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A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

Would this compromise be acceptable?

  • Yes. This isn’t perfect, but no compromise is.

    Votes: 11 14.7%

  • No. I don’t mind some compromise, but this still takes away too much.

    Votes: 10 13.3%

  • No. We should never compromise our gun rights.

    Votes: 49 65.3%

  • No. This still gives too many gun ownership privileges.

    Votes: 3 4.0%

  • I can hit a target 400 yards away with my eyes closed.

    Votes: 2 2.7%
  • Total voters
    75
Boo Radley said:
Do you live in Iraq? Are you expecting a fire fight?
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I am expecting to have to deal with the same criminals the cops in my city have to deal with. so I figure they have studied the issue and determined that what they carry is a good choice. That's why I have the same pistol in my car and the same rifle in a rack in my bedroom

when I shot a mugger years ago, the judge asked me why I had a smith and wesson. I honestly noted I had worked for my hometown's city council and chose the brand and caliber that the City had determined was the best choice for their officers. during a break the judge asked the deputy guarding the courtroom what he carried and asked where she could buy one
 
Here's Why You Need A Banana Clip
These Men Were Defending Their Families, Homes And Livelihoods
The LA Riots Were Before Clinton's Weapons Ban

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It Seems 4 People Died
They Were Trampled By Their Stampeding, Rioting, Looting Compatriots
As They Were Turned Back By These Brave Korean AMERICANS
That Fired Into The Ground And Over The Rioter's Heads

But Then, Democrats Are A Stupid As Stupid Gets
 
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karpenter said:
Here's Why You Need A Banana Clip
These Men Were Defending Their Families, Homes And Livelihoods
LA Riots Were Before Clinton's Weapons Ban

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It Seems 4 People Died
As They Were Trampled By Their Stampeding, Rioting, Looting Compatriots
As They Were Turned Back By These Brave Korean AMERICANS

But Then, Democrats Are A Stupid As Stupid Gets
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common sense indicates that if your state or city has determined that a 17 shot glock or 30 shot military style rifle is ideal for self defense in that geopolitical area-the rest of us civilians should acquire the same guns for the same purpose-defense against the criminals both us civilians and our civilian cops are likely to face
 
TurtleDude said:
I am expecting to have to deal with the same criminals the cops in my city have to deal with. so I figure they have studied the issue and determined that what they carry is a good choice. That's why I have the same pistol in my car and the same rifle in a rack in my bedroom

when I shot a mugger years ago, the judge asked me why I had a smith and wesson. I honestly noted I had worked for my hometown's city council and chose the brand and caliber that the City had determined was the best choice for their officers. during a break the judge asked the deputy guarding the courtroom what he carried and asked where she could buy one
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And you needed a large clip for that? How many times did you shoot him?
 
Boo Radley said:
And you needed a large clip for that? How many times did you shoot him?
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Just once- I am really good

but since criminals decide when to attack I don't have the luxury of choosing how many decided to attack

I guess you just cannot figure it out that if cops think they need 17 round handguns and 30 shot rifles for dealing the the same criminals we face-EVEN THOUGH COPS OFTEN ARE READY when they confront criminals, we who are almost always REACTING to an attack from the same criminals ought to have the same tools
 
TurtleDude said:
Just once- I am really good

but since criminals decide when to attack I don't have the luxury of choosing how many decided to attack

I guess you just cannot figure it out that if cops think they need 17 round handguns and 30 shot rifles for dealing the the same criminals we face-EVEN THOUGH COPS OFTEN ARE READY when they confront criminals, we who are almost always REACTING to an attack from the same criminals ought to have the same tools
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When have you been attacked where you needed that large a clip? For it to be reasonable, doesn't have to be a reasonable expectation of that kind of fire fight?
 
Metal Detectors Are Being Removed From Courthouses In Portland, Or
Or Somewhere
 
Boo Radley said:
When have you been attacked where you needed that large a clip? For it to be reasonable, doesn't have to be a reasonable expectation of that kind of fire fight?
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If My Home Is Invaded By An Uninvited Intruding Criminal, I'll Shoot As Much As I Damn Well Choose
Up To And Including GRAPE SHOT

He Don't Like My Rules ??
THEN STAY ON THE OTHERSIDE MY DOOR !!!
 
karpenter said:
If My Home Is Invaded By An Uninvited Intruding Criminal, I'll Shoot As Much As I Damn Well Choose
Up To And Including GRAPE SHOT

He Don't Like My Rules ??
THEN STAY ON THE OTHERSIDE MY DOOR !!!
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Yeah, tough talk. I get it. However, not having them invade in the first place is a better and more effective strategy.
 
karpenter said:
If My Home Is Invaded By An Uninvited Intruding Criminal, I'll Shoot As Much As I Damn Well Choose
Up To And Including GRAPE SHOT

He Don't Like My Rules ??
THEN STAY ON THE OTHERSIDE MY DOOR !!!
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I love the grape shot comment.......:lol:...thanks
 
Boo Radley said:
When have you been attacked where you needed that large a clip? For it to be reasonable, doesn't have to be a reasonable expectation of that kind of fire fight?
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well I might only need 10K in coverage for a traffic accident but I prefer having much higher coverage just in case

Your posts are bordering on playing dumb in that passive-aggressive attack on gun rights again. Its better to have too many rounds and only need to shoot once versus having the limits anti gun assholes in politics have imposed and then have one more attacker than you have bullets

I guess you want to avoid dealing with the fact that if our cops dealing with the same criminals we might have to deal with have determined that X amount of rounds is proper, that's a good number for the rest of us in that area to use

you seem to believe that those of us who have CCW licenses are somehow less trustworthy than cops even though there is no evidence to support that hysteria
 
zstep18 said:
I highly doubt that Chinese citizens, if armed with your basic firearm, could restrain the Chinese military. The Chinese military would just completely overwhelm the citizenry.

That's why I found this whole "guns need to stand up again the US government and the military" type of talk a little silly.
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Its not that simple as all of the government versus all of the people.
 
Boo Radley said:
Yeah, tough talk. I get it. However, not having them invade in the first place is a better and more effective strategy.
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And An Armed Citizenry IS The Strategy

Mass Killings Are Committed In 'Gun Free Zones'

Like Schools, Malls And Virginia Tech
All 'Gun Free Zones'

'Gun Free Zone' Signs Say:
Hey, Psycho !!
Here's Your Victims...

Now, Show Me Were It Ain't
Fake Airborn

Hey, Maybe I'll Pretend I'm 101st
Or Paste A Bronze Star With Clusters & A Purple Heart
Couple Of Gold Bars On My Collar, Hell Oak Leaves !!
 
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Boo Radley said:
Yeah, tough talk. I get it. However, not having them invade in the first place is a better and more effective strategy.
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more of the passive aggressive idiocy

its best not to get into accidents on the highway but if you do-its better to have a well built car than a poorly constructed one

and what is funny is in the next week or so you will claim you aren't anti gun yet your thread of posts demonstrate that you constantly question why anyone would need a gun

Why do you spend so much time questioning why other people want guns

we get it-you don't like them-then don't own one

you really have no business or expertise in telling me what I need
 
TurtleDude said:
well I might only need 10K in coverage for a traffic accident but I prefer having much higher coverage just in case

Your posts are bordering on playing dumb in that passive-aggressive attack on gun rights again. Its better to have too many rounds and only need to shoot once versus having the limits anti gun assholes in politics have imposed and then have one more attacker than you have bullets

I guess you want to avoid dealing with the fact that if our cops dealing with the same criminals we might have to deal with have determined that X amount of rounds is proper, that's a good number for the rest of us in that area to use

you seem to believe that those of us who have CCW licenses are somehow less trustworthy than cops even though there is no evidence to support that hysteria
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Your obvious logic will be lost on anti-gun people. Why shouldn't the same gun restrictions be put on police if those restrictions still allow sufficient firearms to defend yourself and others?
 
ernst barkmann said:
I love the grape shot comment.......:lol:...thanks
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there was sling shot, chain shot, grape shot too,
Swords and bayonets thrusting through,

Steeleye Span-FIGHTING FOR STRANGERS
 
Boo Radley said:
However, not having them invade in the first place is a better and more effective strategy.
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So how do you plan to control what criminals do? How do you know what criminals will do? How do you know how many criminals will try to break in your home?

Wouldn't an effective strategy to be prepared for worst case scenarios? I remember my neighbors used to laugh and joke that I was a "prepper" for having 3 weeks worth of food, water, and supplies in my home - until we got hit by Katrina. Now they all have emergency supplies.
 
karpenter said:
Fake Airborn
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I think he's real airborne. I know I am. I just have a quick question. Why did you make a thread about Archie Bunker dying, recently, when it's been many years.
 
joko104 said:
Your obvious logic will be lost on anti-gun people. Why shouldn't the same gun restrictions be put on police if those restrictions still allow sufficient firearms to defend yourself and others?
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those who worship the state think that employees of the state are all wise and more valuable than us peasants.

they just ignore the obvious logic and can not address the fact that when someone is asked why they want a 18 shot glock for self defense a most reasonable answer is -ITS THE SAME WEAPON the experts in the PD said is ideal in this environment for defense against thugs
 
TurtleDude said:
there was sling shot, chain shot, grape shot too,
Swords and bayonets thrusting through,

Steeleye Span-FIGHTING FOR STRANGERS
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I had this instant flash in my mind of a man defending his home with a bronze cannon, shooting grape shot.
 
Dammitboy! said:
So how do you plan to control what criminals do? How do you know what criminals will do? How do you know how many criminals will try to break in your home?

Wouldn't an effective strategy to be prepared for worst case scenarios? I remember my neighbors used to laugh and joke that I was a "prepper" for having 3 weeks worth of food, water, and supplies in my home - until we got hit by Katrina. Now they all have emergency supplies.
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well if boo ever gets cancer we should deny him expensive chemo or radiation because he should have avoided getting in the first place
 
TurtleDude said:
well I might only need 10K in coverage for a traffic accident but I prefer having much higher coverage just in case

Your posts are bordering on playing dumb in that passive-aggressive attack on gun rights again. Its better to have too many rounds and only need to shoot once versus having the limits anti gun assholes in politics have imposed and then have one more attacker than you have bullets

I guess you want to avoid dealing with the fact that if our cops dealing with the same criminals we might have to deal with have determined that X amount of rounds is proper, that's a good number for the rest of us in that area to use

you seem to believe that those of us who have CCW licenses are somehow less trustworthy than cops even though there is no evidence to support that hysteria
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No. You're assertion as best I can tell is that it is reasonable for people to have large clips, that they are needed. Quit diverting to me, and try to demonstrate the need, support your assertion.
 
karpenter said:
And An Armed Citizenry IS The Strategy

Mass Killings Are Committed In 'Gun Free Zones'

Like Schools, Malls And Virginia Tech
All 'Gun Free Zones'

'Gun Free Zone' Signs Say:
Hey, Psycho !!
Here's Your Victims...

Now, Show Me Were It Ain't
Fake Airborn

Hey, Maybe I'll Pretend I'm 101st
Or Paste A Bronze Star With Clusters & A Purple Heart
Couple Of Gold Bars On My Collar, Hell Oak Leaves !!
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Can you express it better?
 
It's been demonstrated repeatedly. Only the brain dead would have trouble seeing that.

One more time: If the police think they need them - then I need them. We face the same criminal element.
 
TurtleDude said:
more of the passive aggressive idiocy

its best not to get into accidents on the highway but if you do-its better to have a well built car than a poorly constructed one

and what is funny is in the next week or so you will claim you aren't anti gun yet your thread of posts demonstrate that you constantly question why anyone would need a gun

Why do you spend so much time questioning why other people want guns

we get it-you don't like them-then don't own one

you really have no business or expertise in telling me what I need
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Yes, it is best to not get into accidents. I take those steps and not drive a tank. Again, you have the right to have a gun. You have the right to self defense. This is not the issue. Why do you need more than the job requires?
 
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