Disrespect; a society norm or is it a huge problem?

Aunt Spiker said:

Hmm - knowing me - I've probably done exactly that. A little sleep dep - who knows what'll come out of my mouth when I start yapping. I know I've talked about my husband's **** - a lot.

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My response, :shock: "Uhh thanks, I guess." :2razz:

TheGirlNextDoor said:

Okay, okay....

Let's focus on cursing someone out. Think about the girl who told that judge to **** himself (or whatever the exactly phrase is).

I say curse words, and so do a lot of people...however, if someone makes me angry, my first reaction isn't to call them a 'stupid mother****er '. .. but apparently by today's standards, that's not a big deal? Really?

I'm sorry, but that's what I'm talking about when I say disrespectful...and Yes...I'm fully aware someone can be disrespectful without cursing...I'm not talking about absolutes here.

Generally speaking...is it the norm to just treat many in a disrespectful manner or is it a growing issue??

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I don't think so, I always say yes ma'am, and sir at grocery stores, drive thru's, etc, and most of my friends do too. I don't think disrespect is a growing problem :shrug:

Harry Guerrilla said:

My response, :shock: "Uhh thanks, I guess." :2razz:

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Try this: "Do you realize that what came out of your mouth was totally unacceptable and none of my business? How would your partner feel about that?"

Ok - maybe not that last part because my husband doesn't give a ****. LOL But a lot of people do care.

Your Star said:

I don't think so, I always say yes ma'am, and sir at grocery stores, drive thru's, etc, and most of my friends do too. I don't think disrespect is a growing problem :shrug:

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Region - there's a huge difference between verbal respect in the south VS the north and east . . . the south - you say it and don't even think about it. Where i grew up - if I called my mom 'Ma'am' . . .she's accuse me of sassing her with an attitude.

Aunt Spiker said:

Try this: "Do you realize that what came out of your mouth was totally unacceptable and none of my business? How would your partner feel about that?"

Ok - maybe not that last part because my husband doesn't give a ****. LOL But a lot of people do care.

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I would but, in my work/job relationships I tend to avoid those conflicts.
I generally try to change the subject.

But yea it's weird and ****ed up to me.

Aunt Spiker said:

Region - there's a huge difference between verbal respect in the south VS the north and east . . . the south - you say it and don't even think about it. Where i grew up - if I called my mom 'Ma'am' . . .she's accuse me of sassing her with an attitude.

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Well it's pretty obvious the south is better :2razz:

Now if we can only get past the crazy assed religion down here :lol:

Your Star said:

Well it's pretty obvious the south is better :2razz:

Now if we can only get past the crazy assed religion down here :lol:

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What's wrong with college football?

Aunt Spiker said:

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What's wrong with college football?

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It's boring, that's what. lol

TheGirlNextDoor said:

Do you feel that disrespect among young people (ages teens to early 20s) is rampant?

My own children are 16 and 14, and I'm telling you... cursing and disrespectful behavior isn't tolerated. Although they will try to get away with it, there are very clear and very swift consequences. My children do not swear at me, teachers or other adults. However, some of their friends DO and it seems that either because of lack of parental guidance or laxa-daisy enforcement by school officials country wide - it appears at least, to be an epidemic of sorts.

Thoughts?

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It's pretty bad where I live.

Kids are obnoxious especially when they run in packs :shock:
I was reading an article in the BBC about feral children in the UK and they weren't referring to mowgli so maybe they were noticing similar trends as well.

Found the article: BBC News - Many adults think children are 'feral', survey finds

Monserrat said:

It's pretty bad where I live.

Kids are obnoxious especially when they run in packs :shock:
I was reading an article in the BBC about feral children in the UK and they weren't referring to mowgli so maybe they were noticing similar trends as well.

Found the article: BBC News - Many adults think children are 'feral', survey finds

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Interesting article:

The children's charity says the research suggests society holds a negative view towards children despite the majority being well behaved.

The charity said many young people who end up in custody come from difficult backgrounds so, in order to prevent trouble, society first had to deal with their problems.

Chief executive Anne Marie Carrie said: "What hope is there for childhood in the UK today if this is how adults think?

"We seem to have forgotten the fact that most children are well behaved and instead we are unquestionably accepting a stereotype of young people as criminal and revolting.

"We aren't asking people to put up with yobbish behaviour, but we do need to change our attitudes towards troubled children."

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People believing it doesn't make it true.

Aunt Spiker said:

Interesting article:



People believing it doesn't make it true.

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Isn't there some word in psychology to describe how people take a few negative things that happen and then consider it something that is commonplace? Like when a bird ****s on your car right after you clean it and it happens maybe twice but after that second time you start shaking your fist in the air saying "son of a bitch, it always aims for my car". Well it doesn't always aim for your car, I'm sure it ****s on a lot of other cars as well.

Anywho it was an interesting article.

Monserrat said:

Isn't there some word in psychology to describe how people take a few negative things that happen and then consider it something that is commonplace? Like when a bird ****s on your car right after you clean it and it happens maybe twice but after that second time you start shaking your fist in the air saying "son of a bitch, it always aims for my car". Well it doesn't always aim for your car, I'm sure it ****s on a lot of other cars as well.

Anywho it was an interesting article.

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What if a donkey does it twice?

Monserrat said:

Isn't there some word in psychology to describe how people take a few negative things that happen and then consider it something that is commonplace? Like when a bird ****s on your car right after you clean it and it happens maybe twice but after that second time you start shaking your fist in the air saying "son of a bitch, it always aims for my car". Well it doesn't always aim for your car, I'm sure it ****s on a lot of other cars as well.

Anywho it was an interesting article.

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I think people might SEE a few hundred to a few thousand different children during their entire life. But only personally KNOW a small handful of them well enough to truly judge their character and behavior.

And a lot of people seem to block out memories of how they were as a child - how they REALLY were as a child

Harry Guerrilla said:

What if a donkey does it twice?

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Is that a political reference that I'm just not getting or is it just commonplace for a donkey to **** on your car? Because honestly I don't understand the logistics of how that would work, especially with a hooved and not particularly graceful creature

I would rather say there is a lack of discipline, and that in turn, causes the sh!tstorm of all the other negative effects. Discipline is the glue that holds all good together. Without it... it falls apart.

Monserrat said:

Is that a political reference that I'm just not getting or is it just commonplace for a donkey to **** on your car? Because honestly I don't understand the logistics of how that would work, especially with a hooved and not particularly graceful creature

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I'd say if a donkey **** on your car, it was intentional.
Not a political reference, just had to think of a humorous animal that normally wouldn't **** on your car.

Wayno said:

Walking around with your pants under your butt, wearing your underwear in public, is pretty pathetic....

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I was walking behind a teen the other day with his pants hanging down mid buttocks with his underwear visible. I kept wondering how do they stay up and not just slide on off?
Do they have to walk slightly wide stance to keep them up? I came close to walking up to him and just asking him. It would drive me nuts , kind of like walking and having one shoe completely untied.

Aunt Spiker said:

I think people might SEE a few hundred to a few thousand different children during their entire life. But only personally KNOW a small handful of them well enough to truly judge their character and behavior.

And a lot of people seem to block out memories of how they were as a child - how they REALLY were as a child

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Oh let me tell you...I was a challenge as a teen. There were worse kids, but I was a handful.

Just let me say this.. the mother's curse works well..."when you grow you I hope your children act JUST LIKE YOU ". THEY do, and I've since called my mother and apologized for my wild teen years. :lol:

TheGirlNextDoor said:

Oh let me tell you...I was a challenge as a teen. There were worse kids, but I was a handful.

Just let me say this.. the mother's curse works well..."when you grow you I hope your children act JUST LIKE YOU ". THEY do, and I've since called my mother and apologized for my wild teen years. :lol:

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I did too. And now...wait for it...my 20-something daughter has apologized to me. Heartfelt.

And I will admit to enthusiastically helping popularize the f-bomb back in the day. But even ten years ago, we all seemed to understand that there was a time and a place.

It's about a lack of respect. Every generation rebels, and this is the natural order of things--to question authority and etc. But there were always societal constraints. Now people swear (loudly) in the grocery store and just walking through the mall.

Remember the days of yore when a guy would swear in front of a woman and then apologize, LOL?

I wonder if we're not, most of us anyway, too eager to be "accepting" of just about everything.

nota bene said:

I did too. And now...wait for it...my 20-something daughter has apologized to me. Heartfelt.

And I will admit to enthusiastically helping popularize the f-bomb back in the day. But even ten years ago, we all seemed to understand that there was a time and a place.

It's about a lack of respect. Every generation rebels, and this is the natural order of things--to question authority and etc. But there were always societal constraints. Now people swear (loudly) in the grocery store and just walking through the mall.

Remember the days of yore when a guy would swear in front of a woman and then apologize, LOL?

I wonder if we're not, most of us anyway, too eager to be "accepting" of just about everything.

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Heh, this looks like a good time to tell a story about my father. He was in his late sixties when this happened, so it was probably 1990 or so.

My Dad and Mom, and his best friend "Buck" and his wife, had gone out together for dinner; afterwards they decided to go to the local mall and stroll around. They had just entered when a pair of young men, around 18-20 yo, came walking by casually cursing at each other at the top of their lungs.

My Dad and his buddy Buck, were both very old-school gentlemen... they were also WW2 vets and tough as nails. They grabbed the aforementioned young men and pinned them to the wall, and told them that here in the South men didn't use such foul language in front of ladies. They then invited the young men to apologize to the ladies in question (their wives)... the guys did this quickly and then ran off as soon as Dad and Buck let them go.

I was about 25-26 at the time, and when Mom told me what had happened I was torn between the conflicting desires to laugh my head off, and/or castigate my father vigorously for starting something that could have had serious consequences, and/or clapping him on the shoulder and saying "well done!" :mrgreen:

I settled for laughing a little and telling him, in a half-joking manner, that maybe Buck was a bad influence and he shouldn't hang out with him. Except come to think of it he was about as bad as Buck.

Sadly both Dad and Buck are gone now, and with them most of the men and most of the values of the Greatest Generation, and even in the South public decency has coarsened a great deal. Still I look back fondly on those old men I knew and wonder if we'll ever see their like again.

I wish I'd been there to see that, Goshin. Thanks for sharing.

You're right; there is an ugly coarsening in public life. I hope we're not becoming People of Walmart.

I voted that it's a norm, AND that it's a big problem.

TheGirlNextDoor said:

Do you feel that disrespect among young people (ages teens to early 20s) is rampant?

My own children are 16 and 14, and I'm telling you... cursing and disrespectful behavior isn't tolerated. Although they will try to get away with it, there are very clear and very swift consequences. My children do not swear at me, teachers or other adults. However, some of their friends DO and it seems that either because of lack of parental guidance or laxa-daisy enforcement by school officials country wide - it appears at least, to be an epidemic of sorts.

Thoughts?

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teenagers are mostly disrestpectful but it is not always their fault because we have been passing through a very interesting millenium century in which everything seems so fast food , senseless and like a google world, that makes everything too easy to reach .

and even little children are so so different ,smarter and self confident than the previous generation .

l remember we used to show a full respect to our teachers and try to behave in the class . internet world created new dynamics in every part of this newglobal world .it has both good and bad sides

Being disrespectful is always a choice, no matter what your age.

Big time. Heard a story about some 18 year old bitch cussing out a judge. He threw her in jail for 30 days.

I loved it.