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Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

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Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

disneydude said:
Take a look at the facts:

Scalia is 76
Kennedy is 76
Ginsburg is 79
Breyer is 74
Sotomayor, Kagan and Roberts are in their 50's
Thomas and Alito in their 60's

Ginsburg will leave for sure. She is a left leaning moderate
Breyer will most likely go. He is left leaning moderate
The other two are more of long shots. Kennedy is a right-leaning moderate and Scalia is an activist right-winger.

Face it NP...the ONLY hope that you have to a right-wing activist court is if Kennedy hangs on for the next election and nothing happens to Scalia's health. Even then....you guys are going to have to beat Hilary and that's going to be extremely tough to do.

Nah....you won't see it in your lifetime. But you WILL see true marriage equality in your lifetime. At least if you make it to summer.
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actually in your seventies is not that old for a SCJ.

Ginsberg and Bryer moderates ...:lamo
 
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Navy Pride said:
actually in your seventies is not that old for a SCJ.

Ginsberg and Bryer moderates ...:lamo
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Well then the liberals are not old either, so you are still wrong. Well done NP, you went from wrong cuz you made **** up, to still wrong when facts got presented. And speaking of facts, got any sources to back up all the wild assed claims you made in this thread, like 99 % of pedophile priests are gay?
 
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Navy Pride said:
actually in your seventies is not that old for a SCJ.

Ginsberg and Bryer moderates ...:lamo
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Scalia will be 80 by the end of Obama's term. He will hang on unless he develops health issues
Breyer and Ginsburg are absolutely moderates...whether you think so or not. Look at their voting records.


Kennedy will also be 80 at the end of Obama's term. Kennedy likely will hang on as well unless he develops health issues...but any male approaching 80 is likely to encounter health issues, so it is not outside the realm of possibility that Obama may have as many as 4 additional appointments. Two are pretty much guaranteed....

But it goes back to my original question....where are you going to get that 5th vote? Your only hope is that Kennedy stays on and neither he nor Scalia have health issues nearing 80 years of age. Outside that....a 5th right-wing activist vote is virtually impossible.....and THEN you gotta hope that the GOP can find someone to beat Hilary, who likely would have those two appointments in her first term. Any way that you cut it....it isn't looking good for you old man.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

disneydude said:
Take a look at the facts:

Scalia is 76
Kennedy is 76
Ginsburg is 79
Breyer is 74
Sotomayor, Kagan and Roberts are in their 50's
Thomas and Alito in their 60's

Ginsburg will leave for sure. She is a left leaning moderate
Breyer will most likely go. He is left leaning moderate
The other two are more of long shots. Kennedy is a right-leaning moderate and Scalia is an activist right-winger.

Face it NP...the ONLY hope that you have to a right-wing activist court is if Kennedy hangs on for the next election and nothing happens to Scalia's health. Even then....you guys are going to have to beat Hilary and that's going to be extremely tough to do.

Nah....you won't see it in your lifetime. But you WILL see true marriage equality in your lifetime. At least if you make it to summer.
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So you have one conservative in the seventies and the rest in the sixties.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

disneydude said:
Scalia will be 80 by the end of Obama's term. He will hang on unless he develops health issues
Breyer and Ginsburg are absolutely moderates...whether you think so or not. Look at their voting records.


Kennedy will also be 80 at the end of Obama's term. Kennedy likely will hang on as well unless he develops health issues...but any male approaching 80 is likely to encounter health issues, so it is not outside the realm of possibility that Obama may have as many as 4 additional appointments. Two are pretty much guaranteed....

But it goes back to my original question....where are you going to get that 5th vote? Your only hope is that Kennedy stays on and neither he nor Scalia have health issues nearing 80 years of age. Outside that....a 5th right-wing activist vote is virtually impossible.....and THEN you gotta hope that the GOP can find someone to beat Hilary, who likely would have those two appointments in her first term. Any way that you cut it....it isn't looking good for you old man.
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Bryer and Ginsberg are two of the biggest Liberals ever to be on the court.........Kennedy is a Moderate.........If your not ready to at least concede that then we really have nothing to talk about...Have a nice day.
 
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MarineTpartier said:
All sin that is possible to be committed. So not just homosexuality, but all sin.
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Isn't that pointless, though, given the fact that he is already a sinner by virtue of original sin?
 
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Navy Pride said:
So you have one conservative in the seventies and the rest in the sixties.
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More like...you have 3 moderates in their 70's and 1 right-wing extremist. All the rest of the court is in their 50's/60's.

So again...NP....where are you going to get that 5th vote? Luckily no Republican has won in the last 2 elections so Democrats were able to protect the balance of the court. If McCain or Romney would have won, the balance of the court would have been tipped dramatically. When Ginsburg and Breyer leave....Obama will protect the court probably with more moderates. If Kennedy leaves that would be great and if Scalia leaves that would be awesome. Probably isn't going to happen. But even with Obama replacing another 2, probably with younger justices like Roberts, Kagan and Sotomayor...the integrity of the Court should be protected pretty well for at least my generation. It Kennedy leaves or if a Democrat wins the next election, the balance will be protected on the court for years to come.

Where are you going to get that 5th vote that you so desperately want NP?
 
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Navy Pride said:

Bryer and Ginsberg are two of the biggest Liberals ever to be on the court.........Kennedy is a Moderate.........If your not ready to at least concede that then we really have nothing to talk about...Have a nice day.
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Sorry....but the facts say otherwise. Ginsburg and Breyer are left leaning moderates at best. Kennedy is a right-leaning moderate. There haven't been any true liberals on the court for near two decades.
 
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You have to love Navy. He thinks all pedophiles are gay and any act of child molestation is some sort of sick gay love.
 
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Top Cat said:
You have to love Navy. He thinks all pedophiles are gay and any act of child molestation is some sort of sick gay love.
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why do you lie and make stupid statements like that.......Do you think its cute and your trying to impress your liberal friends...Read the threads for once..........
 
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disneydude said:
Sorry....but the facts say otherwise. Ginsburg and Breyer are left leaning moderates at best. Kennedy is a right-leaning moderate. There haven't been any true liberals on the court for near two decades.
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I already told you that I am done with you on this subject.......Maybe its because your so far left that other libs look like moderates to you....Check their voting record for Gods sake.
 
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Navy Pride said:

why do you lie and make stupid statements like that.......Do you think its cute and your trying to impress your liberal friends...Read the threads for once..........
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It's a lie? Really? Clearly it is precisely what you think. You keep proving it over and over.
 
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Top Cat said:
It's a lie? Really? Clearly it is precisely what you think. You keep proving it over and over.
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I have stated many times that not all gays are pedophiles...What part of that do you not understand?????
 
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Navy Pride said:
So you have one conservative in the seventies and the rest in the sixties.
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Regardless of how old the members of the SCOTUS may be, Roe V. Wade will be overturned when Hell freezes, pigs fly, and San Francisco votes Republican.

Not only is trying to outlaw abortion a losing battle, not only is it tantamount to tilting at windmills, there is at least fairly convincing evidence that Romney lost at least partially due to that issue.


So, do we keep tiling at windmills, or do we pick a battle that is winnable?
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Regardless of how old the members of the SCOTUS may be, Roe V. Wade will be overturned when Hell freezes, pigs fly, and San Francisco votes Republican.

Not only is trying to outlaw abortion a losing battle, not only is it tantamount to tilting at windmills, there is at least fairly convincing evidence that Romney lost at least partially due to that issue.


So, do we keep tiling at windmills, or do we pick a battle that is winnable?
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God how you are so misinformed on this issue.......Conservatives are trying to get Roe V Wade (which even Libs agree is bad law.) is bad law and want the issue returned to the states where it belongs........The Federal Gov. should not be in the abortion business period.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Navy Pride said:

why do you lie and make stupid statements like that.......Do you think its cute and your trying to impress your liberal friends...Read the threads for once..........
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It's accurate.
 
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Navy Pride said:
OK I reworded my post and I apologize if I offended anyone with my last poll.......I am and old country boy and sometimes the meaning is not what I meant....I really would like to know how the members of the forum feel about this issue.
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Why wouldn't I? I mean unless the person is a rapist
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Navy Pride said:
I have stated many times that not all gays are pedophiles...What part of that do you not understand?????
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ha ha...thanks for proving my point.
 
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Navy Pride said:
God how you are so misinformed on this issue.......Conservatives are trying to get Roe V Wade (which even Libs agree is bad law.) is bad law .
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Yet more bull**** from Navy. You speaking for liberals? Hilarious.
 
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Top Cat said:
Yet more bull**** from Navy. You speaking for liberals? Hilarious.
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Unlike you I keep up with the current news..you should try it.
 
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Navy Pride said:
I already told you that I am done with you on this subject.......Maybe its because your so far left that other libs look like moderates to you....Check their voting record for Gods sake.
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Seriously dude.....you are such an extremist that anyone to the left of Scalia would be considered a "radical leftist" to you. The facts speak otherwise....so go ahead and live in your own world. I know their voting record quite well. The Supreme Court covers all areas of the law.....not just a handful of social issues which seem to be the only thing that matter to people of your ilk. The reality is...there hasn't been a true "liberal" on the court for almost 2 decades...and with today's political temperature there probably won't. Obama isn't going to appoint a true liberal. What he will do is appoint left leaning moderates. One thing that you probably don't understand Navy is that there are actually very few "liberal" judges. Judges tend to start off as prosecutor's who are by and large moderate-conservative. Sorry that the facts don't fit into your agenda....but the funny thing about facts. Try as you might...facts are facts you can try to manipulate, spin and change them...but they remain the facts. Sorry.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Unlike you I keep up with the current news..you should try it.
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Maybe true, but the filter you use (you) is seriously flawed.
 
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Navy Pride said:
God how you are so misinformed on this issue.......Conservatives are trying to get Roe V Wade (which even Libs agree is bad law.) is bad law and want the issue returned to the states where it belongs........The Federal Gov. should not be in the abortion business period.
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Look! A giant! Get it! What, looks like a windmill? No, no, it's a giant, I tell you, and you have to defeat it.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Unlike you I keep up with the current news..you should try it.
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Let me gues? You heard that on Fake News?
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Navy Pride said:
God how you are so misinformed on this issue.......Conservatives are trying to get Roe V Wade (which even Libs agree is bad law.) is bad law and want the issue returned to the states where it belongs........The Federal Gov. should not be in the abortion business period.
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The bolded. Not so much. It's fine law. The right to privacy becomes more and more crucial as surveillance technology enters our lives more and more. And Roe v Wade is one of the foundational cases in privacy law. As are the rulings that protect gays, much to your chagrin. None of those can be overturned without massive repercussions in other areas, none of which I bet you'd like.

And this "return it to the states" mantra... that's really just code for "I want to be able to infringe on the rights of minorities without that pesky constitution stopping me."

disneydude said:
Seriously dude.....you are such an extremist that anyone to the left of Scalia would be considered a "radical leftist" to you. The facts speak otherwise....so go ahead and live in your own world. I know their voting record quite well. The Supreme Court covers all areas of the law.....not just a handful of social issues which seem to be the only thing that matter to people of your ilk. The reality is...there hasn't been a true "liberal" on the court for almost 2 decades...and with today's political temperature there probably won't. Obama isn't going to appoint a true liberal. What he will do is appoint left leaning moderates.
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I would say Stevens and Sotomayor are actual liberals. And much to the chagrin of conservatives, left leaning justices are more inclined towards small government rulings.
 
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