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Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

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FWIW, I was in the Boy Scouts, and in the Navy..... I met more daisies in the Navy by far....:2razz:
 
Wake said:
How dare a person share his conservative view on homosexuality. The mob needs to tar and feather him. :roll::mrgreen:

Anyways, I'm not sure what I'd do. As an atheist, some expect me to have absolutely no apprehension about it... as if they demand I not be disgusted. Well, in my opinion it is disgusting. One man takes his corncob and rams it into another mans cornhole. Pardon me if that makes me want to barf. I don't feel it's natural, and I don't see how doing so succeeds in any natural act besides some awkward sexual gratification.

Should homosexuals have rights? Sure, let them. Do I have the right to not take my son to a place like that? Absolutely. I'm not in the business of creating fake outrage against any person who doesn't agree with my point of view. If I feel homosexual acts are disgusting, and I value my children and want to mold them as I see fit, I will do so. No one has the right not to be offended. That asides, I'd rather have my kids interested in things besides camps, like gardening.
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Nobody is talking about rights. Not sure where that comes from. Nor is NP getting "tarred and feathered", but he is having his false views pointed out to him. We call this debate. It is something we do here at Debate Politics. Religion and orientation have nothing to do with each other, so no idea why you brought up your beliefs in that realm. Posting on an internet forum is an unnatural act, and yet it seems to gratify you, so there goes that argument of yours. Why would you not want to take your son to a place where homosexuals have rights?
 
Wake said:
Because my son would be in that environment with homosexuals who do those actions. I wouldn't feel comfortable with my child being heavily influenced by a person who does those acts, especially at a young age. Though my sons would not know because they are innocent boys, I, their father, would. I would prefer my sons being raised to be manly, similar to the Spartans of old.
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Yanno pedophiles don't exactly flaunt it.
 
It is camp, usually fraternization is off limits anyway. You can't catch 'homosexuality' like it is a disease or something. Can't see how it could be an issue unless the camp leaders were discharged pedophiles.
 
Wake said:
Because my son would be in that environment with homosexuals who do those actions. I wouldn't feel comfortable with my child being heavily influenced by a person who does those acts, especially at a young age. Though my sons would not know because they are innocent boys, I, their father, would. I would prefer my sons being raised to be manly, similar to the Spartans of old.
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You realize that Spartans like other ancient Greeks frequently engaged in male sex acts, and viewed females as only good enough for housework and making children - even if they did let them fight. Christian knights would be a better example, at least in the sense that they rarely (if ever) had sex with the same gender.
 
Sure. It's not like most gay people aren't abundantly aware that most people are straight. And gays aren't any more prone to rape than their straight counterparts. I don't see this as an issue.

Hell, closested gay boys go to camp with straight boys all the time and it's not as though we have some huge problem of boys getting molested at camp by fellow attendees. So what difference does it make if they're in or out?
 
I'm not a bigot, so I see no problem with it.

Its not like the person is going to speak his sexuality with kids. The fear is a bunch of nonsense.

Some people need to watch that South Park episode where Big Gay Al is a scout leader....it tells a lot of truths.
 
Who here would allow their daughter to a camping with boys? Who here would allow their son to go to a pajama party with girls? Homophobic assertions aside, does anybody else see a relevant comparison?
 
Here's a more interesting question Navy:

Would you let your children attend a camp where there are closeted gay people?
 
disneydude said:
Here's a more interesting question Navy:

Would you let your children attend a camp where there are closeted gay people?
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How do you know they are gay, if they are in the closet. Some guys I never thought were gay in high school turned out to turn that way, and they went out with girls often.
 
SidewaysBear said:
How do you know they are gay, if they are in the closet. Some guys I never thought were gay in high school turned out to turn that way, and they went out with girls often.
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That's my point exactly. I find it strange that people like Navy Pride are more concerned about honesty than they are about lying. They live in a warped world...outa sight outa mind....ignorance is bliss. They have no problem sending their boys to boy scout camp now....with closeted gay people who are "married" and "love their wives"....but freak out if there is someone who is honest about their sexuality. The reality is.....the man in scenario #1 is much more likely to offend than the man in scenario #2. It makes no sense to reward dishonesty and punish honesty...but in the "blinders over their eyes" world that they live in....that is what they do in order to give themselves a false sense of security.
 
Wake said:
Because my son would be in that environment with homosexuals who do those actions. I wouldn't feel comfortable with my child being heavily influenced by a person who does those acts, especially at a young age. Though my sons would not know because they are innocent boys, I, their father, would. I would prefer my sons being raised to be manly, similar to the Spartans of old.
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Again, how can someone be influenced by anyone who does any kind of "act", sexual or otherwise, if the act is not done in front of the kid? Do you think straight people talk to kids about their sex lives and you're okay with that??? I wouldn't be okay with that. Children aren't sitting around imagining what kind of sex their camp counselors are having. It sounds like maybe their parents are, which is very weird.

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In response to the OP: I've had more than one gay best friend through the years so I'd be the last person to try to remove my child from an environment that included gay people.
 
Is it possible that people who hate gay people and who are parents do more harm to their children by teaching them to fear and hate gay people than gay people could ever do to those kids? Personally, I believe that is the case.
 
Smeagol said:
Who here would allow their daughter to a camping with boys? Who here would allow their son to go to a pajama party with girls? Homophobic assertions aside, does anybody else see a relevant comparison?
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Are they chaperoned by a homosexual(s)?

Point being we are not talking about kids we are talking about adults
 
Smeagol said:
Who here would allow their daughter to a camping with boys? Who here would allow their son to go to a pajama party with girls? Homophobic assertions aside, does anybody else see a relevant comparison?
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With a proper chaperone, of course. In the Boy Scouts, they have those.
 
no vote, the options are too controlling
I have not looked at any brochures, I have talked with no-one.
Hard to imagine, how I could know about this before-hand ....it makes no sense....to me...anyway.
So, to be 100% honest, IF I knew about this "horrible" condition, then NO, my offspring would NOT go to this particular camp..
Why ?
And, if my daughter still wanted to go to this camp, homosexuals or no..., then, that would be her choice..
I do NOT want "homosexually" to be part of any camp's offerings, I fear that it would be, given the state of our people.
 
earthworm said:
no vote, the options are too controlling
I have not looked at any brochures, I have talked with no-one.
Hard to imagine, how I could know about this before-hand ....it makes no sense....to me...anyway.
So, to be 100% honest, IF I knew about this "horrible" condition, then NO, my offspring would NOT go to this particular camp..
Why ?
And, if my daughter still wanted to go to this camp, homosexuals or no..., then, that would be her choice..
I do NOT want "homosexually" to be part of any camp's offerings, I fear that it would be, given the state of our people.
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That's like saying you don't want "redheads" or "Jews" to be part of your camp's "offerings."

The mere presence of a homosexual doesn't mean they are "offering" homosexuality. It just means they aren't excluding homosexuals from the camp. Homosexuals have the same need for learning and community as everyone else.
 
Crosscheck said:
Poll: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

As opposed to camps where their are certain members who preach non-stop antigay arguments who themselves are closet gays?
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I'd never send my offspring to any camp where hatred of others(social conservatism) is the primary agenda of that camp !
 
If I had a son, sure. I have two daughters, I'd let them go somewhere where there were open lesbians, does that count?
 
Rocketman said:
I think you must be on crack to assume there is no difference.
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Agree...
The homosexual is different in the brain.....the most important thing of one's make up.
Solution = acceptance, tolerance...
 
Redress said:
With a proper chaperone, of course. In the Boy Scouts, they have those.
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Not me, unless I knew boys and girls would have separate sleeping quarters. Call me old fashioned but I would lot let my little girl share a tent with a boy even if there was a chaperone in a nearby tent (possibly fast asleep themselves and certainly not staring at them all night, which itself would also be troubling). Hard for me to get my mind around how any parent would be okay with that but to each his own.
 
I wouldn't let my kid go to any camp that didn't have some kind of reasonable policy in place where a child should not be alone with any adult, period, but I don't care if the adults are gay or not.

Honestly, just speaking based off of all the newstories I've heard through the years, I'd be alittle bit more relieved if the camp leaders were openly gay. I really can't remember any story where an openly gay person abused a child. The only ones I can remember are married guys, often with kids of there own, or guys who ardently claim to be straight as an arrow.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
That's like saying you don't want "redheads" or "Jews" to be part of your camp's "offerings."This is NO true...

The mere presence of a homosexual doesn't mean they are "offering" homosexuality. It just means they aren't excluding homosexuals from the camp. Homosexuals have the same need for learning and community as everyone else.Absolutely true...
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I have this fear that a camp could cater to the homosexual too much and then ruin the experience for the child..
Imagine(as an example) that only swimming, and nothing but swimming was on the camps schedule of activities...24 hours per day this becomes old after a few days....
But, of course, I doubt if any camp or like facility will openly state " gays accepted " or something like that....
I do not care about the presence of gays....I highly doubt if I would even know about it.....and gays have the same rights to attend the same camp...

I simply do not want a camp where "homos rule" - if there is such a thing....
 
winston53660 said:
Are they chaperoned by a homosexual(s)?

Point being we are not talking about kids we are talking about adults
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I go to a church where men are not allowed to be nursery workers, gay or straight. I don't think teenaged boys should be allowed to babysit non-familial girls, gay or straight.
 
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