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Universal background checks

Do you support universal background checks?

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trfjr said:
Run by the states and now that some of those states want to ban assault rifles they have a list to use to do so
And if you would have watch the video Canadian liberals and their government laughed at the people (just like you are) that said registry will lead to confiscation
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Thanks for the far right opinion, which is shared by less than 15% of voters.
 
Catawba said:
Thanks for the far right opinion, which is shared by less than 15% of voters.
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And if the low information voters where educated on the facts, on the history that registry will lead to confiscation im sure they would change their answer
This is why the liberal media is so dangerous because the will purposely keep the low information voter ignorant of facts and history that doesn't fit their narrative
 
trfjr said:
And if the low information voters where educated on the facts, on the history that registry will lead to confiscation im sure they would change their answer
This is why the liberal media is so dangerous because the will purposely keep the low information voter ignorant of facts and history that doesn't fit their narrative
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:lamo
 
Catawba said:
Can't find a poll to back up your far right opinion, eh?
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Don't need one. A poll, nor the supreme court makes you right. If that were the case, slavery would have never been outlawed.
 
trfjr said:
did they not confiscate guns from Germans after they had a national gun registry? did they not confiscate guns from Russians after they had a nation gun registry? Why dont you ask a Canadian today about gun confiscation going on right now and their government is able to do so because of a national guns registry



people need to familiarize themselves with the difference between a fact and an opinion
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As far as anti-2nd amendment tards are concerned you are paranoid right wing extremist for opposing a universal background check and registrations even though these things have been used for confiscation in other countries.
 
jamesrage said:
As far as anti-2nd amendment tards are concerned you are paranoid right wing extremist for opposing a universal background check and registrations even though these things have been used for confiscation in other countries.
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If you don't learn from mistakes made by others you will make them your self.
if you don't learn from lies in the past you will believe in that same lie in the future
 
trfjr said:
If you don't learn from mistakes made by others you will make them your self.
if don't learn from lies in the past you will believe in that same lie in the future
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We don't even have to look at other countries where firearm registries are used to confiscate firearms or proposed laws to confiscate firearms.


GunCite - Gun Control: gun registration;firearm registration
Even in the United States, registration has been used to outlaw and confiscate firearms. In New York City, a registration system enacted in 1967 for long guns, was used in the early 1990s to confiscate lawfully owned semiautomatic rifles and shotguns. [SIZE=-1](Same source as previous paragraph)[/SIZE] The New York City Council banned firearms that had been classified by the city as "assault weapons." This was done despite the testimony of Police Commissioner Lee Brown that no registered "assault weapon" had been used in a violent crime in the city. The 2,340 New Yorkers who had registered their firearms were notified that these firearms had to be surrendered, rendered inoperable, or taken out of the city. [SIZE=-1] (NRA/ILA Fact Sheet: Firearms Registration: New York City's Lesson)[/SIZE]
More recently, California revoked a grace period for the registration of certain rifles (SKS Sporters) and declared that any such weapons registered during that period were illegal. [SIZE=-1] (California Penal Code, Chapter 2.3, Roberti-Ross Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989 section 12281(f) )[/SIZE] In addition, California has prohibited certain semi-automatic long-rifles and pistols. Those guns currently owned, must be registered, and upon the death of the owner, either surrendered or moved out of state. [SIZE=-1](FAQ #13 from the California DOJ Firearms Division Page)[/SIZE]



California's state Senate Democrats roll out big gun control package - San Jose Mercury News
The 10-bill package constitutes the single largest gun control push in decades in the Golden State, which already boasts some of the nation's strictest gun laws. It joins equally controversial proposals from Assembly Democrats that would regulate and tax ammunition sales and consider taking the state's 166,000 registered assault weapons from their owners.
 
Catawba said:
Only the far right believe that background checks for a gun purchase violates the 4th Amendment, which is why in its 19 years of existence it has never been ruled to be unconstitutional.
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You're so far out of the mainstream that to you, the vast majority of Americans are “far right”. I'd certainly rather be on the “far right” side with most Americans than on the ”far wrong” side with you.
 
Catawba said:
90% of the country understands why it matters and my guess is the remaining 10% will never get it!
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Why are some people against universal background checks? What makes this any different than background checks for other reasons?
 
Bob Blaylock said:
You're so far out of the mainstream that to you, the vast majority of Americans are “far right”.
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You keep saying this as if you have yet been able to provide a poll that shows anything other than marginal opposition to background checks.
 
Glowpun said:
Why are some people against universal background checks? What makes this any different than background checks for other reasons?
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Less than 15% of voters are against universal background checks. But I have no idea why a few people think they are different from background checks for other reasons?
 
Bob Blaylock said:
Look at the top of this page.
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You are kidding right? You would put more stock in a political forum poll over the Pew Research Center, Gallup and all the other polling organizations? Ha! So much for your credibility!
 
longview said:
Earlier in this discussion ttwtt78640 had an idea that everyone when they got their
Drivers license, would have a background check, if you passed, you got field entry on your
license saying YES this person is allowed to buy guns, or NO gun sales allowed.
Within about 6 years every adult, and all new drivers would be checked.
This would also eliminate Government excuses for keeping some background check info.

ttwtt78640 I apologize for my poor stating of your idea!
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There's already a kind of permit which exempts you from NICS at the point of sale, and it checks you're background a hell of a lot more often then once every 6 years.

Try every day.

If I take my DD214 to the sheriffs department I can have a similar icon placed on my drivers licence which lets others know I'm a veteran. It's a measure to prevent identity theft. Any entity which would need proof of my vet status can look at the icon instead of the very sensitive DD214. Same thing here. Simply manifest this permit as an icon on the drivers licence instead of a separate card. Same fees, same standards, same everything, only it's an icon instead of a card. No problem. If people want to tac on a 4/16/20/40hr class to that, great, but I'll expect to be able to buy modern assault rifles and never register them in return for the hassle.
 
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I told you it was just above. Too much work to look back eh?

Here you go.



All the polls show the same results. In fact, I challenge you to find a single national poll that shows a majority of voters oppose background checks for all potential gun buyers. I'll wait.

Bob Blaylock said:
Look at the top of this page.
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Universal background checks. That is what is being discussed. Do you have anything to add to the discussion?
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Catawba said:
Bob Blaylock said:
Catawba said:
You keep saying this as if you have yet been able to provide a poll that shows anything other than marginal opposition to background checks.
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Look at the top of this page.
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You are kidding right? You would put more stock in a political forum poll over the Pew Research Center, Gallup and all the other polling organizations? Ha! So much for your credibility!
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At least twice—as quoted above—you've put forth the challenge to find a poll that fails to show public opinion being universally in favor of these background checks. You did not specify the size of the sample, the organization conduction the poll, or the methodology. You once specified that the poll be “national”.

The poll being conducted in this very thread meets the one criterion that you've specified. The certainty that not everyone who has responded to this poll is from the same state or the same local area makes it a “national” poll. Admittedly, the sample size is awfully small, but you didn't specify anything about sample size. In the time that I have been watching it, the results have fluctuated somewhat, between slightly less than 60% and slightly more than 70% opposed to the background checks. At no time has it failed to show a solid majority opposed to the background checks.

The sample size is too small to solidly make a claim that this reflects the opinion of the American public, but it is certainly enough to refute the lie that you keep repeating over and over again about there being 90% support for these background checks. It's a lie, it ha been proven to be such, and if you wish to retain any vestige of credibility, then you will stop repeating it.
 
Glowpun said:
Why are some people against universal background checks? What makes this any different than background checks for other reasons?
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Would you be OK with having to take and pass a government background check before you are allowed to join a church? How about to publish a newspaper, or to express your opinion here on an Internet forum?

Are you OK with government establishing who is and who is not allowed to exercise explicitly-affirmed Constitutional rights, and requiring everyone to prove that they are among the “allowed” group before they may exercise them?

I, most certainly, am not OK with this— not with any of my Constitutional rights, and most certainly not with the one right over which government has most solidly and indisputably proven that it cannot be trusted with any power or authority.
 
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Not a single one of you can present a national poll showing any kind of significant opposition to background checks for all gun buyers.
 
Catawba said:
Not a single one of you can present a national poll showing any kind of significant opposition to background checks for all gun buyers.
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Quite simply (as I have stated repeatedly) until the legislation is written and polled the only one is that which you hang your hat on and is the mere polling of a concept. I predict that if/when the bill gets written AND includes registration your 90% figure will plummet…care to wager?
 
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Did making marijuana stop people from growing and consuming? People are so stupid when it comes to guns
 
Dickieboy said:
Quite simply (as I have stated repeatedly) until the legislation is written and polled the only one is that which you hang your hat on and is the mere polling of a concept. I predict that if/when the bill gets written AND includes registration your 90% figure will plummet…care to wager?
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What do you think will feasibly be passed that is more restrictive than what 90% of voters have supported, background checks for all gun buyers? If you have been keeping up with the bipartisan bills in Congress you would realize that what is likely to get passed is simply and expansion of the NICS system to include private gun sellers.

So where is the public opposition to expanding background checks? Not even a single solitary national poll? I didn't think so.
 
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