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Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?[W: 356]

Does "white privilege exist"?


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Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

LMAO

well im done addressing all this individually so ill just state the only thing that matters and that is on topic.

I read this whole post and it changes NOTHING, not one thing is changed by your post

this is all that is needed said to your nonsense and opinions

"white privileged factually exist"

let me know when you can prove otherwise. Like i said, ill never post again and ill give you 100$ through my paypal account :)

also if you dont like your posts being called a lie, dont post lies :shrug: simple solution

I did not lie at all I instead shared opinions on the subject. You did not agree with my opinions and to you that somehow makes them lies. That is a very strange twist of reality but whatever dude. ANd that offer of money is silliness as well and down right comical relief. The humor is that you want me to prove a claim that I was not making and I presume from this offer that you really do not understand sociology much. I made the claim that the terminology was incorrect and that the subject was much more complex than what is being presented by the proponents of the term "white privilege" are narrating. And from that all you can do is concentrate on whether you think that I am for or against the existence of "white privilege". All I tried to do was to dig deeper than the parroted conversations that exist around this subject and you just waved your arms in the air instead. Fine I get it you dont want to go in depth you only want a yes or no type of conversation. Oh well I tried....
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

I did not lie at all I instead shared opinions on the subject. You did not agree with my opinions and to you that somehow makes them lies. That is a very strange twist of reality but whatever dude. ANd that offer of money is silliness as well and down right comical relief. The humor is that you want me to prove a claim that I was not making and I presume from this offer that you really do not understand sociology much. I made the claim that the terminology was incorrect and that the subject was much more complex than what is being presented by the proponents of the term "white privilege" are narrating. And from that all you can do is concentrate on whether you think that I am for or against the existence of "white privilege". All I tried to do was to dig deeper than the parroted conversations that exist around this subject and you just waved your arms in the air instead. Fine I get it you dont want to go in depth you only want a yes or no type of conversation. Oh well I tried....

nope you lied about my words a couple times, seems you bias has you so bland you dont even know what you are reading, you have often tried to restate what i said and failed miserably they way you apply it and you do it so illogically.

you even do it here so bad, you make stuff up in your head that you think is true and its 100% false LMAO
heres examples:

1.)"You did not agree with my opinions and to you that somehow makes them lies."
100% false what i called lies were lies or they were ingorance of understanding what was actually said, pick one
havinf a different OPINION has nothing to do with lies

2.) I made the claim that the terminology was incorrect and that the subject was much more complex than what is being presented by the proponents of the term "white privilege" are narrating. And from that all you can do is concentrate on whether you think that I am for or against the existence of "white privilege".

wrong again, i dont care if you think or dont think it exists because it does, you believein git or not is meaningless to me.

3.)All I tried to do was to dig deeper than the parroted conversations that exist around this subject and you just waved your arms in the air instead. Fine I get it you dont want to go in depth you only want a yes or no type of conversation. Oh well I tried....

there no deep to go when the question is does it exist, theres only one factual answer and thats yes

when you asked if thing similar exist for OTHER groups my answer was yes but that has nothign to do with the topic, so thats not "going deeper", its trying to start a new topic

So again let me know when you can disprove the facts.

Of start a new thread and you can make that thread about anything you want
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

Growing up having nothing to do with any civil rights issues, discriminatory practices, etc, I feel pretty discriminated against when there are things like Black Entertainment Television, United Negro College Fund, Ebony Magazine, Black history month, etc etc etc. Could there be White Entertainment Television? United White College Fund? I don't think so. You can't even say 'black' anymore without someone accusing you of being racist. Companies have 'diversity' policies and will hire someone over you because of their skin color. Is that not blatant discrimination?
Assuming this isn't satire, the reason BET, Black History month, etc. exist is to fill the ABSENCE of black people in entertainment, societal conversations about history and the like. White people don't need a single channel dedicated to them because white people have nearly every other channel on television. It would be nonsensical for white people to have a "United White People College Fund" because white people have not been historically shut out of higher education. It would be nonsensical to have an "Ivory Magazine" because almost every other magazine primarily features white people.

Do you get it yet?
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

White History month is January, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December, and sometimes even February as well. :2razz:
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

White History month is January, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December, and sometimes even February as well. :2razz:
Considering that the entirety of the shortest month of the year thus far has consisted of white people raving about Abraham Lincoln while barely, if at all, acknowledging any of the black people who had a role in the end of slavery, that's the complete truth.
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

nope you lied about my words a couple times, seems you bias has you so bland you dont even know what you are reading, you have often tried to restate what i said and failed miserably they way you apply it and you do it so illogically.

you even do it here so bad, you make stuff up in your head that you think is true and its 100% false LMAO
heres examples:

1.)"You did not agree with my opinions and to you that somehow makes them lies."
100% false what i called lies were lies or they were ingorance of understanding what was actually said, pick one
havinf a different OPINION has nothing to do with lies

2.) I made the claim that the terminology was incorrect and that the subject was much more complex than what is being presented by the proponents of the term "white privilege" are narrating. And from that all you can do is concentrate on whether you think that I am for or against the existence of "white privilege".

wrong again, i dont care if you think or dont think it exists because it does, you believein git or not is meaningless to me.

3.)All I tried to do was to dig deeper than the parroted conversations that exist around this subject and you just waved your arms in the air instead. Fine I get it you dont want to go in depth you only want a yes or no type of conversation. Oh well I tried....

there no deep to go when the question is does it exist, theres only one factual answer and thats yes

when you asked if thing similar exist for OTHER groups my answer was yes but that has nothign to do with the topic, so thats not "going deeper", its trying to start a new topic

So again let me know when you can disprove the facts.

Of start a new thread and you can make that thread about anything you want
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

Why thank you. I love to start my days with passive aggressive niceties.


:) Yes, you would, wouldn't you?



You're Welcome! :-D
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

Money privilege is not white privilege. Sorry.

Its more than just money privilege. Its where you can live, voting rights, property ownweship. A lot of these things WASPS never had to worry about, or be concerned about. For example, blacks couldn't play in white sporting leagues not so long ago in our history. Who had the privilege? Whites not so long ago kept blacks out of schools and neighborhoods. Who had the privilege? Going back farther to slavery. Who had the privilege? Its obvious in our nation's history that whites by and large have had the privilege to the best jobs,segregated communities, segregated professional sports etc etc.

Of course things have changed over the years through laws and time that has changed attitudes but I don't fault a minority especially blacks for believing in white privilege.
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

Its more than just money privilege. Its where you can live, voting rights, property ownweship. A lot of these things WASPS never had to worry about, or be concerned about. For example, blacks couldn't play in white sporting leagues not so long ago in our history. Who had the privilege? Whites not so long ago kept blacks out of schools and neighborhoods. Who had the privilege? Going back farther to slavery. Who had the privilege? Its obvious in our nation's history that whites by and large have had the privilege to the best jobs,segregated communities, segregated professional sports etc etc.

Of course things have changed over the years through laws and time that has changed attitudes but I don't fault a minority especially blacks for believing in white privilege.

...and 50 years ago, I wouldn't have argued against the existence of white privilege.
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

...and 50 years ago, I wouldn't have argued against the existence of white privilege.

so im curious, in your opinion when do you think it stopped? and why?
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

so im curious, in your opinion when do you think it stopped? and why?

I can't pinpoint a date. When I started noticing civil exams having a distinct bend for minorities. When I noticed I was limited in scholarship choices due to gender and race. When I noticed that black people with dreadlocks were getting good-paying jobs.
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

I can't pinpoint a date. When I started noticing civil exams having a distinct bend for minorities. When I noticed I was limited in scholarship choices due to gender and race. When I noticed that black people with dreadlocks were getting good-paying jobs.

WOW this is VERY telling LMAO
I was going to have an honest talk but never mind theres no need now, i got all the answers i need
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

"White privilege" does not exist. However there IS a prejudice against "Ghetto Culture."

I mean...seriously...if you were hiring for an office position (let's say something simple like "data entry"), would you seriously consider hiring someone with their pants down to their thighs? Would you pass up the clean-cut, professional-looking candidate for someone with "grillz" and gold chains?
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

Do you get it yet?

You can have all of those things and keep the overtly racial titles out of them. A channel on which the entertainment is by black people, for black people does not have to be called Black Entertainment Television. It could be called anything else and it would be less discriminatory, regardless of who is on the channel and who the channel is for. The same goes for all of the aforementioned black only pleasantries. So what if other magazines feature primarliy white people? We still don't call it Ivory magazine. The same can be said for Ebony magazine. Feature primarily black people in it, but the explicit 'for us by us' titles are what the issue is. Call it "Cultural History Month." Preaching equality and then putting your own race on a pedestal where you are invulnerable to the common political incorrectness of making things racially exclusive is hypocritical.

I can do without your condescension.
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

You can have all of those things and keep the overtly racial titles out of them. A channel on which the entertainment is by black people, for black people does not have to be called Black Entertainment Television. It could be called anything else and it would be less discriminatory, regardless of who is on the channel and who the channel is for. The same goes for all of the aforementioned black only pleasantries. So what if other magazines feature primarliy white people? We still don't call it Ivory magazine. The same can be said for Ebony magazine. Feature primarily black people in it, but the explicit 'for us by us' titles are what the issue is. Call it "Cultural History Month." Preaching equality and then putting your own race on a pedestal where you are invulnerable to the common political incorrectness of making things racially exclusive is hypocritical.

I can do without your condescension.

I get sick of black people ramming ''racism'' down my throat...
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

You can have all of those things and keep the overtly racial titles out of them. A channel on which the entertainment is by black people, for black people does not have to be called Black Entertainment Television. It could be called anything else and it would be less discriminatory, regardless of who is on the channel and who the channel is for. The same goes for all of the aforementioned black only pleasantries.
Interesting. You think it's okay to have magazines, et al. for black people by people, but it's not okay to say that they are for black people by black people. How does not calling something what it is stop something from being what it is?

And since you think that giving things names like "Black Entertainment Television" is a problem, can you also explain how you and other white people have been harmed by the names like BET, Black History month, et al.?

So what if other magazines feature primarliy white people?
It matters because it's the basis for the things you are complaining about. Don't you want to understand the things you're criticizing? Or would you prefer to criticize things from a place of ignorance?

We still don't call it Ivory magazine. The same can be said for Ebony magazine. Feature primarily black people in it, but the explicit 'for us by us' titles are what the issue is. Call it "Cultural History Month."
Again, it's okay for X to exist as long as we don't call it X. That's a pretty silly argument.

Preaching equality and then putting your own race on a pedestal where you are invulnerable to the common political incorrectness of making things racially exclusive is hypocritical.
Black History month, BET, et al. aren't about putting the black "race" on a "pedestal". They are about, as I already told you, filling the absence of black people and perspectives that exists in our society.

I can do without your condescension.
I require it to cope with the ignorance that constitutes the entirety of your posts.
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

Interesting. You think it's okay to have magazines, et al. for black people by people, but it's not okay to say that they are for black people by black people. How does not calling something what it is stop something from being what it is?

Yes I think it's ok, and no it's not ok to say that they are for black people, by black people explicitly. Not calling something what it is does not keep it from being so, but it is blatanly racist to create anything titled exclusively for your race. I would make the same argument if we were talking about 'White Entertainment Television.' Keep the color's out of it.

And since you think that giving things names like "Black Entertainment Television" is a problem, can you also explain how you and other white people have been harmed by the names like BET, Black History month, et al.?


'White' or caucasian people have a rich culture and history in this country as well as black, hispanic, asian, etc. Imagine the uproar if there were ANYTHING as explicitly exclusive to white people as there is to other cultures. It is a denial of equality and freedom to be unable to make exclusively white facets. It creates a sense of guilt for being white.

It matters because it's the basis for the things you are complaining about. Don't you want to understand the things you're criticizing? Or would you prefer to criticize things from a place of ignorance?.


It's not the people who dominate the television channel, magazine, etc; It's the title of them that matters. It goes from being simply a heavily white instituion or black institution, to an exclusively white or black institution.

Again, it's okay for X to exist as long as we don't call it X. That's a pretty silly argument..



Not in the least. It's called being politically correct and it is a very valid argument made by other races towards whites all the time. Channels, magazines, schools, etc dominated by white people exist, but we do not call them white magazines, white schools, white etc, because it would be politically incorrect and discriminatory.

Black History month, BET, et al. aren't about putting the black "race" on a "pedestal". They are about, as I already told you, filling the absence of black people and perspectives that exists in our society..

The only other race which has it's own nationally recognized month to celebrate it's culture and heritage is the Hispanic race, Hispanic Heritage Month. Where is Native American month? If any race deserves some attention, it's them. Obviously there is a hierarchy of allowed racial pride in this country, and black people are definitely at the top - on a pedestal.

I require it to cope with the ignorance that constitutes the entirety of your posts.

You require it because you cannot keep your emotions out of a debate and act as an adult.
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

I get sick of black people ramming ''racism'' down my throat...

It's becoming uncontrollable.
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

It's becoming uncontrollable.

The worst thing is..it is of our own making..or government politically correct councils...who are usually white..
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

Just watching boxing..heavyweights..brilliant..
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

You can have all of those things and keep the overtly racial titles out of them. A channel on which the entertainment is by black people, for black people does not have to be called Black Entertainment Television. It could be called anything else and it would be less discriminatory, regardless of who is on the channel and who the channel is for. The same goes for all of the aforementioned black only pleasantries. So what if other magazines feature primarliy white people? We still don't call it Ivory magazine. The same can be said for Ebony magazine. Feature primarily black people in it, but the explicit 'for us by us' titles are what the issue is. Call it "Cultural History Month." Preaching equality and then putting your own race on a pedestal where you are invulnerable to the common political incorrectness of making things racially exclusive is hypocritical.

I think you would understand this better with more knowledge of recent history. African-Americans were forced into having a separate culture by law and custom until the mid-1960s. Paradoxically, they were also subject to forced assimilation in may ways. They were always told by the mainstream that their culture was inferior, while at the same time the dominant culture appropriated aspects of their cultural expression. Knowing this, it is understandable that African Americans are defensive and protective about their culture. However, in my personal experience, and based on my extensive knowledge of African American music, when others consume or participate in their culture with respect they are welcomed. For example, I have been the one of just a handful of white gpeople at early rap shows and no one gave me a hard time, and some expressed appreciation for my interest. Racial exclusiveness among African Americans is largely a myth in my experience. People who have other experiences may just be unlucky, but more likely they had unreasonable expectations or did not act repectfully (perhaps unintentionally or subconsciously).

I know of small, but active Italian/Italian American and Polish/Polish American and other communities and cultures here in the USA that also have magaines, TV shows etc. No one claims that they are racist, put themselves on a pedestal or treat others with condescension.

If you want to particpate in African American/Black culture no one is stopping you. BET does not say "for blacks only"



*which is alo a significant part of the general North American culture
 
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Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

I think you would understand this better with more knowledge of recent history. African-Americans were forced into having a separate culture by law and custom until the mid-1960s. Paradoxically, they were also subject to forced assimilation in may ways. They were always told by the mainstream that their culture was inferior, while at the same time the dominant culture appropriated aspects of their cultural expression. Knowing this, it is understandable that African Americans are defensive and protective about their culture. However, in my personal experience, and based on my extensive knowledge of African American music, when others consume or participate in their culture with respect they are welcomed. For example, I have been the one of just a handful of white gpeople at early rap shows and no one gave me a hard time, and some expressed appreciation for my interest. Racial exclusiveness among African Americans is largely a myth in my experience. People who have other experiences may just be unlucky, bit more likely they had unreasonable expectations or did not act repectfully.

I know of small, but active Italian/Italian American and Polish/Polish American and other communities and cultures here in the USA that also have magaines, TV shows etc. No one claims that they are racist, put themselves on a pedestal or treat others with condescension.

If you want to particpate in African American/Black culture no one is stopping you. BET does not say "for blacks only"



*which is alo a significant part of the general North American culture

Ever been called the "n" word with a "w" in front of it?
 
Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

...The only other race which has it's own nationally recognized month to celebrate it's culture and heritage is the Hispanic race, Hispanic Heritage Month. Where is Native American month? If any race deserves some attention, it's them. Obviously there is a hierarchy of allowed racial pride in this country, and black people are definitely at the top - on a pedestal....


Here's info on Native American month, which is in November: Native American Heritage Month 2012
Italian American month is October October is Italian Heritage Month
so is Polish American month Polish American Heritage Month
Asian Pacific Heritage month Presidential Proclamation -- Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month, 2012 | The White House
 
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