• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

  • Total voters
    175
Status
Not open for further replies.
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Navy Pride said:
He without sin cast the first stone.
Click to expand...

LOL....then why are you always the one casting all the stones?

You love to come on here and point fingers at people and talk about "morals" and "values".....when you don't even live by them yourself.

I, personally, have never made the claim that I am without sin.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

disneydude said:
You are completely wrong. Of course there are some gays...just like some straights that are "Creepy" guys that you wouldn't want your kids around. But it is completely naive to believe that you are somehow "protecting" your children with a blanket policy that you wouldn't send your kid to a camp with an openly gay counselor. The reality is....THAT counselor is not likely to be a "molestor" and chances are...you stand a greater risk sending them to a camp with supposedly straight/married in the closet counselors. But yet...certain people are perfectly fine with that because they pull the wool over their eyes and pretend that their children are safe.
Click to expand...

My kids, my rules. That is just how it is when it comes to this hypothetical.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

CLAX1911 said:
left wing? who said I was left wing? how does conservative as you are. the only difference is a far better understanding Scripture then you do.
Click to expand...

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck then its usually a duck my left wing friend, now lets try and stay on topic......This thread is not about me.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Navy Pride said:
How many times do I have to post this...........


My parish priest preaches again gay sex in his homily..........That is good enough for me and my family
Click to expand...

then it's not a Christian Church or Catholic Church stop lying
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Aderleth said:
And that's just as true for straight people. More, in fact, if you look at the statistics. Given those two unavoidable facts, it's hard to avoid the further conclusion that this fixation that Maggie, and NP, and (apparently) you have about creepy gay people is - to put it mildly - unfair.
Click to expand...

I do not deny there are creepy straight people, but that is not really the focus of the question in the OP. I am not comfortable with sleep away camps generally anyway.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Fisher said:
My kids, my rules. That is just how it is when it comes to this hypothetical.
Click to expand...

and that's fine and how it should be. But it is, nonetheless naive and negligent to believe that you are somehow "protecting" them when in reality you are probably doing just the opposite.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

americanwoman said:
First of all I love "my left wing friend" still ... Hello Navy hope u are good.

On topic now I dont have a son but I do have lots of nephews and gay relatives who are just fine to hang out together or camp. As with any stranger gay or straight I would be cautious to let them go unless I knew them and was sure there is no second agenda. I would not let "gay" define someone's character as to whether or not they could be trusted wiith a child I love. Predators come in all forms
Click to expand...

Are you OK with them openly sleeping in small tents with openly gay boys........We are talking about 10 or 11 year old boys......Very subject to peer presssure.If you are then would you let the boys sleep with the girls in a coed situation.

I am fine how are you? I hope you and your family are well......I have missed your good posts.:2wave:
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Navy Pride said:
Are you OK with them openly sleeping in small tents with openly gay boys........We are talking about 10 or 11 year old boys......Very subject to peer presssure.If you are then would you let the boys sleep with the girls in a coed situation.

I am fine how are you? I hope you and your family are well......I have missed your good posts.:2wave:
Click to expand...

More same sex childhood sexual experimentation takes place among straight boys than gay boys. That is simple Psychology 101 if you've ever taken a course.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

americanwoman said:
First of all I love "my left wing friend" still ... Hello Navy hope u are good.

On topic now I dont have a son but I do have lots of nephews and gay relatives who are just fine to hang out together or camp. As with any stranger gay or straight I would be cautious to let them go unless I knew them and was sure there is no second agenda. I would not let "gay" define someone's character as to whether or not they could be trusted wiith a child I love. Predators come in all forms
Click to expand...

Yes, they do, including (although more rarely) women. Where I have a problem is in the assumption that whether one is straight or gay, one is a pedophile--a predator.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Fisher said:
I do not deny there are creepy straight people, but that is not really the focus of the question in the OP. I am not comfortable with sleep away camps generally anyway.
Click to expand...

Of course it's not the focus, because NP isn't remotely interested in looking at this issue in a rational, non-homophobic way. Neither is Maggie (*Edit - Maggie probably is interested in doing so, but isn't actually doing so at the moment*). By making the focus on the presence or absense of a gay child at the camp, they're both ignoring the very obvious fact that undesirable sexual experimentation is potentially a problem at any sleepaway camp (or for that matter, in a million other contexts). The very fact that NP is raising this as strictly a gay issue demonstrates how bigoted he is on this issue.
 
Last edited:
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Navy Pride said:
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck then its usually a duck my left wing friend, now lets try and stay on topic......This thread is not about me.
Click to expand...

You said I was left wing, I am on topic. you're just told think what you thinkBy politicians with Rs by their name.

I'm just like you, I'm Catholic I'm conservative I atempted to join the Navy. it's just you hold I rather odd belief regarding my sexuality, which isn't very conservative. It is my opinion, a conservative one, no nobody should really middle of my private life.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

CLAX1911 said:
then it's not a Christian Church or Catholic Church stop lying
Click to expand...


Saint Gabriels parish????????
:lamo
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

disneydude said:
and that's fine and how it should be. But it is, nonetheless naive and negligent to believe that you are somehow "protecting" them when in reality you are probably doing just the opposite.
Click to expand...

I have a lesbian relative and her partner who have babysat for me before. I have so many gay people in so many branches of my family that the family tree is decorated absolutely fabulously. It is not always about homophobia believe it or not. I have no ideas how my kids would react to that situation living with an openly gay peer--they could turn into the kid who stoned Matthew Shepherd to death or be willing to go along with that kid who did that for all I know. It is more about what I think they might or might not be comfortable with.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Navy Pride said:
Are you OK with them openly sleeping in small tents with openly gay boys........We are talking about 10 or 11 year old boys......Very subject to peer presssure.If you are then would you let the boys sleep with the girls in a coed situation.

I am fine how are you? I hope you and your family are well......I have missed your good posts.:2wave:
Click to expand...

you're dodging it again like a coward. your priest is teaching false Christianity. and you're not Catholic you're a liar.

come on and beat some of the skills and knowledge if you're man enough.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Navy Pride said:
Saint Gabriels parish????????
:lamo
Click to expand...

your priest is misinformed. or your pearly not reading Scripture. then I'm in a Catholic Church we read the Bible. does that parish read The Satanic Verses? or Cat in the Hat?
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Fisher said:
I have a lesbian relative and her partner who have babysat for me before. I have so many gay people in so many branches of my family that the family tree is decorated absolutely fabulously. It is not always about homophobia believe it or not. I have no ideas how my kids would react to that situation living with an openly gay peer--they could turn into the kid who stoned Matthew Shepherd to death or be willing to go along with that kid who did that for all I know. It is more about what I think they might or might not be comfortable with.
Click to expand...

shame on you for raising such a spineless children.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Navy pride, I think it's hilarious, that you've been out maned by a queer.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

CLAX1911 said:
your priest is misinformed. or your pearly not reading Scripture. then I'm in a Catholic Church we read the Bible. does that parish read The Satanic Verses? or Cat in the Hat?
Click to expand...

Such hate...........If you want to try and debate like a sane person ok...If not have a nice day.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

disneydude said:
More same sex childhood sexual experimentation takes place among straight boys than gay boys. That is simple Psychology 101 if you've ever taken a course.
Click to expand...

do you have a citation for this?
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

why all these hateful and personal attacks from our left wing friends?:(
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

CLAX1911 said:
shame on you for raising such a spineless children.
Click to expand...

My children are 5 and 2.......at this point the two year old might be the anti-Christ for all I know--could go either way. I am not sure yet. This is all theoretical for me at this point in time so I am at least trying to be as intellectually honest as I can be.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Dr. Chuckles said:
do you have a citation for this?
Click to expand...

Of course he doesn't he simply through **** against the wall and hopes it will stick......It never does.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Navy Pride said:
why all these hateful and personal attacks from our left wing friends?:(
Click to expand...

Why haven't you answered my very straightforward question?
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Dr. Chuckles said:
do you have a citation for this?
Click to expand...

Not off hand...however, I'm sure I can find it. It was widely discussed in a number of psychology classes that I had in college...
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Navy Pride said:
Such hate...........If you want to try and debate like a sane person ok...If not have a nice day.
Click to expand...

I am debating like that sane person. I actually studied Greek Scripture with the priest regarding this topic. never found a single mention of homosexuality in any Scripture. the priest I was studying with, father Propolis, was fluent in Greek which is the original text of Corinthians and leviticus from the Old Testament and Timothy from the New Testament.

If my priest says homosexuality isn't mentioned in the original Scripture and yours is preaching against it there's a problem someone is wrong. we have scripture to back me up, what do you have?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom