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Universal background checks

Do you support universal background checks?

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apdst said:
My 4th Amendment rights. It's not the business of a Wal-Mart associate, when they run a background check on me.
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Who ruled that the 19 year old law requiring background checks was an infringement of 4th Amendment rights?
 
Shadow Serious said:
I'm not confused about the subject but merely made an observation that the participants on the CBS poll might not have understood what that poll question meant and on the PEW poll there is a question on the undisclosed questions may have influenced the poll. Even if there is popular support for background checks the type of implementation and the cost on the other hand may render it less popular. Also I do not need to show a contrarian poll but show the methodology in these polls render the results as questionable.
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Well thanks for your far right opinion. Now do you have a poll that backs up your opinion that background checks for all gun buyers is not supported by 85% - 90%? Because if you don't, all you have is your far right opinion.
 
Catawba said:
Well thanks for your far right opinion. Now do you have a poll that backs up your opinion that background checks for all gun buyers is not supported by 85% - 90%? Because if you don't, all you have is your far right opinion.
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Please do not call me far right. I'm a libertarian and I do not believe in big government and I believe it should be decentralized as much as possible. I do not need to show a counter poll all I have to show is the methodology that the pro polls used was wrong to make them non-valid.
 
Shadow Serious said:
Please do not call me far right. I'm a libertarian and I do not believe in big government and I believe it should be decentralized as much as possible. I do not need to show a counter poll all I have to show is the methodology that the pro polls used was wrong to make them non-valid.
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Libertarians are further right than Republicans on gun control. If you do not wish to be called far right, don't espouse far right views. If can not provide a single poll that backs up your opinion of public support, all you have is your far right opinion which is shared by less than 15% of voters.
 
Catawba said:
Libertarians are further right than Republicans on gun control. If you do not wish to be called far right, don't espouse far right views. If can not provide a single poll that backs up your opinion of public support, all you have is your far right opinion which is shared by less than 15% of voters.
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The right/left spectrum does not apply to American Politics. This originated in Europe where different factions wanted to control the government. Libertarians want as little government as possible and want the control to be spread out as much as possible. Again I do not need a counter poll if such as one exists, I just need to show the poll is not valid due to the methodology that was used. One example is that in the PEW poll the majority of the polled were not parents (non parents 1140 to parents 357) and is thus is skewed to households that do not have children in them. On the surface that shouldn't affect results on the question but does mean the methodology used caused the sample to be skewed. And if it is skewed where it is obvious then it may be skewed where it is less obvious.
 
Shadow Serious said:
The right/left spectrum does not apply to American Politics. This originated in Europe where different factions wanted to control the government. Libertarians want as little government as possible and want the control to be spread out as much as possible. Again I do not need a counter poll if such as one exists, I just need to show the poll is not valid due to the methodology that was used. One example is that in the PEW poll the majority of the polled were not parents (non parents 1140 to parents 357) and is thus is skewed to households that do not have children in them. On the surface that shouldn't affect results on the question but does mean the methodology used caused the sample to be skewed. And if it is skewed where it is obvious then it may be skewed where it is less obvious.
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Thanks for your far right opinion of public support that you are unable to back up with proof! :cool:
 
Catawba said:
Ridiculous argument! Who does "all potential gun buyers" not cover?
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Everyone is a “potential gun buyer”. Everyone who might ever buy a gun, even those who have no current plans to do so. So, should government have the authority to conduct background checks on everyone? So much for the Fourth Amendment. But then I suppose it would be foolish to assume that you care about the Fourth Amendment or the rest of the Bill of Rights any more than you care about the Second Amendment.
 
Catawba said:
I told you it was just above. Too much work to look back eh?

Here you go.



All the polls show the same results. In fact, I challenge you to find a single national poll that shows a majority of voters oppose background checks for all potential gun buyers. I'll wait.
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Look at the top of this page.
 
Catawba said:
Who ruled that the 19 year old law requiring background checks was an infringement of 4th Amendment rights?
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Someone has to rule it to be an infringement of the 4th Amendment for me to have an opinion?

In case you haven't noticed, I'm not a Liberal...I'm able to think for myself.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
Look at the top of this page.
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Universal background checks. That is what is being discussed. Do you have anything to add to the discussion?
 
Bob Blaylock said:
Everyone is a “potential gun buyer”. Everyone who might ever buy a gun, even those who have no current plans to do so. So, should government have the authority to conduct background checks on everyone? So much for the Fourth Amendment. But then I suppose it would be foolish to assume that you care about the Fourth Amendment or the rest of the Bill of Rights any more than you care about the Second Amendment.
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Only the far right believe that background checks for a gun purchase violates the 4th Amendment, which is why in its 19 years of existence it has never been ruled to be unconstitutional.
 
apdst said:
Someone has to rule it to be an infringement of the 4th Amendment for me to have an opinion?

In case you haven't noticed, I'm not a Liberal...I'm able to think for myself.
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You are entitled to your far right opinion that background checks are unconstitutional but unless the Courts rule that they are, your opinion remains just your opinion.
 
Catawba said:
You are entitled to your far right opinion that background checks are unconstitutional but unless the Courts rule that they are, your opinion remains just your opinion.
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An opinion that carries just as much weight as your's, my friend.
 
apdst said:
An opinion that carries just as much weight as your's, my friend.
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My opinion is shared by 90% of voters and the supreme court.
 
Catawba said:
My opinion is shared by 90% of voters and the supreme court.
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Universal back ground checks leads to universal registry which leads to universal confiscation just ask the Russians the Germans hell just ask a Canadian
 
Catawba said:
My opinion is shared by 90% of voters and the supreme court.
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90%? You still believe that bull**** poll?

Is it constitutional to ban gay marriage? The voters think so. The Supreme Court upheld slavery and Jim Crow laws. See the problem with your argument?
 
trfjr said:
Universal back ground checks leads to universal registry which leads to universal confiscation just ask the Russians the Germans hell just ask a Canadian
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More far right opinion. Gee thanks!
 
apdst said:
90%? You still believe that bull**** poll?
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All the national polls show basically the same results as evidenced by your inability to provide a poll that shows significant opposition to background checks for all gun buyers.
 
Catawba said:
All the national polls show basically the same results as evidenced by your inability to provide a poll that shows significant opposition to background checks for all gun buyers.
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Jim Crow laws were supported by a majority, too. Think we should have held onto those?
 
apdst said:
Jim Crow laws were supported by a majority, too. Think we should have held onto those?
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Can't find a poll to back up your far right opinion, eh?
 
Catawba said:
More far right opinion. Gee thanks!
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did they not confiscate guns from Germans after they had a national gun registry? did they not confiscate guns from Russians after they had a nation gun registry? Why dont you ask a Canadian today about gun confiscation going on right now and their government is able to do so because of a national guns registry



people need to familiarize themselves with the difference between a fact and an opinion
 
trfjr said:
did they not confiscate guns from Germans after they had a national gun registry? did they not confiscate guns from Russians after they had a nation gun registry? Why dont you ask a Canadian today about gun confiscation going on right now and their government is able to do so because of a national guns registry



people need to familiarize themselves with the difference between a fact and an opinion
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Thanks for the far right opinion! Back in reality here, we have had 19 years of background checks without confiscation of guns.
 
Catawba said:
Thanks for the far right opinion! Back in reality here, we have had 19 years of background checks without confiscation of guns.
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Run by the states and now that some of those states want to ban assault rifles they have a list to use to do so
And if you would have watch the video Canadian liberals and their government laughed at the people (just like you are) that said registry will lead to confiscation
 
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