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Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?


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I have this fear that a camp could cater to the homosexual too much and then ruin the experience for the child..
Imagine(as an example) that only swimming, and nothing but swimming was on the camps schedule of activities...24 hours per day this becomes old after a few days....
But, of course, I doubt if any camp or like facility will openly state " gays accepted " or something like that....
I do not care about the presence of gays....I highly doubt if I would even know about it.....and gays have the same rights to attend the same camp...

I simply do not want a camp where "homos rule" - if there is such a thing....

In what possible way would a camp cater to the openly gay members too much? You think there gonna show gay porn every other day after swimming?
 
I have this fear that a camp could cater to the homosexual too much and then ruin the experience for the child..
Imagine(as an example) that only swimming, and nothing but swimming was on the camps schedule of activities...24 hours per day this becomes old after a few days....
But, of course, I doubt if any camp or like facility will openly state " gays accepted " or something like that....
I do not care about the presence of gays....I highly doubt if I would even know about it.....and gays have the same rights to attend the same camp...

I simply do not want a camp where "homos rule" - if there is such a thing....

What "catering" does a homosexual need, exactly?

It's not like camp is a hook-up environment. They don't require any sort of "catering."

There is only one difference between gay people and straight people: who they prefer in romantic and/or sexual relationships. Camps do not cater to romantic or sexual desires. So what is the issue?

If there is an emphasis on story sharing at the camp, I think gay attendants should feel free to share their stories about relationships or coming out. But that isn't "catering" any more than it would be to say that someone can share their religious and family experiences, since each is unique.
 
X Factor rubs his chin and thinks, "Hmmmm"

You misspelled "hoplologist".

Okpulot Taha - Choctaw Nation

Terrific avatar, love the feathers.
 
Here's a more interesting question Navy:

Would you let your children attend a camp where there are closeted gay people?

If they are in the closet how do we know they are gay?:confused:
 
Is it possible that people who hate gay people and who are parents do more harm to their children by teaching them to fear and hate gay people than gay people could ever do to those kids? Personally, I believe that is the case.

at 11 years old I would be making those decisions not my sons or daughters.
 
Not me, unless I knew boys and girls would have separate sleeping quarters. Call me old fashioned but I would lot let my little girl share a tent with a boy even if there was a chaperone in a nearby tent (possibly fast asleep themselves and certainly not staring at them all night, which itself would also be troubling). Hard for me to get my mind around how any parent would be okay with that but to each his own.

I can remember when I was in the BSA we set up tents where 4 or 5 boys slept and there was not much room.
 
at 11 years old I would be making those decisions not my sons or daughters.

What decisions are you talking about? I didn't say anything about decisions.
 
I'd never send my offspring to any camp where hatred of others(social conservatism) is the primary agenda of that camp !

Looks like you were just hating on social conservatives. If it's wrong to hate on gays, as a societal group, shouldn't it be equally wrong to hate on social conservatives as a group? And God help the gay social conservative - you may not know it, but there are such people - would you love them because they're gay but hate them because they're social conservatives?

How about we treat people as individuals and only condemn them when they actually do something worth condemning.
 
I can remember when I was in the BSA we set up tents where 4 or 5 boys slept and there was not much room.

I can all but guarantee you've showered with gay guys too.

If you've ever taken a shower in a group shower setting, you've more than likely exposed your naughty bits to a gay guy.

How's that bite your apple?
 
What decisions are you talking about? I didn't say anything about decisions.

The decision to attend a BSA camp where openly gays attend.
 
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I can all but guarantee you've showered with gay guys too.

If you've ever taken a shower in a group shower setting, you've more than likely exposed your naughty bits to a gay guy.

How's that bite your apple?

I don't know about the BSA but in the Navy I am sure I did although we had shower stalls on the ships I served on with curtains so I had some privacy.......Oh and in Boot Camp we all showered to gether..........Whether there were gays showering with us I do not know.......Your point is?:confused:
 
The decision to attend a BSA camp where openly gys attend.

That had nothing to do with my comment to which you responded. Of course you'd make the decision as to where your kid goes to camp. The issue is doing damage to kids. I suggested that parents who teach their children to fear and hate gay people, who portray gay people as predators and alien creatures not to be trusted, as different, etc., do more damage to their kid than any gay camp counselor would, and I say a gay counselor would do zero damage to a kid. But teach kids to loathe other people over such trivial things and you turn out someone who does more damage and contributes actual negativity to his community. Having a gay camp counselor, though, is utterly harmless.
 
I don't know about the BSA but in the Navy I am sure I did although we had shower stalls on the ships I served on with curtains so I had some privacy.......Your point is?:confused:

The point is simple.

Don't be such a scaredy-cat.

Gay people are not out to get you.
They won't infect you.
They are not contagious.
You, your kids, and grandkids are all safe from THE GAY.

I'd be much more worried about tobacco, alcohol, and drugs.

Gay isn't something to fear.
 
I do see why not. It's generally pretty good for children to interact with society and the different groups that make up society.

70 years ago this question would involve letting your kids camp with a black person.
 
That had nothing to do with my comment to which you responded. Of course you'd make the decision as to where your kid goes to camp. The issue is doing damage to kids. I suggested that parents who teach their children to fear and hate gay people, who portray gay people as predators and alien creatures not to be trusted, as different, etc., do more damage to their kid than any gay camp counselor would, and I say a gay counselor would do zero damage to a kid. But teach kids to loathe other people over such trivial things and you turn out someone who does more damage and contributes actual negativity to his community. Having a gay camp counselor, though, is utterly harmless.

My children like I am are Roman Catholic they are taught by me and the church to love the sinner and hate the sin whether it be straight or gay.
 
That had nothing to do with my comment to which you responded. Of course you'd make the decision as to where your kid goes to camp. The issue is doing damage to kids. I suggested that parents who teach their children to fear and hate gay people, who portray gay people as predators and alien creatures not to be trusted, as different, etc., do more damage to their kid than any gay camp counselor would, and I say a gay counselor would do zero damage to a kid. But teach kids to loathe other people over such trivial things and you turn out someone who does more damage and contributes actual negativity to his community. Having a gay camp counselor, though, is utterly harmless.

Is Navy Pride afraid of gay pedophile counselors, or gay kids mingling with straight kids????

If this is about pedophilia, then for fornication's sake....haven't we covered that about a ga-gillion times????

gay does not equal pedophile
 
That had nothing to do with my comment to which you responded. Of course you'd make the decision as to where your kid goes to camp. The issue is doing damage to kids. I suggested that parents who teach their children to fear and hate gay people, who portray gay people as predators and alien creatures not to be trusted, as different, etc., do more damage to their kid than any gay camp counselor would, and I say a gay counselor would do zero damage to a kid. But teach kids to loathe other people over such trivial things and you turn out someone who does more damage and contributes actual negativity to his community. Having a gay camp counselor, though, is utterly harmless.

I have to say I'd be shocked if parents are actively describing things in this way. More likely, parents are broadening their "warnings" to their children about not going anywhere with strangers, not letting anyone touch you where you don't want to be touched, etc. etc. - I can't imagine that a parent portrays "gay people as predators and alien creatures not to be trusted". That just sounds like a bunch of liberal hate nonsense directed at parents who disagree with you.
 
I do see why not. It's generally pretty good for children to interact with society and the different groups that make up society.

70 years ago this question would involve letting your kids camp with a black person.

I was inthe BSA about 60 years ago and we had blacks in our troop and had no problem with it.........What your doing is using the class warfare that the left always uses as their talking points.
 
I was inthe BSA about 60 years ago and we had blacks in our troop and had no problem with it.........What your doing is using the class warfare that the left always uses as their talking points.


No. He's relating one irrational fear to another.
 
My children like I am are Roman Catholic they are taught by me and the church to love the sinner and hate the sin whether it be straight or gay.

Seems to me the Catholic Church didn't "hate the sin" of those molesting priests all that much. I belong to the Episcopal Church, and I understand that judging others to even BE sinners is not up to me. But, if you want to keep it in the religious vernacular, I would say that, again, teaching children to fear and loathe others not because of a character trait but because of genetic traits is itself a sin.

So we have a conundrum.
 
If they are in the closet how do we know they are gay?:confused:

LOL...exactly my point NP...Thank you for proving it once again. You are perfectly fine sending your child to a camp where "Straight" "Married" closed homosexuals are....but freak out at the prospect of an honest gay person. Its called paranoia for a false sense of security.
 
I was inthe BSA about 60 years ago and we had blacks in our troop and had no problem with it.........What your doing is using the class warfare that the left always uses as their talking points.

That's not true at all...I'm just saying that not allowing your kids to interact with people you may be prejudiced against isn't exactly a new thing.

It was one of the major reason for busing....which was pretty unpopular.
 
I have to say I'd be shocked if parents are actively describing things in this way. More likely, parents are broadening their "warnings" to their children about not going anywhere with strangers, not letting anyone touch you where you don't want to be touched, etc. etc. - I can't imagine that a parent portrays "gay people as predators and alien creatures not to be trusted". That just sounds like a bunch of liberal hate nonsense directed at parents who disagree with you.


Thank you...I could have not put it better.
 
That's not true at all...I'm just saying that not allowing your kids to interact with people you may be prejudiced against isn't exactly a new thing.

It was one of the major reason for busing....which was pretty unpopular.

Because you don't agree its untrue but as usual on most of your posts your bias attitude is wrong and we did have black scouts and there was no problem with it.................Oh and I joined the Navy in 1956 and we had black sailors and no one had a problem with it...............Again you leftys like to pit the classes against one another but in this case you are flat wrong.
 
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