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Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

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Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Thorgasm said:
Why do you think homosexuality is something your son needs to be protected from?
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She has answered that question 3 or 4 times.
 
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Goshin said:
I've been thinking more about this question, of whether I'd let my kid go out camping with openly gay members or leaders, as in a Scout troop type situation.


Y'know... I'd have a concern if it was mixed boys and girls (if some were over 12), because of the potential for some of the youngsters to sneak around and have sex if not carefully supervised.

If you have all boys (and men Scoutmasters) but some are gay... the same concern applies, doesn't it? Because you have people who might be sexually attracted to each other camping out in the woods together, and most of them are underage.

You'd need lots of good supervision.


So anyway, I would not be crazy about the idea no.
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Thinking about it some more, I actually do understand that concern. If I was sure of they would be well supervised I wouldn't have a problem with it, or if I was sure my son wasn't gay. But I understand what you mean, and its a valid concern.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Huh:confused:
are you saaying the gay boys are worried about being abused by the straight boys who are repulsed by gay activity?
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straight boys are indifferent to it, not repulsed by it. closet cases make all this fuss.

it's normally indicative of some latent homo sexuality, or repressed memories of sexual abuse that makes people react in is repulsed way.

basically speaking you protest too much, I ask who you trying to convince
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

CLAX1911 said:
straight boys are indifferent to it, not repulsed by it. closet cases make all this fuss.

it's normally indicative of some latent homo sexuality, or repressed memories of sexual abuse that makes people react in is repulsed way.

basically speaking you protest too much, I ask who you trying to convince
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Oh, just stop it. You can do better than this.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Do you think conservative means "anti-gay"?
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I can't speak for all conservatives but myself and the conservatives I know ......we are not homophobes or bigots.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

CLAX1911 said:
straight boys are indifferent to it, not repulsed by it. closet cases make all this fuss.

it's normally indicative of some latent homo sexuality, or repressed memories of sexual abuse that makes people react in is repulsed way.

basically speaking you protest too much, I ask who you trying to convince
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I am a straight guy and the sex acts you indulge in are disgusting to me I defend your right to do them in the privacy of your home.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

MaggieD said:
An anomoly isn't necessarily bad. I don't see homosexuality as bad either. But. If my son is homosexual, he will find out on his own -- not because some kids talked him into experimenting while he's away at camp. Definition of anomoly I'm using is:
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So you would protect him from an "anomoly"?

C'mon, I realize that you are trying to not come off as saying you don't want your son to be gay, but it's not working. As if homosexuality was something you could be talked into.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Why do you think homosexuality is something your son needs to be protected from?
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I think that teenagers who are openly gay are liable to encourage others to join their ranks. Maybe that's wrong. But I'm coming from a place that says, "Teenagers are sometimes nutz. Some teens think it's really cool to be bi- or gay. And just as a teen shoplifter would encourage others to join their ranks? So might a gay guy."

Riddle me this: If my 10-year-old is manipulated to have guy-on-guy sex by a 14-year-old, how is that any less a traumatic experience than if it was an 18-year-old manipulating him?

Thorgasm said:
So you would protect him from an "anomoly"?

C'mon, I realize that you are trying to not come off as saying you don't want your son to be gay, but it's not working. As if homosexuality was something you could be talked into.
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Well, of course I wouldn't want my son to be gay. You say, "As if homosexuality was something you could be talked into." Do you think for one New York Minute that the boys molested by priests were all homosexual???
 
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Navy Pride said:
I am a straight guy and the sex acts you indulge in are disgusting to me I defend your right to do them in the privacy of your home.
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Now all of the sudden you are conservative?

If you don't care what sex I have than why carry on for 66 pages griping about it?
 
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KevinKohler said:
In the end, none of that will matter. Parents killed the boy scouts, nothing else.
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The BSA are doing fine in the town I live..My 3 grandsons all belong and they love it......I asked one of them what he would do if gay scouts could serve....He said he would quit..........He is 12.
 
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MaggieD said:
I think that teenagers who are openly gay are liable to encourage others to join their ranks. Maybe that's wrong. But I'm coming from a place that says, "Teenagers are sometimes nutz. Some teens think it's really cool to be bi- or gay. And just as a teen shoplifter would encourage others to join their ranks? So might a gay guy."

Riddle me this: If my 10-year-old is manipulated to have guy-on-guy sex by a 14-year-old, how is that any less a traumatic experience than if it was an 18-year-old manipulating him?
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Listen, you raise you kids however you want, I don't wish to tell you you are wrong.

But I want to ask if you think your kid will turn gay for being in proximity to gay people, you kids isn't strait. People don't convert.
 
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MaggieD said:
13- 14- 15-year-olds who are openly gay? They make me uncomfortable.
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Are there any other anomalies that make you uncomfortable?
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

CLAX1911 said:
Listen, you raise you kids however you want, I don't wish to tell you you are wrong.

But I want to ask if you think your kid will turn gay for being in proximity to gay people, you kids isn't strait. People don't convert.
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I do NOT believe my son would turn gay, for God's sake. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, not (in most cases) a choice. Those who believe otherwise are freakin' nutz.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

CLAX1911 said:
Now all of the sudden you are conservative?

If you don't care what sex I have than why carry on for 66 pages griping about it?
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because gay scouts would infringe on other peoples rights, the pright of a private organization and that is against the constitution?
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there we

Goshin said:
I've been thinking more about this question, of whether I'd let my kid go out camping with openly gay members or leaders, as in a Scout troop type situation.


Y'know... I'd have a concern if it was mixed boys and girls (if some were over 12), because of the potential for some of the youngsters to sneak around and have sex if not carefully supervised.

If you have all boys (and men Scoutmasters) but some are gay... the same concern applies, doesn't it? Because you have people who might be sexually attracted to each other camping out in the woods together, and most of them are underage.

You'd need lots of good supervision.


So anyway, I would not be crazy about the idea no.
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But wouldn't those concerns be only limited to those members who are actually gay?
 
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Navy Pride said:
The BSA are doing fine in the town I live..My 3 grandsons all belong and they love it......I asked one of them what he would do if gay scouts could serve....He said he would quit..........He is 12.
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No offense, but I think this is probably a prejudice he's picked up at home. ;)

I asked my cousin today what she would do. She said it wouldn't make a twit worth of difference to her. I asked, "But what if your boys (she has 2 grown) were 10 and 12? She said, "Maggie, by that age, my kids knew how their father felt about gays. It would not be a problem." So there is THAT bit of home prejudice to account for. It's not a good thing, but it's there.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Navy Pride said:
because gay scouts would infringe on other peoples rights, the pright of a private organization and that is against the constitution?
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Isn't it the Boy Scouts that's actually considering their own policy? Nobody's forcing them.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

CLAX1911 said:
You can't even defend your false claims that the Bible condemns homosexuality.
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The Roman Catholic church does........I have to admit I am not a scholar pn the bible like you but I will take their word for it.
 
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MaggieD said:
I do NOT believe my son would turn gay, for God's sake. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, not (in most cases) a choice. Those who believe otherwise are freakin' nutz.
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Oh, I am sorry, I am not trying to piss you off Maggy, you just seem the most reasonable one in this forum. I asked you because I know I would get an honest answer.

I know you are on the defensive due to several attacks. But I really just was wanting to know what this was all about.
 
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X Factor said:
Isn't it the Boy Scouts that's actually considering their own policy? Nobody's forcing them.
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that is hard to say my left wing friend.........There are gay organizations pushing it.
 
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X Factor said:
But wouldn't those concerns be only limited to those members who are actually gay?
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Bud, I don't pretend to know all there is about human sexuality... but as I've said before, I don't believe in inborn and immutable orientation. I think we're all potentially changeable under the right circumstances, in behaviors if not in what is commonly called "orientation". Prison behavior is a good example.

So maybe, maybe not.

I'm just admitting it would make me kinda uncomfortable and raise some concerns.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

CLAX1911 said:
Oh, I am sorry, I am not trying to piss you off Maggy, you just seem the most reasonable one in this forum. I asked you because I know I would get an honest answer.

I know you are on the defensive due to several attacks. But I really just was wanting to know what this was all about.
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*Hugs*
 
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