Ray. just another gimmick. I'll take HD minus the annoying stack of DVDs.
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

meh Blu Ray. just another gimmick. I'll take HD minus the annoying stack of DVDs.

Blu-ray is where it is at, but it is something to hold me over until 4k via Redray or even from those folks at Sony. Streaming can hardly do 2k right, usually moderated 720p. Less compression, lossless audio, no need for the cloud....physical formats are still king.

Ever seen Game of Thrones or something else on Blu, and then go to the streaming or cable counterpart? Tisk tisk. In the proper hands, much better on Blu.
 
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Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

Radio uses music to attract an audience...to listen to commercials. That's the right commercial use of music. It's long established that music is the free shiny to guide us into the light to zap our wallets. Artists are very good at making audio shinnies we like to follow. Where artists went wrong in trying to charge for the music directly. No, we will have our shiny, and we won't pay for it if we don't want to. If the artist can get some extra cash by selling the music directly, great, but free music isn't a big deal. Artists should stick with using music to create ratings to sell.

Owning free music is a crime like j-walking or going 5mph over the speed limit. Get over yourself.
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

Done properly, Bluray is 10X better than standard. It's like the difference between VHS and DVD. I don't buy anything now that isn't on Bluray. That being said, I only have about 100 Blurays. The rest of my collection are standard. They are hard to watch now. :lol: So blurry and grainy.
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

I have literally thousands of DVDs. I refuse to replace them. Furthermore, I have grown increasingly agitated with trying to keep the DVDs in order and from being scratched. I don't understand why people tolerate it. It seems more efficient and ordered to have media on some type of hard drive format where it can be easily kept and retrieved. Also, the quality is HD. I seriously doubt there is much of a difference. But i guess if i had piddled my money away on a stack of Blu Rays, I'd also want to feel good about that.
 
Re: Is it ies (c) TV shows over 39 years old?

I have literally thousands of DVDs. I refuse to replace them. Furthermore, I have grown increasingly agitated with trying to keep the DVDs in order and from being scratched. I don't understand why people tolerate it. It seems more efficient and ordered to have media on some type of hard drive format where it can be easily kept and retrieved. Also, the quality is HD. I seriously doubt there is much of a difference. But i guess if i had piddled my money away on a stack of Blu Rays, I'd also want to feel good about that.

You can rip them to a hard drive as a full DVD/ blu-ray or do pretty decent, yet simple, rips using handbrake
 
Re: Is it ies (c) TV shows over 39 years old?

Bah physical media. The Pirate Bay is where it's at.
 
Re: urces (c) TV shows over 39 years old?

Bah physical media. The Pirate Bay is where it's at.

Using a public tracker like the pirate bay should be a last resort type thing. Hopefully the people using it are also using something like peerblock
 
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