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75% Prefer Term Limits - Do you?

Do you support defined term limits?

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radcen said:
Sometimes they win both. When that happens they resign the Senator seat, and the constituents are the ones who are screwed. They either get a selected representative that they may never have voted for in the first place, and/or they get the cost of a special election.
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That's true, but I think its a lesser evil in some cases than going through the process, in some states impossible, of removing the candidate's name from the ballot and getting a new candidate and campaign running for that party.
 
Then why do 90% of incumbents get re-elected if 75% of the people are against that 3rd term?
 
Anagram said:
That's true, but I think its a lesser evil in some cases than going through the process, in some states impossible, of removing the candidate's name from the ballot and getting a new candidate and campaign running for that party.
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While I am annoyed by it, it's not a high priority of mine, and I'm not sure I'd support making it illegal.


specklebang said:
Then why do 90% of incumbents get re-elected if 75% of the people are against that 3rd term?
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Makes you wonder, doesn't it? And I believe this is why politicians ignore us. They know... we have proven... that no matter how much we piss and moan, we're going to turn around and re-elect them anyway.

I think term limit support is half people being pissy over elections not going their way, and half people subconsciously knowing they have no self control.
 
specklebang said:
Then why do 90% of incumbents get re-elected if 75% of the people are against that 3rd term?
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I don't know if it's been said yet in this thread, but most people hate congress, but not their own representatives. It's all the others they want removed.
 
Yes we should. Why did we place Term limits on the President after FDR but we have Congressmen and Senators that have been in office much longer then FDR was ever in office.
 
Redress said:
Absolutely not. I prefer to not have my choices to represent me arbitrarily limited.
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They already are. 3rd parties are not given equal access.
 
Gina said:
I don't know if it's been said yet in this thread, but most people hate congress, but not their own representatives. It's all the others they want removed.
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...which really makes no sense, as our own Congresspeople are doing the same things those other bad Congresspeople are doing.
 
radcen said:
...which really makes no sense, as our own Congresspeople are doing the same things those other bad Congresspeople are doing.
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Yes, but on "our" behalf, so that's different. ;)
 
Gina said:
I don't know if it's been said yet in this thread, but most people hate congress, but not their own representatives. It's all the others they want removed.
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Personally, I'd have no problems with flushing them all. Today. And starting 100% fresh tomorrow.
 
Dragonfly said:
Personally, I'd have no problems with flushing them all. Today. And starting 100% fresh tomorrow.
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It might sound like a good idea, but if we use the analogy of likening congress to a business, it wouldn't be prudent flush all the employees and start fresh.
 
Gina said:
It might sound like a good idea, but if we use the analogy of likening congress to a business, it wouldn't be prudent flush all the employees and start fresh.
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Congress is NOT a business.
 
OK, but the OP claims 75% want term limits. Do you think they want term limits for everyone EXCEPT their chosen thief? Conundrum, eh?


Gina said:
I don't know if it's been said yet in this thread, but most people hate congress, but not their own representatives. It's all the others they want removed.
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No, I Do Not Like Term Limits For The Congress

Eliminate Pensions
Congressional And Presidential
None Of Them Need Them

Lawmakers propose end to congressional pensions - The Hill

Except Joe Biden
The Poorest (Dumbest) Politician On Capital Hill

(But He Gets A Cut From His Lobbyist Sons, Grease The Wheels As It Were)
 
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Besides, Term Limits On Congress Means What ??

You're Incompetent To Vote In The First Place ??
Just Stay Home And Quit Blaming Them

If They Get Re-Elected, You're Not Doing Your Job

Oblahma Comes To Mind
 
karpenter said:
Besides, Term Limits On Congress Means What ??

You're Incompetent To Vote In The First Place ??
Just Stay Home And Quit Blaming Them

If They Get Re-Elected, You're Not Doing Your Job

Oblahma Comes To Mind
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Not doing my job? What's that mean? I have one vote. One.
 
Dragonfly said:
Not doing my job? What's that mean? I have one vote. One.
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Depending On How One Gets Bussed Around
You Might Get Three Or Four

Probably Helps To Be 'Homeless'
And Answer Craig's List At The Public Library

A Carton Of Cigarettes And A Quart Of Cheap Wine Buys
'My Party'
 
karpenter said:
Depending On How One Gets Bussed Around
You Might Get Three Or Four

Probably Helps To Be 'Homeless'
And Answer Craig's List At The Public Library

A Carton Of Cigarettes And A Quart Of Cheap Wine Buys
'My Party'
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How about if you drop the "cuteness" and answer the question seriously?

Or are you so biased and angry that stooping to ignorance is your only option?
 
jamesrage said:
My elected officials are doing a good job. But at the same time I am against career politicians.
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Pretty much everyone has that opinion... MY guy is cool but that OTHER guy is a pork shoveling weasel! :shock:

I oppose a political class as much as the next guy but perhaps the focus isn't so much the guy in the political ads as much as the army of assistants who have taken up camp in Congress. A congress critter's seniority can be measured by what committees he/she chairs orrrr how many staffers he/she has.

I have nothing against terms limits, they seem like a very democratic thing to do. I fear for the Union is a state can't find two people every 8 to 12 years to be senators, or a district can't find someone at least as good as the 'legitimate rape' guy when the term limit is hit by the predecessor.

Out here we have big simple blocks of land. Every so often a river shapes a border but a quick glance shows the blocks all row after row. Perhaps congressional districts could look a bit more like Midwestern counties and less like spilled ink. I think gerrymandering is a concept who's time has come and gone.
 
Some Of The Democrat Constituency May Think Of Jail As Free Room & Board During The Winter Months
And Why Not ?? They Get To Lounge Around With All Their Friends.

Get Jelly Rolls, Coffee
Dinner, Place To Sleep
Play Spades, Chit-Chat
Nature TV...

Hey, That's A Retirement Plan
 
Dragonfly said:
How about if you drop the "cuteness" and answer the question seriously?

Or are you so biased and angry that stooping to ignorance is your only option?
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It Was Widely Reported In 2008
ABC NBC CBS MSNBC

Ohio, Pennsylvania

What ?? History Only Happened Yesterday ??

Ignore It If You Want
I Personally Don't Care What Do Or DON'T Choose To Remember
 
And What 'You Choose To Remember'

IS The Proper Turn Of Phrase
 
specklebang said:
OK, but the OP claims 75% want term limits. Do you think they want term limits for everyone EXCEPT their chosen thief? Conundrum, eh?
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Yes, I do.:)
 
Einzige said:
Again: I don't give a good Goddamn about how Rugged your Individualism is. The 'political class' as you call it is infinitely preferable to anything approaching either the direct democracy of the Left or the insipid populism of the Right - we need a governing class that is capable of governing.

'Libertarianism' of the sort you want - where the House and Senate would have basically no function at all, where we'd elect officials and then do nothing with them - is beyond the American intent and experience, and will be forever.
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Hrm.. I like that: "a governing class that is capable of governing." Where do you suppose we could find one of those?

ttwtt78640 said:
Nonsense, with no need or hope to run again he will set up "firends" with tons of pork to care for himself for the rest of his days. It is only in seeking re-election that they are forced to stay as honest as they do, without that mild pressure it is likely that total chaos would rule.
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Redress said:
Here is an odd idea: if you do not like career politicians, don't vote for them. If I like a career politician, why should you be able to take my option to vote for them away?
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Because as of now, "playing ball" with big business in order to get the funding to be re-elected is exactly what the problem is.

I happen to prefer a government that is for the people, by the people, and not something that is ruled by an elite class of politicians that see all of this as "us vs. them"
 
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Redress said:
Absolutely not. I prefer to not have my choices to represent me arbitrarily limited.
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Good point.
A year ago, I favored changing the Representatives from 2 to 4 years...Now I do not know.
The politicians must clean their own house. Must Christie be the only one to speak out ???
I think the big problem is those who answer " I do not care" . This has allowed the extremists to "run wild".
 
We would also have to term limit the congressional staff, least a senior staff position become the lasting power behind the throne.
 
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