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Dorner: Executed or Accident?

Was Dorner executed or was it an unfortunate consequence?

  • YES, police knew teargas would burn him alive.

    Votes: 25 64.1%

  • NO, it was an honest attempt to subdue him.

    Votes: 14 35.9%
  • Total voters
    39
  • Poll closed .
stonewall50 said:
Hm? Interesting. For sure. Chalk it up to the news never knowing anything because they report to quickly?
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One would have to assume the media is wrong about the wallet being in the cabin. It's significantly more damaging if a police officer and federal agent documented the wrong information in an arrest complaint.
 
tessaesque said:
Article says Dorner's wallet w/ID found in cabin. Complaint at bottom of article says Dorner's wallet w/ID was found at the Mexico border.

Somehow the wallet, independent of Dorner and in police possession managed to travel about 100 miles (or more) in a few days time.

Interesting, that.

Report: Dorner's wallet found in burned-out cabin
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how was the ID not burned in that cabin fire that torched him?
 
tessaesque said:
Article says Dorner's wallet w/ID found in cabin. Complaint at bottom of article says Dorner's wallet w/ID was found at the Mexico border.

Somehow the wallet, independent of Dorner and in police possession managed to travel about 100 miles (or more) in a few days time.

Interesting, that.

Report: Dorner's wallet found in burned-out cabin
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Weird- I'm not sure what to make of that.
 
A body burned beyond recognition with one's own ID on it or nearby would make a convincing diversion, while one slipped away.

Doubt that is what actually happened, just sayin'...
 
justabubba said:
how was the ID not burned in that cabin fire that torched him?
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That's being explained away under the pretext that it would have been covered by his body and protected by the (likely) leather material.

The other explanation is that the ID found at the border was his police ID in its own wallet, which explains why there were two total wallets....but I'm wondering how he was allowed to keep is police ID and why he was still carrying it after having been terminated 5 years ago.
 
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tessaesque said:
That's being explained away under the pretext that it would have been covered by his body and protected by the (likely) leather material.

The other explanation is that the ID found at the border was his police ID....but I'm wondering how he was allowed to keep is police ID and why he was still carrying it after having been terminated 5 years ago.
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who would have access to his police ID had he turned it in upon termination?
 
justabubba said:
who would have access to his police ID had he turned it in upon termination?
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I dunno how that works, tbh. Any job I've had that required ID also required that ID be destroyed when an employee was terminated or quit voluntarily. I'm not sure what LAPD's policy is, so....
 
tessaesque said:
That's being explained away under the pretext that it would have been covered by his body and protected by the (likely) leather material.
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That wouldn't come as any surprise to explain how the ID was still readable. What has my interest is the statement that the ID was found at the Mexico border. Of course, there's no rule that a person can't have two ID's and/or driver's licenses.

Pretty easy to see why he might carry an old police ID. It probably makes things a little easier in certain regards, depending on what you're trying to do or get access to.
 
Removable Mind said:
Interesting coming from you, Joko...is that really what you think? Is that the type of man that you believe me to be? Seriously?

I've never been called a cop hater before.
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No, I don't think that about you at all to be honest about it.
 
He must've been smoking a cigarette in bed.


That'll get you everytime...
 
I wouldn't be so sure that he's dead yet.

I'm thinking that he probably is dead, but you never know.
 
winston53660 said:
FYI Elvis has left the building.
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That's my best guess. But you have to put yourself in the cops' shoes.

They don't know that with 100% certainty, and neither do you.

Dorner could be hunting them as we speak.
 
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Muhammed said:
That's my best guess. But you have to put yourself in the cop's shoes.

They don't know that with 100% certainty.

Dorner could be hunting them as we speak.
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From what I have seen the DNA was tested and it was his
 
I believe the police, at the least, played a part knowing he would probably die in the process. (I'm being polite)

Just a suspicion. I have no proof.
 
This incident gives us a long hard look at our law enforcement. What a joke. Shooting at 2 different trucks with innocent civilians? Then they are placed on administrative leave? Really? That is it? I think it is time for some action...legal action...against police.
 
Dorner was tried in the press and executed by the police. No doubt in my mind. The only thing left is wagering on how long before the site is bulldozed.
 
Panzareta said:
Dorner was tried in the press and executed by the police. No doubt in my mind. The only thing left is wagering on how long before the site is bulldozed.
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does anyone know what became of the media package he left for CNN's anderson cooper
 
Dorner was executed just like Koresh and the dozens of women and children with him in Waco.
 
This is conspiracy theory.
 
grip said:
Yes, I think it matters how the police handle themselves in any situation, regardless of how sociopath the perp appears. Once we allow our officials to make decisions based on irrational emotion we're going down a dark path.
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Clearly, if there is evidence that police started the fire intentionally, there should be consequences. But if police used a more aggressive gas cannister knowing it might start a fire, but would also be more likely to drive the suspect out of the cabin, I say fine.

The police did not napalm the building, the suspect had an opportunity to come out, he chose not to, fire or not.

It was a fire fight, if the police stationed a sniper and he had a shot at the suspect and took it, I would not be upset. Each moment this guy was not dead or in custody presented another moment where this guy could murder people.

I am not a big fan of police, I think they generally overstep their bounds and stomp of the rights of law abiding citizens. But this situation is why we have police. i wish they would spend MORE time dealing with seriously dangerous criminals than most of the nonsense they engage in. But I don't think this is the decision of the officers individually, more a bureacratic decision.
 


"burners deployed and we have a fire"
 
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