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Universal background checks

Do you support universal background checks?

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TurtleDude said:
that's because unlike you, they understand the ramifications of such idiocy
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Catawba said:
90% of voters and 85% of gun owners agree with my position. Only the NRA leadership agrees with your position.
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I am not one of the leadership of the NRA. In fact, I am currently not a member of the NRA at all, nor in any way associated therewith. And I agree with Turtledude's position. There are many, many more like me, much more than the 10% to 15% that you claim.

Repeating the same far wrong lie over and over again will not imbue it with even the faintest vestige of truth, and neither will modifying it as you have recently done. It's still, at its core, the same lie that has already been solidly disproven.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
There are many, many more like me, much more than the 10% to 15% that you claim.
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If you think so, post any credible national poll that backs up your claim that more than 10% - 15% oppose background checks for all gun buyers.
 
Catawba said:
If you think so, post any credible national poll that backs up your claim that more than 10% - 15% oppose background checks for all gun buyers.
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you have never told us what information people have

if they were told that there was no way to enforce the law, that it is designed to fail so people like you-who want to ban guns-can demand registration and since it does not apply to criminals seeking to sell stolen or illegal weapons, I suspect you would have far different numbers
 
TurtleDude said:
you have never told us what information people have

if they were told that there was no way to enforce the law, that it is designed to fail so people like you-who want to ban guns-can demand registration and since it does not apply to criminals seeking to sell stolen or illegal weapons, I suspect you would have far different numbers
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Only the far right believe it can't be enforced.
 
Catawba said:
Only the far right believe it can't be enforced.
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the far wrong are so deluded that they cannot even fashion an argument on how those who own guns illegally are going to engage in background checks
 
TurtleDude said:
the far wrong are so deluded that they cannot even fashion an argument on how those who own guns illegally are going to engage in background checks
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One more time, the purpose the proposal is to prevent felons or the mentally deranged from simply walking into gun shows in 40 states and exchanging cash for a gun with no questions asked.
 
Catawba said:
One more time, the purpose the proposal is to prevent felons or the mentally deranged from simply walking into gun shows in 40 states and exchanging cash for a gun with no questions asked.
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how do you know there are no questions asked. I have seen hundreds of such transactions and almost every time the seller asks for a driver's license

you have a duty not to sell to someone who is not from the state you live in
 
TurtleDude said:
how do you know there are no questions asked. I have seen hundreds of such transactions and almost every time the seller asks for a driver's license

you have a duty not to sell to someone who is not from the state you live in
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Without a requirement, there is no incentive for the private seller to ask a lot of questions. He would both lose sales and risk being jailed for knowingly selling a weapon to someone that shouldn't have one. Most voters think its a bad idea to continue to allow private gun sales without a background check.

 
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Catawba said:
Without a requirement, there is no incentive for the private seller to ask a lot of questions. He would both lose sales and risk being jailed for knowingly selling a weapon to someone that shouldn't have one. Most voters think its a bad idea to continue to allow private gun sales without a background check.
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Agreed.

And that - once again is the bottom line.

It is what most Americans - the vast majority of most Americans - appear to want.

And until the pro-gun lobbyists can prove otherwise, their arguments are totally irrelevent.

Or are they now saying that the will of the people should be ignored?
 
DA60 said:
Agreed.

And that - once again is the bottom line.

It is what most Americans - the vast majority of most Americans - appear to want.

And until the pro-gun lobbyists can prove otherwise, their arguments are totally irrelevent.

Or are they now saying that the will of the people should be ignored?
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They just flat out deny all the national polls that prove public support. Despite the overwhelming evidence otherwise, they think most people agree with them!
 
Catawba said:
Without a requirement, there is no incentive for the private seller to ask a lot of questions. He would both lose sales and risk being jailed for knowingly selling a weapon to someone that shouldn't have one. Most voters think its a bad idea to continue to allow private gun sales without a background check.

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most voters are clueless about the issue. Then again ignorance is the best ally the far wrong has. I certainly would ascertain someone's residence and I would write down their DL # just to cover my own ass

BTW that is not a Maadi Assault rifle. You cannot buy a Maadi Assault rifle in the USA unless a Title II manufacturer modified it to full auto prior to May 19, 1986 and registered it.
 
Catawba said:
They just flat out deny all the national polls that prove public support. Despite the overwhelming evidence otherwise, they think most people agree with them!
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why do you constantly squawk poll numbers? they don't prove you are right. It just proves there are many people who know as little about the subject as your posts suggest
 
TurtleDude said:
why do you constantly squawk poll numbers? they don't prove you are right. It just proves there are many people who know as little about the subject as your posts suggest
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I only bring them up to the far right who still deny overwhelming public support for background checks for all gun sales.
 
Catawba said:
I only bring them up to the far right who still deny overwhelming public support for background checks for all gun sales.
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the far wrong won't explain how those will actually help things given that the brady requirements did not increase public safety

and since you are on record for wanting complete gun bans, we'd be fools to support anything you support when it comes to guns
 
TurtleDude said:
the far wrong won't explain how those will actually help things given that the brady requirements did not increase public safety

and since you are on record for wanting complete gun bans, we'd be fools to support anything you support when it comes to guns
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Its been shown to the far right many times and they reject it.
 
Catawba said:
Its been shown to the far right many times and they reject it.
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no it hasn't. we have you parrot squawking polls and no one has come close to showing these new laws will do a damn thing
 
TurtleDude said:
no it hasn't. we have you parrot squawking polls and no one has come close to showing these new laws will do a damn thing
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That is only a consensus among the far right.
 
Catawba said:
That is only a consensus among the far right.
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until you can prove that

1) your desire for more gun laws is not part of your desire for complete gun bans

2) that these proposed laws will actually decrease crime

we will reject the parrot squawks for more government control
 
TurtleDude said:
until you can prove that

1) your desire for more gun laws is not part of your desire for complete gun bans

2) that these proposed laws will actually decrease crime

we will reject the parrot squawks for more government control
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Did you think if you numbered your far right opinions they would seem more credible somehow? :lamo
 
Catawba said:
Did you think if you numbered your far right opinions they would seem more credible somehow? :lamo
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Numbered or not, far right opinions are inherently more credible than far wrong opinions. That's why we are the far right and you are the far wrong.
 
Catawba said:
Did you think if you numbered your far right opinions they would seem more credible somehow? :lamo
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nah my opinions are credible because I am both well educated on this subject and very smart. The far wrong tends to be neither
 
TurtleDude said:
nah my opinions are credible because I am both well educated on this subject and very smart. The far wrong tends to be neither
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Catawba said:
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lets take a poll catawba as to whom the posters believe is better educated on this subject

you don't even know what an assault rifle is or what the current laws are
 
TurtleDude said:
lets take a poll catawba as to whom the posters believe is better educated on this subject

you don't even know what an assault rifle is or what the current laws are
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Ha! This from the guy that doesn't believe in polls! :lamo

Oh, and unlike you, I know AR's have absolutely nothing to do with the background check proposal which is the subject of this thread! :cool:
 
Catawba said:
They are cheaper for criminals when they can buy them at gun shows. That's one of the reasons the great majority of voters support expanding background checks.
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Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Cheap guns at gun shows, that's some funny stuff right there!
 
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