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Should we be sending F16 fighter planes to Egypt?

Should we be sending F16 fighter planes to Egypt?


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We shouldn't arm Israel, the only liberal western democracy in the mideast? That's a death sentence. There's no way Russian or Chinese gear could hold their lines. As this is not the mideast forum, I will not continue but your desire for the end of Israel is noted.

Democracy? Are you kidding? They're just as bad as their neighboring countries. There is no democracy in the middle east. We should have never established ties with any country there. And we should stay out of their holy wars. I'm an atheist. I shouldn't have to get killed thanks to America's religious fanaticism that makes people blindly support a country the size of New Jersey because it's supposed to be the land of holly bull****.

We should cut all ties with every middle eastern country. And we should throw religion in the trash where it belongs. Religion is a mental illness. It was created for primitive savages who had no science and didn't know any better. If every person in the world threw their Bibles, their Korans, their Bhagavad Gitas, etc. into a latrine pit where they belong, we wouldn't have these stupid holy wars.
 
We shouldn't arm Israel, the only liberal western democracy in the mideast? That's a death sentence. There's no way Russian or Chinese gear could hold their lines. As this is not the mideast forum, I will not continue but your desire for the end of Israel is noted.

No, we should not be arming anyone and if Israel gets wiped off the map, so be it. That's how war works. The strong win, the weak lose. And yes, I want to see a nice asteroid impact right in the middle of Jerusalem.
 
Democracy? Are you kidding? They're just as bad as their neighboring countries. There is no democracy in the middle east. We should have never established ties with any country there. And we should stay out of their holy wars. I'm an atheist. I shouldn't have to get killed thanks to America's religious fanaticism that makes people blindly support a country the size of New Jersey because it's supposed to be the land of holly bull****.

We should cut all ties with every middle eastern country. And we should throw religion in the trash where it belongs. Religion is a mental illness. It was created for primitive savages who had no science and didn't know any better. If every person in the world threw their Bibles, their Korans, their Bhagavad Gitas, etc. into a latrine pit where they belong, we wouldn't have these stupid holy wars.

You forgot "opiate of the people."
 
Democracy? Are you kidding? They're just as bad as their neighboring countries. There is no democracy in the middle east. We should have never established ties with any country there. And we should stay out of their holy wars. I'm an atheist.

That's staggering ignorance! I'm also atheist, so I guess that kills that BS you were selling.

No, we should not be arming anyone and if Israel gets wiped off the map, so be it. That's how war works. The strong win, the weak lose. And yes, I want to see a nice asteroid impact right in the middle of Jerusalem.

Wow, you really hate Israel. Ok, guess there's no debate to be had there.
 
Wow, you really hate Israel. Ok, guess there's no debate to be had there.

And rightfully so. Israel has one of the worst records on human rights violations out there.
 
I'm not debating that except in the proper subforum. Your hatred is noted.
 
And rightfully so. Israel has one of the worst records on human rights violations out there.

Right, right, Israel where they throw acid in the faces of little girls who dare to go to school, sure.
 
No, we should not be arming anyone and if Israel gets wiped off the map, so be it. That's how war works. The strong win, the weak lose. And yes, I want to see a nice asteroid impact right in the middle of Jerusalem.

Hmm. Could be interesting to see Israel in F-16s vs Egypt in F-16s. Who would would win? Oh yeah, "the strong win," Israel.
 
Hmm. Could be interesting to see Israel in F-16s vs Egypt in F-16s. Who would would win? Oh yeah, "the strong win," Israel.

Considering how much money we pump into Israel every year, how we'd leap at the drop of a hat to throw our military to their aid, of course they'd win. We've been doing all their fighting for them, directly or indirectly, since 1948.
 
Hmm. Could be interesting to see Israel in F-16s vs Egypt in F-16s. Who would would win? Oh yeah, "the strong win," Israel.

What what I've heard, the Israeli Air Force has taken the fighter jets they got from us and added newer advancements to them that they don't even let US military personnel see. Of course, its possibly just a rumor too. :?:
 
Considering how much money we pump into Israel every year, how we'd leap at the drop of a hat to throw our military to their aid, of course they'd win. We've been doing all their fighting for them, directly or indirectly, since 1948.

:lamo Uh, no. But this isn't the right forum to go into it. Still...:lamo
 
What what I've heard, the Israeli Air Force has taken the fighter jets they got from us and added newer advancements to them that they don't even let US military personnel see. Of course, its possibly just a rumor too. :?:

Oh yeah. The Israelis have been quite inventive. They have a history of making improvements. The Kfir, for example, was the French Mirage 5 airframe with a J79 engine from an American F-4. Turned out to be a terrific airplane
 
When we made the deal to give these planes to Egypt Marbaruk was president and ally to us and Israel not the nut there now.
 
No way should we be selling F-16's to Egypt.

But if the Muslim Brotherhood remains in control in Egypt, President Obama is very likely to sign off on such an insane proposal.

Lets get it straight, Obama's foreign policies have been a complete failure. Our allies including the UK no longer trust Obama (America) since Obama has thrown other American allies under the bus.

The entire Middle East have become a basket case in the past four years under the Obama administration. One of the biggest mistakes of the Obama administration was supporting the "Arab Spring" that put the Muslim Brotherhood in power in Egypt and increased their power throughout the Middle East.

Lets remember that the Egyptian military is not the Muslim Brotherhood and who along with past American administrations kept Mubarak in power for decades.

The incompetent Obama administration and that includes the State Department should have told Mubarak that times have changed and it's time to step down. It's better that you put someone in control or the the Islamist fascist may end up in power.

President Mubarak was a long time ally of America and protected Israels southern flank which helped keeping all out war from happening in the Middle East.

Then you had Obama and Libya. Obama like usual ignored the Constitution and the law and violated the "War Powers Act." No problem with the Republicans, conservatives and neoconservatives, they have been saying for over thirty years that the "War Powers Act" was unconstitutional. Obama confirmed it and those who supported the "War Powers Act" (liberals) gave Obama a complete pass.

What most Americans are unaware of, when Congress authorized G.W. Bush to invade Iraq, it scared the crap out of all our enemies including those Islamist countries who use to harbour and protect radical Islamist terrorist.

Omar Qaddafi crapped his pants in 2003 and contacted the Bush administration that he was going to destroy his WMD stockpiles, dismantle his development on nukes and wanted to join America on it's war against Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

It was the Qaddafi regime who took over enhanced interrogations of captured Al Qaeda and Taliban for the CIA when those in Congress got their panties all waded up over enhanced interrogation of those who want to kill us.

I'm sure with Obama's approval of homosexual sodomy he got off when Qaddafi was captured, sodomised and murdered.

Throughout 2012 President Obama claimed that Al Qaeda was on the run. He didn't lie, Al Qaeda was on the run during his four years in the White House. Running all over the Middle East and North Africa expanding their base of operations. Al Qaeda can now be found operating in ten countries that they had no precence in 2008 ! They are now back in Iraq !

No way should we sell F-16's to Egypt as long as the Muslim Brotherhood has a presence of power in Egypt.

How many Americans are even aware who the Muslim Brotherhood is ? How many know the connections of Hitler and Nazi Germany and the Muslim Brotherhood ? How many know that the Muslim Brotherhood has a S/S Regiment that fought under the German military in Europe during W W ll.
What's with Barack Obama's infatuation with the Muslim Brotherhood ? Half of America really don't give a damn.
 
no vote
The ones I do not trust are the extremists , ours and theirs..
Turn off RL, and Fox and the ilk.
Listen to PBS, NPR.
Think for yourself.
 
We shouldn't arm Israel, the only liberal western democracy in the mideast? That's a death sentence. There's no way Russian or Chinese gear could hold their lines. As this is not the mideast forum, I will not continue but your desire for the end of Israel is noted.

I agree, more or less, with Luna.
Neither of us have any desire for any end......its silly and a false conclusion..
 
I agree, more or less, with Luna.
Neither of us have any desire for any end......its silly and a false conclusion..

You would stand aside and watch Israel be destroyed by her enemies. Your support of Israel is non-existent. Let's not pretend that you are neutral.
 
No way should we be selling F-16's to Egypt.

But if the Muslim Brotherhood remains in control in Egypt, President Obama is very likely to sign off on such an insane proposal.

Lets get it straight, Obama's foreign policies have been a complete failure. Our allies including the UK no longer trust Obama (America) since Obama has thrown other American allies under the bus.

The entire Middle East have become a basket case in the past four years under the Obama administration. One of the biggest mistakes of the Obama administration was supporting the "Arab Spring" that put the Muslim Brotherhood in power in Egypt and increased their power throughout the Middle East.

Lets remember that the Egyptian military is not the Muslim Brotherhood and who along with past American administrations kept Mubarak in power for decades.

The incompetent Obama administration and that includes the State Department should have told Mubarak that times have changed and it's time to step down. It's better that you put someone in control or the the Islamist fascist may end up in power.

President Mubarak was a long time ally of America and protected Israels southern flank which helped keeping all out war from happening in the Middle East.

Then you had Obama and Libya. Obama like usual ignored the Constitution and the law and violated the "War Powers Act." No problem with the Republicans, conservatives and neoconservatives, they have been saying for over thirty years that the "War Powers Act" was unconstitutional. Obama confirmed it and those who supported the "War Powers Act" (liberals) gave Obama a complete pass.

What most Americans are unaware of, when Congress authorized G.W. Bush to invade Iraq, it scared the crap out of all our enemies including those Islamist countries who use to harbour and protect radical Islamist terrorist.

Omar Qaddafi crapped his pants in 2003 and contacted the Bush administration that he was going to destroy his WMD stockpiles, dismantle his development on nukes and wanted to join America on it's war against Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

It was the Qaddafi regime who took over enhanced interrogations of captured Al Qaeda and Taliban for the CIA when those in Congress got their panties all waded up over enhanced interrogation of those who want to kill us.

I'm sure with Obama's approval of homosexual sodomy he got off when Qaddafi was captured, sodomised and murdered.

Throughout 2012 President Obama claimed that Al Qaeda was on the run. He didn't lie, Al Qaeda was on the run during his four years in the White House. Running all over the Middle East and North Africa expanding their base of operations. Al Qaeda can now be found operating in ten countries that they had no precence in 2008 ! They are now back in Iraq !

No way should we sell F-16's to Egypt as long as the Muslim Brotherhood has a presence of power in Egypt.

How many Americans are even aware who the Muslim Brotherhood is ? How many know the connections of Hitler and Nazi Germany and the Muslim Brotherhood ? How many know that the Muslim Brotherhood has a S/S Regiment that fought under the German military in Europe during W W ll.
What's with Barack Obama's infatuation with the Muslim Brotherhood ? Half of America really don't give a damn.

Note: We're not selling planes to Egypt. We're giving them away.
Note: This foreign aid give away has to be approved by Congress. Obama can't give away military hardware or anything else on his own.

Note: Congress' approval rating is in the single digits. Why might that be?
 
Right, right, Israel where they throw acid in the faces of little girls who dare to go to school, sure.

Any other country being involved, we'd be calling the situation in Gaza apartheid.
 
Any other country being involved, we'd be calling the situation in Gaza apartheid.

except that the blacks in South Africa weren't in the habit of shooting rockets into white neighborhoods.
 
Note: We're not selling planes to Egypt. We're giving them away.
Note: This foreign aid give away has to be approved by Congress. Obama can't give away military hardware or anything else on his own.

Note: Congress' approval rating is in the single digits. Why might that be?



"Why might that be" ?

I would have to say the lack of leadership in the White House.

Remember Ronald Reagan ? He knew something about leadership and was able to work with Tip O'Neil

There was this guy in the White House, Bill Clinton was his name. He also knew something about leadership and was able to work with Newt Gingrich.

Today you have this narcissist, Barack Obama who lacks leadership, unwilling to work with Republicans and instead ignores the Constitution and abuses Executive Order privileges to get his way.
 
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