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Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

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Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Dr. Chuckles said:
Please explain then
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It states right in the article posted that 10% of the respondents in the study admitted to engaging in same sex experimentation as adolescents and most of them identify themselves as heterosexual.
 
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nota bene said:
Just curious--are you a parent yourself?

And are you proud of the way you're talking to others?
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yes I am a parent. I speak the truth so yes I am proud of that. you not really reading what I am responding to either. again for all the illiterate morons. he said he was worried that his kids might be the type that would stone Matthew Shepard or be influenced by others to participate willingly and molestation.

some people need a reality check you can teach kids to avoid both of those situations. I've been doing it for years.
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
Yes, if we ignore how you can be wrong, it seems you might be right



So you were intentionally ignoring the effect demographics would have to make a political point? Thank you
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No....I never said a greater percentage...what I was referring to (if you go back and look) is that if you are concerned about same sex sexual experimentation, then you cannot discount the fact that it is more likely due to sheer numbers that an adolescent will engage in same sex sexual experimentation with a heterosexual than a homosexual...so how are you "protecting" your child by keeping them away from gay kids?
 
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disneydude said:
No....I never said a greater percentage...what I was referring to (if you go back and look) is that if you are concerned about same sex sexual experimentation, then you cannot discount the fact that it is more likely due to sheer numbers that an adolescent will engage in same sex sexual experimentation with a heterosexual than a homosexual...so how are you "protecting" your child by keeping them away from gay kids?
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from above: "So you were intentionally ignoring the effect demographics would have to make a political point? Thank you"
 
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disneydude said:
It states right in the article posted that 10% of the respondents in the study admitted to engaging in same sex experimentation as adolescents and most of them identify themselves as heterosexual.
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It says "a large Dutch study of high school students found that 8.5% said they were ***attracted*** to people of the same sex as themselves". Which is, again, not the same as you are claiming above
 
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I believe that the gay members would probably be the ones most at risk.
Since I don't have a son, that's all that I have to say on this.
 
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ecofarm said:
Let's put "knows" in quotes.
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yeah, he knows what people tell him to know. he claims to be conservative yet he isn't. he claims to be Catholic never crack the Bible I imagine. I would put any adjective describing him in quotes.

this is his psychosis: (I know nothing but that being gay is wrong, because all the men in my life told me so.) he isn't an individual but simply opinions passed from men that he regards is the manliest.

he's part of the problem with America just another drone is Mark Levin would say.
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
from above: "So you were intentionally ignoring the effect demographics would have to make a political point? Thank you"
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No. You can attempt to characterize it as such...but the reality is, it simply isn't true. Take what I was saying in context of the conversation.
 
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disneydude said:
No....I never said a greater percentage...what I was referring to (if you go back and look) is that if you are concerned about same sex sexual experimentation, then you cannot discount the fact that it is more likely due to sheer numbers that an adolescent will engage in same sex sexual experimentation with a heterosexual than a homosexual...so how are you "protecting" your child by keeping them away from gay kids?
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I don't see why anybody would be worried about same sex experimentation. it is really rather harmless. so a boy put his hand another boy's penis the same way he put it on his. I guess God would just struck Humanity dead for that. there'er so much more important things to worry about.

some men think that the slightest murmur of a homosexual thought will just turn them as queer as a football bat. we have a word for this it's called insecurity. the saddest part about it is the transfer the insecurity to the poor children.

eating 1 vegetable doesn't make you a vegetarian just like a boy touching 1 penis that isn't his doesn't make him gay.
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
It says "a large Dutch study of high school students found that 8.5% said they were ***attracted*** to people of the same sex as themselves". Which is, again, not the same as you are claiming above
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You are attempting to refer to a completely unrelated area of the study. The study indicated that of ALL respondents 8.5% identified themselves as gay (which is pretty consistent with most studies).

However, when the study is talking about same sex sexual experimentation among adolescents it states that of all the respondents, 10% reported to have engaged in same sex sexual experimentation, MOST OF WHICH identified themselves as heterosexual.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

They let girls into the boy scouts.



I rest my case.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
raise your kids not to stone Matthew Shepard to death, and not to be easily manipulated. they're young enough that you can still address this. it isn't the pleasant thing to talk about with children. I know I do it for the Boy Scouts every 6 months. but equipped with knowledge you kids can know how to protect themselves
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Scouts are not a that big thing in my area these days, so that part is more theoretical too.
 
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shrubnose said:
I believe that the gay members would probably be the ones most at risk.
Since I don't have a son, that's all that I have to say on this.
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Huh:confused:
are you saaying the gay boys are worried about being abused by the straight boys who are repulsed by gay activity?
 
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CLAX1911 said:
I don't see why anybody would be worried about same sex experimentation. it is really rather harmless. so a boy put his hand another boy's penis the same way he put it on his. I guess God would just struck Humanity dead for that. there'er so much more important things to worry about..
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I am challenging a claim he made about research.
 
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disneydude said:
You are attempting to refer to a completely unrelated area of the study. The study indicated that of ALL respondents 8.5% identified themselves as gay (which is pretty consistent with most studies).
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No, they identified attraction to the oppositie sex. You, for some reason, construed this as an affirmation of sexual experimentation.

disneydude said:
However, when the study is talking about same sex sexual experimentation among adolescents it states that of all the respondents, 10% reported to have engaged in same sex sexual experimentation, MOST OF WHICH identified themselves as heterosexual.
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Where?
 
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Pagan said:
So it's not the boy scouts then, is it?
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Just "the scouts", lol.


Honestly, though...the scouts are a private organization. They can do whatever they damn well please. But they had best think it through.

Are they gonna stay a religious group, or let that go in favor of swelling the rosters? To me, the scouts have become more and more irrelevant, in the last 10 years or so. To much litigation, kids can't go out and be kids, etc.

It's a shame. I'm an eagle, myself, and I learned a lot from the scouts, including how to shoot. Bygone era, I guess. Can't let little johny go home with a skinned knee, or cuts.
 
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KevinKohler said:
Just "the scouts", lol.


Honestly, though...the scouts are a private organization. They can do whatever they damn well please. But they had best think it through.

Are they gonna stay a religious group, or let that go in favor of swelling the rosters? To me, the scouts have become more and more irrelevant, in the last 10 years or so. To much litigation, kids can't go out and be kids, etc.

It's a shame. I'm an eagle, myself, and I learned a lot from the scouts, including how to shoot. Bygone era, I guess. Can't let little johny go home with a skinned knee, or cuts.
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Yeah I see them opening up to the gays as an attempt to revitalize it, the bad press they've gotten over this sure doesn't help their recruiting other than religious crowd.

I believe when they change their policy's though the church run troops like the mormon's will still exclude them.
 
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Pagan said:
Yeah I see them opening up to the gays as an attempt to revitalize it, the bad press they've gotten over this sure doesn't help their recruiting other than religious crowd.

I believe when they change their policy's though the church run troops like the mormon's will still exclude them.
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In the end, none of that will matter. Parents killed the boy scouts, nothing else.
 
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I've been thinking more about this question, of whether I'd let my kid go out camping with openly gay members or leaders, as in a Scout troop type situation.


Y'know... I'd have a concern if it was mixed boys and girls (if some were over 12), because of the potential for some of the youngsters to sneak around and have sex if not carefully supervised.

If you have all boys (and men Scoutmasters) but some are gay... the same concern applies, doesn't it? Because you have people who might be sexually attracted to each other camping out in the woods together, and most of them are underage.

You'd need lots of good supervision.


So anyway, I would not be crazy about the idea no.
 
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Fisher said:
Scouts are not a that big thing in my area these days, so that part is more theoretical too.
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I know with the little ones its one day at a time. But of the boys I have worked with that are survivors of sexual abuse, it seems so common that they just didn't know that they feel into a trap. most believed their abusers when they said that their parents would be mad at them for letting the abuser have sex with them. This can be avoided by telling your children and letting them know that you will not be angry at them for telling on a person that sexually abuses them.

As for experimentation, they can do that with any boy, it doesn't have to be a boy in boy scouts.
 
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Goshin said:
I've been thinking more about this question, of whether I'd let my kid go out camping with openly gay members or leaders, as in a Scout troop type situation.


Y'know... I'd have a concern if it was mixed boys and girls (if some were over 12), because of the potential for some of the youngsters to sneak around and have sex if not carefully supervised.

If you have all boys (and men Scoutmasters) but some are gay... the same concern applies, doesn't it? Because you have people who might be sexually attracted to each other camping out in the woods together, and most of them are underage.

You'd need lots of good supervision.


So anyway, I would not be crazy about the idea no.
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It really seems to be straight men that have a problem with gay men. Really because they think we are attracted to them.

This is really quite funny. When I came out I had a pal named Art, he was really weirded out, he just knew I wanted to jump his straight bones (not in this life or the next). It became so irritating his insistence that I just wanted his fat hairy body. I grew weary of bring nice to him about it, then one day when he was being particularly petulant, I told him "loose 80 lbs, shave the beard bathe more often dress better and stop seeing a slob and just maybe you could have a shot."

The funniest thing is that out hurt his feelings that I want really attracted to him.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Do me one favor my left wing friend please change your political lean to at least moderate becaue you are no Social Conservative........Thanks
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Do you think conservative means "anti-gay"?
 
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CLAX1911 said:
It really seems to be straight men that have a problem with gay men. Really because they think we are attracted to them.

This is really quite funny. When I came out I had a pal named Art, he was really weirded out, he just knew I wanted to jump his straight bones (not in this life or the next). It became so irritating his insistence that I just wanted his fat hairy body. I grew weary of bring nice to him about it, then one day when he was being particularly petulant, I told him "loose 80 lbs, shave the beard bathe more often dress better and stop seeing a slob and just maybe you could have a shot."

The funniest thing is that out hurt his feelings that I want really attracted to him.
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Ok, but what you just said had pretty much nothing to do with what I said, or what I meant by it.
 
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MaggieD said:
I have to say I probably would not. My job as a parent isn't to be politically correct. It's to protect my son for as much as I can. Honestly? I wouldn't be worried about the counselors. I'd be worried about peer pressure from so-called gay boys who wanted my son to experiment. I'd want to protect him at camp -- just like I'd want to protect him from his friends in the basement of my home.

Frankly? I think any parent who would answer otherwise is missing something.
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Why do you think homosexuality is something your son needs to be protected from?
 
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