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Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?


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Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Last post on this.........Libertarians are a group of people with all kinds of different beliefs...Put your bias aside for a minute and admit that is true.

That does not make them liberal. Calling some one a liberal is what you do when you are losing. You have called basically everyone on the board a liberal at one time or another, frequently people who are much more conservative than you. It is an inherently failed argument.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

I don't know I guess they feel they are no threat to the children

So they ate just like gays...
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

That does not make them liberal. Calling some one a liberal is what you do when you are losing. You have called basically everyone on the board a liberal at one time or another, frequently people who are much more conservative than you. It is an inherently failed argument.

You really need to go back and read the thread.....Its not like you to come in totally unprepared......I already said they could be conservatives, liberals, or moderates.\, etc
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

The difference is you are a Liberal, you can't hide it with Libertarian, that is not a political lean and you don't even know it. a Libertarian can be a Liberal, Conservative or moderate among others.

You really need to go back and read the thread.....Its not like you to come in totally unprepared......I already said they could be conservatives, liberals, or moderates.\, etc

No NP, you called him a liberal.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

So if sex outside of marriage is a sin just like being gay, why is being gay the one you focus on? Why are the boy scouts not banning divorced den leaders or adulterer pack dads or whatever they are called.

Its because all sins are really acceptable as long as it isn't gay sex. its because straight people will never be gay, they don't really have that choice. As much as that pretend we do. Now a heterosexual may get a divorce, or have an affair, so those sins aren't as bad.

Take NP's confession to sleeping with a married woman for instance in his mind it's not as bad as gay sex because he isn't tempered by gay sex. He thinks by running me down he gets a better place with God. It's typical little brother complex.

Gay sex isn't necessarily a sin, don't trust charlatans.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

That does not make them liberal. Calling some one a liberal is what you do when you are losing. You have called basically everyone on the board a liberal at one time or another, frequently people who are much more conservative than you. It is an inherently failed argument.

He doesn't even know why he called me a liberal, I do.

I said before a good quote from Socrates " when the debate is lost insults become the tool of the loser"
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Its because all sins are really acceptable as long as it isn't gay sex. its because straight people will never be gay, they don't really have that choice. As much as that pretend we do. Now a heterosexual may get a divorce, or have an affair, so those sins aren't as bad.

Take NP's confession to sleeping with a married woman for instance in his mind it's not as bad as gay sex because he isn't tempered by gay sex. He thinks by running me down he gets a better place with God. It's typical little brother complex.

Gay sex isn't necessarily a sin, don't trust charlatans.

Sleeping with another mans wife is a mortal sin in the eyes of the church..........It happened in 1964 and I confessed it to my priest at my next Confession.........why do I bother the same old garbage over and over again.............You having sex with your BF is a mortal sin to and you must confess it to a priest to be absolved from it.........that is a precept of the Catholic church..............if your a Catholic and you ignore it you will burn in hell..........what does it take to get back on the topic?
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Never believe what? Statistics, facts, sampling?

nope facts aren't his friend. I said it before can I am kind of an expert I did almost get a masters degree and behavioral psych. when someone rejects reality substitute for their own reality that's called delusional. this isn't meant as an insult but based on his pattern for denying reality I I think it's a fair assessment
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

nope facts aren't his friend. I said it before can I am kind of an expert I did almost get a masters degree and behavioral psych. when someone rejects reality substitute for their own reality that's called delusional. this isn't meant as an insult but based on his pattern for denying reality I I think it's a fair assessment

Do you realize that there are some people who believe you are delusional and brainwashed because of your religious beliefs?
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19


Gay boys in a camp over could be a threat that I would not my children have to face,
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Gay boys in a camp over could be a threat that I would not my children have to face,

Straight boys at camp could be a threat. Girls anywhere could be a threat. Your irrational fears of others is not a logical argument.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Sleeping with another mans wife is a mortal sin in the eyes of the church..........It happened in 1964 and I confessed it to my priest at my next Confession.........why do I bother the same old garbage over and over again.............You having sex with your BF is a mortal sin to and you must confess it to a priest to be absolved from it.........that is a precept of the Catholic church..............if your a Catholic and you ignore it you will burn in hell..........what does it take to get back on the topic?

having sex with my husband isn't a mortal sin I don't care what the Catholic Church says when they disagree with Scripture they'er wrong. it isn't a mortal sin to have homosexual sex, the church may say so but they're not correct. I don't have to spite scripture to be called Catholic frankly I'm Catholic because I was confirmed that means I'm Catholic until I'm either excommunicated or die, another thing you don't know about the Catholic Church.

I wouldn't really put any weight in your words when you say anybody's gonna burn in hell not like you know.

what you needed to get this back on topic is stop making in vapid responses
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Straight boys at camp could be a threat. Girls anywhere could be a threat. Your irrational fears of others is not a logical argument.

it's called irrational fear. thinking that gays are just going to sit around and wait till I can get you is almost a paranoid delusion
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Gay boys in a camp over could be a threat that I would not my children have to face,

NP, I'm sorry but there is no factual basis for believing this. On the other hand, there are a number of actual incidents that could support a concern that an openly gay kid at camp would be the one who faces the threat of being harassed and bullied, especially if some of those straight kids are resentful about gay kids being allowed to be there in the first place.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Do you realize that there are some people who believe you are delusional and brainwashed because of your religious beliefs?

I'm not really concerned with what some people think. some might say people who don't believe in God are delusional.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

NP, I'm sorry but there is no factual basis for believing this. On the other hand, there are a number of actual incidents that could support a concern that an openly gay kid at camp would be the one who faces the threat of being harassed and bullied, especially if some of those straight kids are resentful about gay kids being allowed to be there in the first place.

it was never about the fact it was about fear. irrational fear, thinking gays are going to get you is paranoid delusion based in xenophobia.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Straight boys at camp could be a threat. Girls anywhere could be a threat. Your irrational fears of others is not a logical argument.

Why would straight boys be a sexual threat to other straight boys?:confused:
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

NP, I'm sorry but there is no factual basis for believing this. On the other hand, there are a number of actual incidents that could support a concern that an openly gay kid at camp would be the one who faces the threat of being harassed and bullied, especially if some of those straight kids are resentful about gay kids being allowed to be there in the first place.

You can take a chance with your 11 year old boys sleeping in a crowded tent with outted gay boys but I won't..........It really would never have been a problem because my sons would have never would not have wanted to go to that camp...
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Sleeping with another mans wife is a mortal sin in the eyes of the church..........It happened in 1964 and I confessed it to my priest at my next Confession.........why do I bother the same old garbage over and over again.............You having sex with your BF is a mortal sin to and you must confess it to a priest to be absolved from it.........that is a precept of the Catholic church..............if your a Catholic and you ignore it you will burn in hell..........what does it take to get back on the topic?

But if your not a Catholic you can have as much gay sex as you want!!

Loophole :prof
 
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