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Universal background checks

Do you support universal background checks?


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What makes you possibly think that criminals are not taking advantage of the cheap and easy gun purchases at gun shows and online? Our goal is to make it more difficult and expensive for criminals to get guns than merely strolling into a gun show, plopping down some cash, and walking out with a gun.

These are people who are STEALING guns and buying them on the black market! Geez, you people are delusional.
 
These are people who are STEALING guns and buying them on the black market! Geez, you people are delusional.

As most of us are aware and law enforcement has explained, many of the guns on the black market come from private sellers at gun shows and online.
 
What makes you possibly think that criminals are not taking advantage of the cheap and easy gun purchases at gun shows and online? Our goal is to make it more difficult and expensive for criminals to get guns than merely strolling into a gun show, plopping down some cash, and walking out with a gun.
more speculation on your part

a DOJ study of actual criminals who had weapons indicated less than 1% got their guns at a gun show
 
As most of us are aware and law enforcement has explained, many of the guns on the black market come from private sellers at gun shows and online.

that is a lie-online gun sales have to be through a FFL
 
that is a lie-online gun sales have to be through a FFL

What laws prevent someone from placing an ad online to sell a gun privately without a background check?
 
What laws prevent someone from placing an ad online to sell a gun privately without a background check?

that isn't a sale online. that would be a sale in person.
 
more speculation on your part

a DOJ study of actual criminals who had weapons indicated less than 1% got their guns at a gun show


"At some shows in Reno,
Nevada, which is a short distance across the border, more than 30% of the
vehicles in the parking lot were
from California (Wintemute 2007). Such undermining
of more rigorous regulation in some states by lack of regulation in
others has long been an argument for more rigorous regulation at the federal
level. However, an unexpected finding suggests diffusion of benefit. Though surrogate, or “straw man,” purchases are illegal nationwide under federal law,
they were
more than six times as common in the comparison states as in
California (Wintemute 2007).


Commenting on this study, Shooting Sports Retailer, a firearm industry trade
magazine, agreed that “there is some evidence that gun shows with restrictive
regulations mandating background checks have less illegal activity than shows
in states or jurisdictions without this requirement” (Matthews 2009)."


From the Report: Reducing Gun Violence in America - UC Davis Health System

www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/.../webster%20reducing%20gun%20violence%20in%20america%20chapter%..
 
"At some shows in Reno,
Nevada, which is a short distance across the border, more than 30% of the
vehicles in the parking lot were
from California (Wintemute 2007). Such undermining
of more rigorous regulation in some states by lack of regulation in
others has long been an argument for more rigorous regulation at the federal
level. However, an unexpected finding suggests diffusion of benefit. Though surrogate, or “straw man,” purchases are illegal nationwide under federal law,
they were
more than six times as common in the comparison states as in
California (Wintemute 2007).


Commenting on this study, Shooting Sports Retailer, a firearm industry trade
magazine, agreed that “there is some evidence that gun shows with restrictive
regulations mandating background checks have less illegal activity than shows
in states or jurisdictions without this requirement” (Matthews 2009)."


www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/.../webster%20reducing%20gun%20violence%20in%20america%20chapter%..

I go to gun shows monthly. I may have bought one gun in the last two years at one

the rest of your post is speculation
 
that isn't a sale online. that would be a sale in person.

That doesn't change the fact that guns being advertised online are being bought without a background check.
 
What laws prevent someone from placing an ad online to sell a gun privately without a background check?

So you don't know how all this works then?

1) you put the ad online.

2)Someone responds. Pays through pay pal or whatever.

Only 2 ways to get that gun.

3a) private transfer between 2 people.

3b) mail it.

3b requires an FFL by law.

A law is in place. If it isn't working...we don't need more laws. We need enforcement of the law on the book.
 
I go to gun shows monthly. I may have bought one gun in the last two years at one

the rest of your post is speculation


Fortunately, most of the country puts more stock in the statistics than we do far right opinion.
 
Fortunately, most of the country puts more stock in the statistics than we do far right opinion.

:lol: One of the funniest post I've seen recently. Most of the country couldn't define statistics, and many are now more concerned about American Idol than even recall Newtown...
 
So you don't know how all this works then?

1) you put the ad online.

2)Someone responds. Pays through pay pal or whatever.

Only 2 ways to get that gun.

3a) private transfer between 2 people.

3b) mail it.

3b requires an FFL by law.

A law is in place. If it isn't working...we don't need more laws. We need enforcement of the law on the book.


Nope, as the New York stink documented, investigators contacted the numbers listed for guns being advertised for sale online, arranged to meet with the seller and exchanged cash for the guns, no background check, no questions.
 
Nope, as the New York stink documented, investigators contacted the numbers listed for guns being advertised for sale online, arranged to meet with the seller and exchanged cash for the guns, no background check, no questions.

That is a private sale. Do you not understand what a private sale is?
 
That is a private sale. Do you not understand what a private sale is?

Yep, that is what the bipartisan background check law being proposed is to address, private sales, including gun shows, flea markets, and private sellers advertising online.
 
Yep, that is what the bipartisan background check law being proposed is to address, private sales, including gun shows, flea markets, and private sellers advertising online.

Then you clearly don't understand private sales.
 
Roughly ninety percent of Americans support universal background checks. Do you?

As long as universal gun registry does not go along with the checks. but that is the problem you can never keep that from happening because if you have universal checks you will have universal registry

Universal back ground checks leads to universal registry which leads to universal confiscation just ask the Russians the Germans hell just ask a Canadian
 
I seriously question that figure. I don't consider a CBS poll to necessarily be unbiased and credible either.

I checked the questions that were asked. The questions were rather general and thus vague on what the meant. The first one, "Do you favor or oppose a federal law requiring background checks on all potential gunbuyers[sic]?", is not clear that would involve private purchases.
 
I checked the questions that were asked. The questions were rather general and thus vague on what the meant. The first one, "Do you favor or oppose a federal law requiring background checks on all potential gunbuyers[sic]?", is not clear that would involve private purchases.

Check out the poll by the most respected polling organization I referenced above:

"More than eight-in-ten gun owners support proposals to require background checks on private gun sales and at gun shows."
 
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