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at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

the age of consent

  • they are not child if they have physical maturity

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21, except for those in military service.
 
Due to the anatomical differences between males and females, sexual activity for young girls engaging in said activies for the first time involves some level of physical injury and pain. This however is not the case for males.

Goshin addressed most of this well, but I would just to point something out...

First of all, that is not true for the vast majority of women. Most women can have a pretty much painless first experience, provided their partner actually takes their time. The hymen does not need to be "torn," which is just part of our violent sexual lexicon. It can very easily be stretched to allow penetration without force, in most cases. It just requires a little patience and a lot of foreplay the first couple times.

There are going to be exceptions to that, but most women can have painless sexual debuts. Many women don't even have hymens by the time they're teenagers (it can be stretched through various activities, including vigorous exercise).

Second, sex is not always painless for men. Sex can be painful for a variety of different reason, many of which are ALSO related to not enough patience and foreplay.
 
I don't like the idea of basing 'adulthood' on age. It doesn't account for the fact that different people mature at different rates. Some people in their 30s are less mature and able to handle being an 'adult' than some people are at 15. A person should be considered an adult when they are mature enough to handle the privileges and responsibilities that come with adulthood.

That being said, that kind of thing is probably unrealistic to expect. It would be difficult to judge maturity that way, and age is much easier.

Any age you pick past puberty is going to be fairly arbitrary, so I think 18 should be the cutoff for most things, including alcohol, driving, and gun ownership.

As far as sex goes, I think the unrestricted age of consent should be 18, but any age should be legal as long as your partner is within a couple years of your age.
 
A lot of that just isn't true anymore. Girls in their teens are as likely to be sexually "aggressive" (interesting word choice that) as boys.

Girls may get pregnant yes... but THEY choose whether to abort or keep, and THEY choose whether to hold the male financially accountable for the next 18 years, so I think that kinda balances out.

Both boys and girls may get STDs, so no diff there.

Both boys and girls can be emotionally abused by more mature sex partners, so no diff there.


I think this is just left-over gender bias.... I thought we supposedly had this equality-of-the-sexes thing going on now right?

I'm not of the understanding that abortion is a 'no big deal' procedure. It's on par with outpatient surgery. Secondly, in many cases it leaves the lady with years if not a lifetime of emotional pain. It sometimes leaves the lady sterile.

Yes, both males and females can and do contract stds but in some cases even if the std is present, males are less likely to be infected as females due simply to anatomical differences. For example, there is a push right now in Africa for all males to become circumcised because it lowers their risk of contracting various sexually communicable infections including HIV. The reason for this is anatomically, areas of the body that can trap bacteria/virus in a warm and moist environment are more likely to be an incubator for microbes to infect to body. Agreeably both males and females are at risk but with females there's no comparison.

I'm all for progress and equal opportunity but saying we as a society should disregard all special defenses of ladies due to their unique vulnerabilities is in my humble opinion calloused and extreme.
 
I'm not of the understanding that abortion is a 'no big deal' procedure. It's on par with outpatient surgery. Secondly, in many cases it leaves the lady with years if not a lifetime of emotional pain. It sometimes leaves the lady sterile.

Yes, both males and females can and do contract stds but in some cases even if the std is present, males are less likely to be infected as females due simply to anatomical differences. For example, there is a push right now in Africa for all males to become circumcised because it lowers their risk of contracting various sexually communicable infections including HIV. The reason for this is anatomically, areas of the body that can trap bacteria/virus in a warm and moist environment are more likely to be an incubator for microbes to infect to body. Agreeably both males are females are at risk but with females there's no comparison.

I'm all for progress and equal opportunity but saying we as a society should disregard all special defenses of ladies due to their unique vulnerabilities is in my humble opinion calloused and extreme.

If it's early enough, abortion can be performed by medication, at the patient's home. You probably want to take it easy, but it's not a major procedure. It doesn't even require medical supervision after the initial consult and prescription.

Even surgical abortions are substantially less risky than other kinds of surgery. The body cavity is not injured, and the patient doesn't have to be fully anesthetized, which removes the two most serious risks of surgery.

The majority of women do struggle with the decision, but ultimately feel relief after it's over and done with. And I would argue that if society weren't so cruel towards women who abort, it might be less emotionally taxing.

Also, abortion does not cause sterility. That is a myth promoted by the anti-choice community.

As to STD's, that kind of depends. Some STD's can transmit by skin contact, and leave both men and women very susceptible. And in a lot of cases, the affects on men have been largely neglected by science. For example, we have known for a long time that HPV can cause cervical cancer in women, but we are only now discovering that it causes anal, throat, and other kinds of cancers in men as well.
 
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What makes people upset is when she attributes things to them which they never said and uses dishonesty in her arguments. That is NOT a "cultural difference."

you are the one who claims l support pedophilic marriages................

what does it mean ?

"will you agree a ten years old girl can marry a man 20 years older than him ?"

ten years old girl is not a teenage or adult !!
and " a little " means only 3 4 year gap!!!!!!!!
l am not like the ones who support all kind of perversions
and you have no right to punish other people and youngs because you made mistake in the past

you are very liberal in polygamic discussions!
 
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Oh, I didn't know Medusa was not in the US. But I don't think that tainted my posts on the issue. In the Netherlands the age of consent for sex is 16, I believe.

l started this thread because of polygamy supporters .it has nothing to do with turkey or religions

it is 18 here..
 
should a man age of 21 be charged with pedohilia and convicted of having sex with a child age of 14 15 0r 16 ?

when should a person be considered adult ?

my purpose in starting this thread is not to justify this action

l just wonder why a person has to be accused of being a pedohilie although he is not sexually interested in little children

many of the teenagers have the physical maturity to have sex and give birth although not all of them can be emotionally mature to marry and raise their babies.

if 3 or more adults over 18 can have sex together or marry if polygamy is legalized , why is a person considered pervert pedohilie only because he had sex with a girl who is mature enough to menstruate ?

if both of them are consent to have sex ,what is teh problem ?

they dont seem more disturbing than polygamic lovers

There's a big difference between physical maturity and mental maturity. The reason that the age limit is based on physical age is because there is no way to accurately measure someones mental maturity. Particularly since mental maturity is a subjective thing.
 
In most of the western world, the age of consent is 16. I think that's a better number than 18. Few 14 year olds are ready for sex, and few 18 year olds aren't. 16 looks to be a much more medium age when a good number will be interested in that sort of thing. Keep in mind, we're not discussing the age when a person ought to be having sex, we're discussing the age when it should be a crime to have sex with that person, based on the idea that someone that young cannot rationally make the decision to have sex or not.
 
I agree but I think that 18 across the board for sexual consent and marital consent is old enough. They have had an opportunity to finish high school by then at least.

Because of the fact that the are going to be sexually active younger than 25 and perhaps have a resultant pregnancy, they should be allowed to marry IMO. But I would use 18 as the age because of educational purposes, as well as the maturity factor.

So if you take education out of it, what should the age be?
 
Depends on what we consider an adult to begin with. At 18, you're supposedly an adult cause you can sign up to kill people. But you can't buy beer until you're 21 and legal? So... what 'makes' an adult should first be defined.
 
Once serving in the military, graduated from a four year college, or having obtained the age of 25.
 
Well let me ask you this - how many people your age do you know who married at 17/18 that are still together? My guess is probably very few, if any - unless she got knocked up.

It was common in my grandparents' days because back then, divorce was taboo and frowned upon so you stuck with the person you married, come hell or high water, even if they turned out to be a complete waste of oxygen.

You CAN get married at 18, just like you CAN get divorced at 20. Then you're on the market as 20 and divorced. Good luck finding someone new, especially if you got a kid out of that brief mistake.

LOL - I saw this in Medusa's siggy . . . had to quote!

Because I was married at 17 - divorced at 20 . . . and had 2 kids with him . . . and you're hot for me, too - so apparently all that **** doesn't matter, really - does it?

It's all in the tits.

And i Just ruined your point - sorry bout that. OR proved the first point . . . whichever - whatever.

LOL!
 
LOL - I saw this in Medusa's siggy . . . had to quote!

Because I was married at 17 - divorced at 20 . . . and had 2 kids with him . . . and you're hot for me, too - so apparently all that **** doesn't matter, really - does it?

It's all in the tits.

And i Just ruined your point - sorry bout that. OR proved the first point . . . whichever - whatever.

LOL!

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...and then I'd sneak out when you're asleep. :D
 
Based on my life experience and watching others, 28. That seemed to be when most people I knew stopped regretting their decisions.
 
If you cant drink - you cant die in our Army or be an adult.

But then again, USA is full of BS on other things too,.
 
If you cant drink - you cant die in our Army

274ina has spoken. Sober people are not welcome in the Army. If ya cain't hold ya own drankin', y'ain't got no biznis in the Ahmee.
 
I had to say others because it depends on several things, in the first place the situation and in the second place what the mental age of young adults is in situations like crime or legal issues (loans, gambling, jobs, etc.)
 
I clicked on 'the ones under 21 should be coınsidered child' and 'they need both emotional and physical maturity to have sex'. I had thought that the brain stopped developing when a person turned twenty-one, but there is conflicting data so far presented in this thread. My train of thought remains though. And I most certainly hold the belief that people need to have 'emotional and physical maturity' before doing the deed. Teenage pregnancy is a really, really ****ed-up problem. "Teenage fathers" is like, "WTF!?!?" Sure, some people make it, but look at the overwhelming majority of people that pop out kids really early in their lives. 'Success story' is not a part of their equation. And since sex often leads to babies, we need to have more responsible people doing one of the funnest pass times humans have learned to enjoy. There might just be a correlation between that and responsible parenting.

I guess people shouldn't engage in sex unless they can legitimately face the consequences of their dual actions. No bull**** excuses, it's either you can or can't. And I think if you can't, playing solo is probably a better option for you and everyone else involved.
 
I think it really depends on individual differences so i clicked that one.

What one would consider an adult, another will not and so on and so forth.
 
Medical science has proven that the brain is not fully developed until age 24. Divorce statistics have proven that people who marry before age 24 are more likely to divorce and more likely to be victims of spousal abuse. Department of Human Services statistics have proven that children born to parents under the age of 24 are less likely to graduate from high school. Medical statistics have proven that pregnant women under the age of 24 are more likely to have miscarriages, deformed babies and premature births. Family planning Statistics have proven that people under the age of 24 are less consistent in remembering to use contraception such as condoms and birth control pills. . Medical statistics have proven that women who use an epidural, a contraceptive implant or birth control pills before the age of 24 are more likely to get cancer. Death statistics have proven that women under the age of 24 who use an abortion pill, are more likely to die of a stroke, and that women who have an abortion under the age of 24 are more likely to commit suicide. . So, marriage, babies, abortions and contraceptives, are all bad for people under the age of 24. Therefore, sex is bad for people under the age of 24. As to when a person should be considered capable of knowing offhand whether they want to have sex, well about 8 years old. As to when a person stops being excessively vulnerable to being bullied, coerced, deceived, manipulated into having sex they don't want, well about 24 years old.
 
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