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Universal background checks

Do you support universal background checks?

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Arbo said:
You are off base... AGAIN. Since you won't do your own homework...

http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/10C13.txt





It's the law, deal with it. You are WRONG.
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Hello? Where did I say it was not the law? I never did.

I said how the 2nd Amendment was intended (IMO) and how it should be interpreted.

Duh.

The 2nd Amendment is from 1791.

The Militia Act you are quoting from is from 1903.

Congress could decide that a fetus is eligible for military service. Or a 12 year old.

If Congress said 12 year olds are eligible for military service, would you think it fine that they carry guns?

Do you always defend what the law says? Or just the ones that further your cause?


I could care less how Congress has decided to prevert the Constitution.

Nor do I care if the SCOTUS goes along with the perversion of said Constitution.

There are tons of ridiculous laws that I do not sgree with.

And Congress forcing every able-bodied adult to do their military dirty work is one of them.

The military should always be volunteer - never a draft.

The last thing I would want is to go into combat with a bunch of draftees who are only there because they have no choice.

The only people that should not have to pass a background check for firearms are active duty military personnel (and cops, etc.).



And I will ask you again - you mentioned falsehood before. Were you accusing me of lying?

Yes or no?
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
Thank you. Yep. Requiring a valid, state issued, photo ID is only an undue, discriminatory burden (enacted by racists?) to keep minorities down when required for voting (in racist states?); in all other cases, such as buying prescription drugs, alcohol, tobacco, guns or ammo, or when cashing a check or lottery ticket, it is then simply a "reasonable restriction".
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It's notable that only two of the activities which you mention are Constitutionally-affirmed rights.
 
Catawba said:
Can you, or anyone else, recall any other proposed legislation in the last decade that had this much public support?
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Catawba said:
As many have noticed, it is only the far right opposed to background checks for gun sales. Did you miss the OP?
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DA60 said:
The 2nd Amendment is from 1791.

The Militia Act you are quoting from is from 1903.
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Meaning that for a change, something has remained consistent. That being that all citizens are the militia...

And I will ask you again - you mentioned falsehood before. Were you accusing me of lying?
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Based on your continued flow in one (wrong) direction regardless of reality, you are either being intellectually dishonest, or are incapable of incorporating facts into your decision making process.
 
Catawba said:
I am more optimistic, especially with more and more Republicans in Congress expressing their support of background checks. John McCain just joined other GOP senators supporting a bipartisan bill for expanded background checks. On the House side, your Congressional namesake, Peter King just recently went public with his support.

"A coalition of House Republicans is willing to thwart the National Rifle Association’s opposition to broadening background checks for U.S. gun purchases. Representatives Patrick Meehan and Michael Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania are among Republicans expressing openness to expanding the background-check system, including mandatory screening of buyers at gun shows. “We need to consider any option that will keep people safe,” Fitzpatrick said in an interview. "

"Representative Peter King of New York is another Republican who has said he supports universal background checks."

"The coalition of House Republicans is probably no larger than 40, according to advocates of tighter gun restrictions, though it may grow once such measures advance in Congress."

Gun Buyer Background Check Best Chance for New Limits - Bloomberg


John McCain: Background Checks Will Get Broad Support In Senate
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Just to maintain your excitement and optimism...

"Absolutely will not be record-keeping of legitimate, law-abiding gun owners,” Coburn told “Fox News Sunday.” “That will kill this bill.”

“I don’t think we’re that close,” Coburn also said.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...n-owners-will-kill-senate-bill/#ixzz2M11MfDgc

As stated multiple times, until the legislation is WRITTEN a poll on the concept is virtually useless.
 
Arbo said:
Meaning that for a change, something has remained consistent. That being that all citizens are the militia...
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Theoretically correct...in 1776...
Today, No citizen is qualified to be in a militia except the national guards......and the police of course.
 
earthworm said:
Theoretically correct...in 1776...
Today, No citizen is qualified to be in a militia except the national guards......and the police of course.
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And of course, you are WRONG. Because the 'militia' is STILL all of the people.

Oh nevermind, I see below this post you ramble on with the silly left wing thought that the Constitution is 'outdated'. That's no better than the mind set of truthers and the like.
 
I think perhaps all BG checks should be like CO, now that our CBI has caught up. Walk in, see gun, fill out papers, 8 1/2 minutes later approved, pay, leave store with gun.
 
earthworm said:
The possibility exists that our Constitution is outdated.
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If you think that any part of our Constitution is outdated, contact your elected representatives, and ask them to initiate the process of amending it to bring it up to date. Until any such Amendment is ratified, the Constitution stands as it is, as the highest law of the land, which government is obligated to fully obey.
 
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Catawba said:
In 40 states, private gun sellers can sell guns to customers without a background check.
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They can sell gun powder, gasoline, dangerous chemicals, and all sorts of other things without a BGC. Why do you single out only one item? Oh yeah, that's right ... AGENDA.
 
Arbo said:
They can sell gun powder, gasoline, dangerous chemicals, and all sorts of other things without a BGC. Why do you single out only one item? Oh yeah, that's right ... AGENDA.
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The difference being that 90% of the country thinks it is stupid to allow guns to be sold to criminals in 40 states.
 
Catawba said:
The difference being that 90% of the country thinks it is stupid to allow guns to be sold to criminals in 40 states.
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yeah, sure.

You realize there are already LAWS against such things... right?
 
Surtr said:
Kinda funny how a right requires a license. The US needs to decide whether we actually have a Constitution or not.
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Based on the last election, it seems less that half the country believes we have one.
 
Arbo said:
yeah, sure.

You realize there are already LAWS against such things... right?
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There are no laws preventing private sellers from selling guns without a background check in 40 states.
 
Catawba said:
There are no laws preventing private sellers from selling guns without a background check in 40 states.
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Ah, I see you've moved on from gun shows. Good work...
 
Catawba said:
There are no laws preventing private sellers from selling guns without a background check in 40 states.
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Oh to be young and uninformed...
 
Bob Blaylock said:
If you think that any part of our Constitution is outdated, contact your elected representatives, and ask them to initiate the process of amending it to bring it up to date. Until any such Amendment is ratified, the Constitution stands as it is, as the highest law of the land, which government is obligated to fully obey.
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Brilliant comment.
 
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