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Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

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Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Voltaire X said:
There are openly gay members at virtually every camp in America.
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Maybe gay but not openly........sorry.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Homosexuality isn't a sin.
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Well then why did you bring it up?
 
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X Factor said:
I'm really not trying to be offensive. I apologize if I have been. You're just not making much sense to me. On one hand, you say what's in the Bible cannot be trusted because it's gone through so many translations, then you'll cite the Bible to support your positions. You say the Pope is your Pope but yet his teachings don't matter? :confused:
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You are not confused you are exactly right.:2wave:
 
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Your Star said:
It's so not a sin it is really ridiculous to me that any person with an IQ above 75 could read the Bible and say that it is a sin.
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That doesn't make sense. Again, you may not believe those verses but they do exist. BTW, it was Clax that introduced how we're all sinners. I was replying specifically to that.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Homosexuality isn't a sin.
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Your right its not but the sex act outside of marriage is be you straight or gay...Its the worse sin.......Its a mortal sin. You have one of them on your soul your burn in hell.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
to someone unwilling to study the Bible and its original text is doomed to ignorance. ignorance is not a path to the kingdom.

ignorance and arrogance ate hand in hand. and the arrogant delight in their own arrogance.

some people just don't want to let go of false beliefs, sadly that's the path to destruction.
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What are the passages that most believe stating that homosexual sex is sinful actually saying then?
 
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X Factor said:
I'm really not trying to be offensive. I apologize if I have been. You're just not making much sense to me. On one hand, you say what's in the Bible cannot be trusted because it's gone through so many translations, then you'll cite the Bible to support your positions. You say the Pope is your Pope but yet his teachings don't matter? :confused:
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no you not even getting with your own rhetoric now. on 1 hand I say that the translation cannot be trusted on the other hand I'm going by regional Scripture.

I will explain it that book you look at called the Bible its written in modern English language that didn't exist the time when scripture was written and is extremely fluid on the year to year basis isn't actual Scripture.

as far as the pope goes, he is the rock on which the church is built I never deviated from that. he isn't the lord, so is this the jeans go against what the Lord says in Scripture he is wrong. I follow the words of the profits and the Lord first and foremost. so suppose is in disagreement then I don't follow his teachings he is in the Lord and he isn't a profit.
 
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digsbe said:
What are the passages that most believe stating that homosexual sex is sinful actually saying then?
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Here's what the Pope says:

Despite his call for compassion, he has not stepped down from his stance that homosexuality is a moral evil. He stated that the inclination toward homosexuality is not necessarily a sin, it can be considered a "tendency toward an intrinsic moral evil, and thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder." He continued, "A person engaging in homosexual behavior therefore acts immorally," because he feels that sex is only good if framed in the stance of being for procreation between a married man and woman.
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Just one of the problems I have with the Catholic Church.

Roman Catholic Church's Views on Homosexuality Same Sex Marriage and Gay Relationships - Christian Teens - Catholic Church - Homosexuality
 
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MarineTpartier said:
No, I wouldn't. My son has plenty to time after he leaves our household to be exposed to things that we teach him are wrong. We teach him to be non-judgemental, fair, and kind to others. But we do not teach him to be accepting of things that are against our faith. Being gay is against our faith. If my son were to go to a camp and a gay person was there, unbeknowst to us, so be it. We would use it as a teaching moment and move on. By subjecting him to something we know to be present beforehand, we are not properly guarding him against the things we teach him to be wrong.
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What if one of the boys at camp was an open liar? Lying is against your faith, right?
 
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digsbe said:
What are the passages that most believe stating that homosexual sex is sinful actually saying then?
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by the Greek it's really saying that is wrong to take boys as sex slaves. which was really relevant at the time when the Bible was written.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Your right its not but the sex act outside of marriage is be you straight or gay...Its the worse sin.......Its a mortal sin. You have one of them on your sould your burn in hell.
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biblically speaking I'm married.
 
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MaggieD said:
Of COURSE I would let my kids go to camp. And I wouldn't care if anyone there was gay or not....because I wouldn't know about it. But if there are kids at the camp that are advertising they're gay? I have a problem with that. Political correctness takes an easy last to cautious parenting. My views are not factually homophobic. It may be fun to say...but it's untrue. My views are completely and totally based on the behavior of every teenager on planet earth.
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It's okay if they advertise that they are straight though, right?
 
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Navy Pride said:
Your right its not but the sex act outside of marriage is be you straight or gay...Its the worse sin.......Its a mortal sin. You have one of them on your sould your burn in hell.
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then the obvious solution is to legalize gay marriage so that they won't be guilty of a mortal sin.
 
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Navy Pride said:
1. Is gay sex a sin?

2. Do you go to confession and confess your sins.........
I will wait for hell freezes over for your answer.
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1) you have to be more specific, because heterosexual sex with anyone but your spouse is a sin, it doesn't really matter what bits you have between your legs.

2) I confess my sins daily.
 
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X Factor said:
That doesn't make sense. Again, you may not believe those verses but they do exist. BTW, it was Clax that introduced how we're all sinners. I was replying specifically to that.
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I'm saying those verses do not say what people think they say. No way does the Bible condemn homosexuality as we know it today, period.
 
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Navy Pride said:
You are not confused you are exactly right.:2wave:
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Oh Emperor your clothes are so lovely, I can absolutely see them.

another case of blind leading the blind
 
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CLAX1911 said:
1) you have to be more specific, because heterosexual sex with anyone but your spouse is a sin, it doesn't really matter what bits you have between your legs.

2) I confess my sins daily.
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How about gay sex outside of marriage ? Is that a sin? You are right straight sex outside of marriage is a mortal sin the same as gay sex outside of marriage.

Do you confess it and to who? Who is the leader of your church? Is he the pope..............

Please answer my questions I am very curious about your Catholic church.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
then the obvious solution is to legalize gay marriage so that they won't be guilty of a mortal sin.
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the Bible doesn't really make a parlay with law of a country that didn't exist until 1500 years after it was written. marriage biblically speaking starts when you have promised yourself to somebody. it never says anything about going down to the county clerk's office and obtaining a marriage license.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Oh Emperor your clothes are so lovely, I can absolutely see them.

another case of blind leading the blind
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I am done with you.......You make all these foolish statements about the Catholic Church and can not back up any.........You are the epitome of a hater.........Have a good evening.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
the Bible doesn't really make a parlay with law of a country that didn't exist until 1500 years after it was written. marriage biblically speaking starts when you have promised yourself to somebody. it never says anything about going down to the county clerk's office and obtaining a marriage license.
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Oh.
Then, as long as the couple has promised themselves to each other, sex is no sin whether it is hetero or homo.
 
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Navy Pride said:
How about gay sex outside of marriage ? Is that a sin? You are right straight sex outside of marriage is a mortal sin the same as gay sex outside of marriage.

Do you confess it and to who? Who is the leader of your church? Is he the pope..............

Please answer my questions I am very curious about your Catholic church.
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1) gay sex outside of biblical marriage is a sin, Biblically I am married.

2) I confess my sins to the Almighty. I will confess right now.

I have sinned in what I have done and what I failed to do to you my brothers and sisters and to my father in heaven. I confess.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Oh.
Then, as long as the couple has promised themselves to each other, sex is no sin whether it is hetero or homo.
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I really don't see any biblical support to believe otherwise.
 
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Navy Pride said:
I am done with you.......You make all these foolish statements about the Catholic Church and can not back up any.........You are the epitome of a hater.........Have a good evening.
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correction you were be done before you started this silly thread. now be gone and spread no more lies.

goodbye and thanks for playing, next time bring your A game.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Oh Emperor your clothes are so lovely, I can absolutely see them.

another case of blind leading the blind
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Your arguments are a little convenient. You'll cite the Bible, in English, to back your positions, but if someone else quotes a passage that you don't like, you'll say it doesn't really mean what it plainly says. How is your own translation more accurate than the numerous other English translations which you say aren't actually Scripture?
 
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