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Universal background checks

Do you support universal background checks?


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Universal background checks moving closer to a Senate vote:

"Senate Democrats said Thursday they will take up gun control immediately after a two-week Easter vacation, and said the bill they’ll bring to the chamber floor will include universal background checks for all firearms sales and a crackdown on gun trafficking and straw purchases.

The background checks are the biggest sticking point — Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said he will include a strict measure written by Sen. Charles E. Schumer, New York Democrat, rather than wait for a bipartisan compromise to emerge.

Mr. Reid said he is open to substituting that compromise if it’s reached in time, but said the Senate bill will expand background checks either way.

“I want to be clear: In order to be effective, any bill that passes the Senate must include background checks,” he said.

He began the process of bringing the bill to the Senate floor Thursday, even as the chamber was debating its fiscal 2014 budget."

Stage set for Senate gun control debate; background checks are sticking point - Washington Times

He better hurry up. The public support for more gun control is waning...

Poll: Support for stricter gun control wanes - CBS News
 
The poll is nonsensicle. I can't vote "yes" or "no" without any details of how we would go about this.

Personally, I like tt's idea, but I doubt something this logical will ever make it to the Senate.

This is not a valid yes/no question!

It is like asking "Should we let kids eat ice cream?", yes ocassionally, but not all of the time and no if they are allergic. ;)

This is not a valid poll question since it does not say: HOW these BG checks are done, WHERE these BG checks are done or the USER COST of these BG checks. I support doing these "universal" BG checks ONCE per citizen, upon issue, renewal or update of their state issued, photo IDs by adding a "GUN OK" designation if the NICS database check so indicates. I do not support doing them only at FFL dealers for each gun/ammo sale and at a cost of $35 to $50 per sale.
 
There are CURRENT back ground checks really dont have any impact on rhe criminals who disobey them.

Most criminals do not buy their guns after passing a background checks, if that is what you think. Only the far right believe that background checks do not deter purchase of guns by criminals and the mentally deranged.
 
Most criminals do not buy their guns after passing a background checks, if that is what you think. Only the far right believe that background checks do not deter purchase of guns by criminals and the mentally deranged.

I think the key word here is purchase. Most criminals obtain their guns by going different routes than go through a background check. I do not know how background checks will effect the mentally ill. Especially when their medical records aren't public. I suppose a mentally ill patient found to be not all there by the courts would be caught, but not the rest.
 
I think the key word here is purchase. Most criminals obtain their guns by going different routes than go through a background check.

Because background checks are a good deterrent from buying them from a dealer. And many of the guns on the street come from gun show purchases without a background check in 40 states.


I do not know how background checks will effect the mentally ill. Especially when their medical records aren't public. I suppose a mentally ill patient found to be not all there by the courts would be caught, but not the rest.

The plan is to do a better job of networking into the NICS system what mental instability background that can be released and extending the background check requirement to gun sales in all the states.
 
Because background checks are a good deterrent from buying them from a dealer. And many of the guns on the street come from gun show purchases without a background check in 40 states.




The plan is to do a better job of networking into the NICS system what mental instability background that can be released and extending the background check requirement to gun sales in all the states.

Might work, time will tell I guess.
 
Although I personally do not feel that as a responsible gun owner with no criminal background that I should be intimidated by or otherwise worried by a background check, and I would likely extend this thought to the majority of law-abiding citizens that happen to be gun owners, I take a couple issues with universal background checks. The constitutionality of universal background checks is in question, and we have yet to hear what the government would do with the information they gained from a background check. On the mental health front, there has been no indication as to what might define a mental illness that would prevent an otherwise law-abiding individual from exercising their right, and it also opens up the door for discrimination.
 
Although I personally do not feel that as a responsible gun owner with no criminal background that I should be intimidated by or otherwise worried by a background check, and I would likely extend this thought to the majority of law-abiding citizens that happen to be gun owners, I take a couple issues with universal background checks. The constitutionality of universal background checks is in question, and we have yet to hear what the government would do with the information they gained from a background check. On the mental health front, there has been no indication as to what might define a mental illness that would prevent an otherwise law-abiding individual from exercising their right, and it also opens up the door for discrimination.


Well, may as well do nothing than, right? Just keep selling guns to criminals and the mentally deranged in 40 states...............
 
Vast Majority Supports Universal Background Checks For Gun Purchases

"A new poll finds that the vast majority of Americans support universal background checks for all gun purchases:

A new poll shows 88 percent of all Americans support universal background checks on the purchase of firearms, evidence of strong political backing ahead of votes on Senate gun control bill that would expand the practice.

The survey, published Friday by Quinnipiac University, showed that 83 percent of Republicans and 96 percent of Democrats supported universal background checks. Eighty-eighty percent of independents supported expansion of background checks, while 91 percent of women and 85 percent of men backed the practice.

Support was consistent across every racial, economic, education, and religious category, with no group showing lower than 85 percent support for closing the so-called “gun show loophole.” Even 85 percent of households that already own a gun supported the practice."

Vast Majority Supports Universal Background Checks For Gun Purchases
 
I wonder how they would respond if they were told

while there is no constitutional basis for the federal government to order such checks do you support them

DO you support such checks even though the same laws applied to licensed dealers were found not to have any useful impact on crime rates

Do you support such checks because gun restrictionists want to use them to register all privately held firearms
 
I wonder how they would respond if they were told

while there is no constitutional basis for the federal government to order such checks do you support them

DO you support such checks even though the same laws applied to licensed dealers were found not to have any useful impact on crime rates

Do you support such checks because gun restrictionists want to use them to register all privately held firearms



Obviously, the great majority of Americans, including 85% of gun owners, are not buying your far right wing talking points.
 
Obviously, the great majority of Americans, including 85% of gun owners, are not buying your far right wing talking points.

obviously the majority of people who "support" such things are low information voters who are not fully informed of the essential facts concerning this nonsense.

the far wrong banks on ignorance and low intelligence
 
obviously the majority of people who "support" such things are low information voters who are not fully informed of the essential facts concerning this nonsense.

the far wrong banks on ignorance and low intelligence


The truly delusional think everyone else is wrong and they are right. Carry on!
 
The truly delusional think everyone else is wrong and they are right. Carry on!

the low wattage argument is that if the masses feel one way in a slanted poll that means they are always right. I guess using your logic gay marriage is wrong (in California) and more people than not want a republican congressman
 
the low wattage argument is that if the masses feel one way in a slanted poll that means they are always right. I guess using your logic gay marriage is wrong (in California) and more people than not want a republican congressman


85% of gun owners support background checks for all gun sales. Show me the 85% of Californians that don't support gay marriage?
 
85% of gun owners support background checks for all gun sales. Show me the 85% of Californians that don't support gay marriage?

I told you I couldn't care. there is no proper constitutional basis for the federal government to mandate these checks which-by law-only involve INTRASTATE activity
 
I told you I couldn't care. there is no proper constitutional basis for the federal government to mandate these checks which-by law-only involve INTRASTATE activity

Having your point refuted, you move on to the subject of another thread! LOL!
 
Having your point refuted, you move on to the subject of another thread! LOL!

Since when have I cared about slanted polls and low wattage respondents. Your only argument is one based on an appeal to mediocrity

tell us Catawba-given your expansive understanding of constitutional law-how is this proposed law going to get past LOPEZ and what exactly is the connection to INTERSTATE COMMERCE given that I can only sell a personal weapon to someone who lives in my own state?
 
You are bringing up a separate issue, whether the 10% - 15% of those that oppose background checks are right or not. That has nothing to do with the poll results that show 85% - 90% of voters support background checks for all gun sales.

And yet you, and those like you continueally quote that poll in order to try and use it to support making a law that, depending on how it is implemented could be construed as unconstitutional? Sorry but Federalist was not only right when he stated "Isn't the idea of a constitutional republic supposed to be that the rights of the minority are protected against the whims of the majority?" but he was also right on target.
 
There is simply no need for an Amendment since there is only a small percentage that believe background checks are an infringement of 2nd Amendment rights.

So if 90% of the people wanted Christianity and only Christianity to be taught in all public schools then we can just ignore the Constitution? God you spout a ton of idiocy.
 
Since when have I cared about slanted polls and low wattage respondents. Your only argument is one based on an appeal to mediocrity

tell us Catawba-given your expansive understanding of constitutional law-how is this proposed law going to get past LOPEZ and what exactly is the connection to INTERSTATE COMMERCE given that I can only sell a personal weapon to someone who lives in my own state?

How do you prove that gun does not cross state lines once you sell it?
 
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