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Do you support federal marijuana legalization?

Should marijuana be legalized at the federal level?

  • No, but we should decriminalize it

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    65
It helps to follow the conversation so you get the context.
I tried to follow the conversation but your posts read like incoherent gibberish. That's a "you" problem.
 
I wish to god that the media would stop calling it marijuana. There is no such plant species called marijuana. It's called CANNABIS.
I actually didn't know that. I never got into pot, strictly because it's illegal and I'm very much on-the-grid, regular UAs and everything.

As soon as it's legal, not only for the general public but for the military also, I'm in.
 
Legalize it. Not only is it less harmful than alcohol, it's inherently immoral to imprison human beings for non-violent behavior that effects nobody but themselves.
Oh come off it, even alcohol and tobacco affect the people around you. Alcoholics, lung cancer, smoking in public, DUI, numerous fire codes, medical/car insurance rates (especially if a non-user has a user on a shared policy)....I'm all for legalizing pot but that argument is pure bull****.
 
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Oh come off it, even alcohol and tobacco affect the people around you. Alcoholics, lung cancer, smoking in public, DUI, numerous fire codes, medical/car insurance rates (especially if a non-user has a user on a shared policy)....I'm all for legalizing pot but that argument is pure bull****.

If you can tell me how my smoking via vaporizer in the privacy of my own home effects other people, I will concede.

Alcoholics? What does that have to do with weed?
Lung cancer? I use a vaporizer. Even still, how many people have you met with lung cancer from weed?
Smoking in public? How many people do you know have unwillingly gotten puffed with marijuana smoke?
DUI? They shouldn't be driving under ANY substance.
Fire codes? Wtf? Really?
Medical/car insurance rates? It's none of their business.

If you'd like to provide some actual reasons against it, I'll be here.

whatever.

This site has the best software for debating and dialoguing, the but people and moderators and moderation "rules" are ridiculous. Rent-a-cops busting people for going 1 mile over the speed limit. I don't have the patience for such absurdity and suffocation over benign speech.

Talk about a nanny state! Yuck.

I'm outta here.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. All you've done is bitch and moan since you got here. You can't even stay on the topic of a thread.
 
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If you can tell me how my smoking via vaporizer in the privacy of my own home effects other people, I will concede.
If you cannot conclusively prove that each and every single smoker anyways uses a vaporizer and only smokes in their home, you have no point to begin with.

Alcoholics? What does that have to do with weed?
It's a controled substance which bars you from operating equipment or a vehicle while under the influence there-of. You really don't know much about this topic. Jesus dude get a clue and get back to me.

Alcoholics? What does that have to do with weed?
Well let's start with the fact that the government body which will be regulating weed is the same body which currently regulates alcohol, tobacco...and firearms.

Even still, how many people have you met with lung cancer from weed?
Do you know the people I know? I could say anything and you have no way to verify it. Ask better questions.

How many people do you know have unwillingly gotten puffed with marijuana smoke?
Do you know the people I know? I could say anything and you have no way to verify it. Ask better questions.

DUI? They shouldn't be driving under ANY substance.
So you agree that smoking pot affects other people.

Fire codes? Wtf? Really?
I'm in construction, I'm dead serious.

Medical/car insurance rates? It's none of their business.
It's the business of every signing party on that contract. If you are on a shared policy, your smoking is affecting others by raising their premiums.

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If you'd like to provide some actual reasons against it, I'll be here.
Against what? Smoking pot? I said I'm all for it.

Your argument is just bull****. I fully support legalizing recreational pot immediately, but your argument is lame and pathetic.

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You smoking pot will affect others....but that's OK. If you don't want to pay a higher premium while on a shared policy with a smoker, get your own policy. If you don't like a building full of smoke, don't do business there. Other people will be affected....but that's OK. Other people are affected when I open-carry a gun...and that's OK too. While other people are affected...they are not harmed...or they at least have the ability to remove themselves from a situation if they feel they are being harmed.
 
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It's a controled substance which bars you from operating equipment or a vehicle while under the influence there-of. You really don't know much about this topic. Jesus dude get a clue and get back to me.

Of course, and most people are responsible with it, not operating equipment or vehicles while impaired. I'm not even sure what your BS argument is in the first place. People who violate laws and put others in danger should be prosecuted whether high or not. People who can be responsible with their drugs or liquor in the privacy of their home, should be able to do so.

I'm still waiting for an explanation of the laundry list of reasons how "weed effects everyone" from your last post that I shot down.

And where do alcoholics come in again?
 
I actually didn't know that. I never got into pot, strictly because it's illegal and I'm very much on-the-grid, regular UAs and everything.

Marijuana (word) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The word was invented during the Reefer Madness era and has no real connection to any known language. I guess one of the best ways to demonize something is to create a foreign sounding name for it.

You can watch Reefer Madness, the propaganda video that made its debut during the era of demonization, here. If it weren't so laughable I'd cry.
 
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Marijuana (word) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The word was invented during the Reefer Madness era and has no real connection to any known language. I guess one of the best ways to demonize something is to create a foreign sounding name for it.

You can watch Reefer Madness, the propaganda video that started the whole criminalization campaign, here. If it weren't so laughable I'd cry.
Back in the day I smoked what my fiends called Australian Purple. Do you know what the correct name for that species is, if it's even a species at all? I honestly have no idea. It was smooth, and should cannabis become legal again that's what I may go looking for.
 
Back in the day I smoked what my fiends called Australian Purple. Do you know what the correct name for that species is, if it's even a species at all? I honestly have no idea. It was smooth, and should cannabis become legal again that's what I may go looking for.

I don't know, I am not a cannabis user myself. I can tell you that cannabis as a genus is divided into two smokeable subspecies: cannabis indica and cannabis sativa. Indicas tend to be more pain-killing due to their higher CBD content and induce relaxation, whereas sativas have higher THC content, are more mentally stimulating and are used for depression as well as spiritual purposes (like rastafarians, saddhus in India, etc.). Most strains are a mix of the two in different ratios.

I just did a google search and it tells me that "purple" refers to "purple haze", which is an indica dominant strain. Smoothness is not determined by strain but whether or not it was cured following a harvest. Curing involves placing the recently dried flowers into an air tight jar where it remains from 1 month to 1 year. During that time the chlorophyls in the flowers break down, leading to a smoother smoke, but because the jar is air tight the active contituents do not oxidize. It's the chlorophyls that make people hack when they smoke and curing improves the quality.
 
Oh come off it, even alcohol and tobacco affect the people around you. Alcoholics, lung cancer, smoking in public, DUI, numerous fire codes, medical/car insurance rates (especially if a non-user has a user on a shared policy)....I'm all for legalizing pot but that argument is pure bull****.

the best argument for legalizing Reefer is not claims that it is harmless or less harmful than booze but rather keeping it illegal is FAR more harmful than legalization
 
And where do alcoholics come in again?
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Legalize it. Not only is it less harmful than alcohol, it's inherently immoral to imprison human beings for non-violent behavior that effects nobody but themselves.
I've heard that pot affects short term memory....you may want to lay off the puff-puff for 24-72 hours before coming here to debate me.
 
the best argument for legalizing Reefer is not claims that it is harmless or less harmful than booze but rather keeping it illegal is FAR more harmful than legalization

Exactly.

The feds admitted the same about prohibition of booze rather soon. When will they finally admit the same about pot?

Booze is not a good thing, either. Prohibition was worse.
 
the best argument for legalizing Reefer is not claims that it is harmless or less harmful than booze but rather keeping it illegal is FAR more harmful than legalization

We have a winner!!

My signature conveys that exact sentiment
 
Sorry for the late response, my internet was out yesterday.

If you cannot conclusively prove that each and every single smoker anyways uses a vaporizer and only smokes in their home, you have no point to begin with.
I don't have to. My argument is that smoking in and of itself doesn't effect anyone else but the smoker. Your point seems to be that it always effects everybody. By your logic, you could take anything, to include eating bologna sandwiches as having effects on society.

It's a controled substance which bars you from operating equipment or a vehicle while under the influence there-of. You really don't know much about this topic. Jesus dude get a clue and get back to me.
And? Why do you keep bringing up alcoholics in a debate about cannabis?


Well let's start with the fact that the government body which will be regulating weed is the same body which currently regulates alcohol, tobacco...and firearms.
So after I ask you why you bring up alcoholism in a cannabis debate, you quote the ATF? That doesn't even make sense.


Do you know the people I know? I could say anything and you have no way to verify it. Ask better questions.
Nope, and I don't need to. Nobody you know has lung cancer from weed.

So you agree that smoking pot affects other people.
No, it doesn't. Some idiots doing stupid things on it, just as with alcohol, huffing paint, or anything effects people. People's actions are people's actions. I swear, you're like one of those liberals screaming about how guns kill people and not the people themselves. Hypocrite much?


I'm in construction, I'm dead serious.
Guess you're opposed to grills, stoves, coffee pots, tv's, electricity, wool, matches, cigarettes, etc. for being fire hazards as well.


It's the business of every signing party on that contract. If you are on a shared policy, your smoking is affecting others by raising their premiums.
It's illegal, nobody puts it on their insurance questionaires.


Against what? Smoking pot? I said I'm all for it.
And yet you get angry and attack people who allegedly are on your side. Cute.

Your argument is just bull****. I fully support legalizing recreational pot immediately, but your argument is lame and pathetic.

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You smoking pot will affect others....but that's OK. If you don't want to pay a higher premium while on a shared policy with a smoker, get your own policy. If you don't like a building full of smoke, don't do business there. Other people will be affected....but that's OK. Other people are affected when I open-carry a gun...and that's OK too. While other people are affected...they are not harmed...or they at least have the ability to remove themselves from a situation if they feel they are being harmed.
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I've heard that pot affects short term memory....you may want to lay off the puff-puff for 24-72 hours before coming here to debate me.


Really? You're the dick who jumped out of left field screaming about how I should "come off it" when I didn't even address you. I'm not sure why you're so angered by the concept that people's actions effect other people, smoking weed doesn't. There isn't anything about smoking, or drinking, or owning a gun, that inherently effects anyone else. If someone on the other hand decides to use one of those things against their fellow man, that is a separate instance altogether, and in that rare case is dealt with by the law.

Open carry would be the equivalent of smoking in public. A better parallel would be owning a gun and keeping it in your own home. After all, that gun could go off accidentally and start a fire, the insurance company knowing about it could theoretically charge the owner more, the owner could be playing with it while driving and get in a wreck, you're not supposed to be operating heavy equipment while playing with a gun, and it could hit you in the lung to cause lung damage.

If you can explain to me how simply owning a gun effects everyone else, I'll concede.

So let me know when you're ready to calm the **** down and produce some real evidence that all smoking effects all of society. "Some people who use weed could potentially do something to effect others" is not really a solid argument.
 
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