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Would You Give Up Your Guns?

Would you comply with a gun ban?

  • Yes, I would.

    Votes: 11 16.7%

  • No, I would not.

    Votes: 55 83.3%
  • Total voters
    66
Pilot said:
First, I don't think is a realistic outcome of the current gun control debate. But I have seen many claim that if the day did come, that gun owners would overwhelmingly comply and hand in their guns. I request that only people who either currently own a firearm or have in the past vote in the poll, but obviously all are welcome to post and discuss it.
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I voted no on the assumption you mean all guns in the band.
 
No offense intended here either. I thought my post was very clear that I had no objections to gun ownership and I specifically talked about myself and no one else. I don't have children, I don't exhibit wealth, I don't start **** with people, I'm loved and watched over by my neighbors and while I live in the heart of the city where there is plenty of petty crime, I'm very low on the target list. I also used to have a bad temper and while I'm now the mellowest old guy you could ask for, I still worry about anger causing irresponsibility. Everybody has different circumstances.

I'm sorry you had to use your gun, I'm glad you had one in your time of need and I support your right to as many guns as you're willing to invest in.



Jerry said:
Ok, no offence intended here but I don't know you, I don't see how any fact-dependent situation about you affects or applies to me or anyone else, and I don't see how you're representative of any significant demographic.

I had to use my gun just last month, so we're at a draw.
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Thrilla said:
I read today about a Kentucky sheriff declaring his office will not enforce any new federal gun bans.
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Even better, perhaps; I understand that in Wyoming, there's a bill in the works that, when enacted, will make it a criminal offense for any federal agent to attempt to enforce any federal gun law in the state, punishable by fines of up to $2,000 and up to two years in jail.
 
If the government had good animal control of dangerous/pest species. If Venison, Elk, Moose, Antelope and other game animal meat was sold in supermarkets. And if Liberalism and all other forms of socialism were made a capital crime.

Then I might, just maybe consider it. Until then, No way. You can try to take them, but it wouldn't be the first battle I was in, fighting for what I believe in. Been there, done that and don't want to do it again, but will if I have to.
 
Pilot said:
First, I don't think is a realistic outcome of the current gun control debate. But I have seen many claim that if the day did come, that gun owners would overwhelmingly comply and hand in their guns. I request that only people who either currently own a firearm or have in the past vote in the poll, but obviously all are welcome to post and discuss it.
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Not this gun owner.
 
I suspect that the police would be overwhelmed by theft reports on that horrible last day of liberty and freedom.....
 
Pilot said:
First, I don't think is a realistic outcome of the current gun control debate. But I have seen many claim that if the day did come, that gun owners would overwhelmingly comply and hand in their guns. I request that only people who either currently own a firearm or have in the past vote in the poll, but obviously all are welcome to post and discuss it.
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I don't have any guns. I lost them all in a boating accident.
 
Blackdog said:
I used to be a patriot and spent years defending my country and in law enforcement. Now as a retired individual I do private security. Now days I look around and I don't even recognize my country of birth anymore.

I will not say what I would do openly because this site may be monitored. I will say I no longer trust the government or the American people to make the right decision. Every year I see us move closer not to socialism or communism but true democracy, rather than the constitutional republic we are supposed to be. The American people are getting the government they deserve.

This country is moving in a bad direction and I and my wife already have plans to leave after her retirement.

At this point all I can say is good riddance.
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Your not the only one. I became disillusioned way back at the start of the Clinton years. But looking around, I don't see anyplace that I would go to. No place that I see is even remotely on the right track. America is failing, there is no doubt of that, instead of others following our leadership, we have sunken into the morass of the others. China is perhaps rising, but needs a lot of change to ever get there. Other than that, all I can see is a dark age for mankind as America fails. So, no place left to run to, all I can do is stand and fight where I am, if I am forced to.
 
DVSentinel said:
Your not the only one. I became disillusioned way back at the start of the Clinton years. But looking around, I don't see anyplace that I would go to. No place that I see is even remotely on the right track. America is failing, there is no doubt of that, instead of others following our leadership, we have sunken into the morass of the others. China is perhaps rising, but needs a lot of change to ever get there. Other than that, all I can see is a dark age for mankind as America fails. So, no place left to run to, all I can do is stand and fight where I am, if I am forced to.
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I am 50 so I have maybe 20 to 30 years if I am lucky. So I will be in South America near the Caribbean, and I don't care if it all goes to hell. I will not be here to see it.
 
All the tough talk....you won't pull the trigger. When it's very real and in your face, you won't fire.

Resistance will be in the form of legal maneuvering, not violence, but if push came to shove, were there a gun ban, you wouldn't pull the trigger. You know it, I know it. You won't do it.
 
Jerry said:
All the tough talk....you won't pull the trigger. When it's very real and in your face, you won't fire.

Resistance will be in the form of legal maneuvering, not violence, but if push came to shove, were there a gun ban, you wouldn't pull the trigger. You know it, I know it. You won't do it.
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You seem pretty confident in that assertion.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
You seem pretty confident in that assertion.
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Yup, pretty confident. When push comes to shove people will turn in their guns, because 1. most gun owners obey the law first and own a gun second (that's why we go along with registration/permits/machine-gun bans, etc), and 2. people will realize that a civil war will open the US up to our enemies and everyone on both sides of the gun issue will lose.

I'm sure there will be a few who will actually shoot a cop in the heat of the moment, and if they live through the ordeal they will sit in prison for the rest of their lives, but most will see the ban coming and turn them in.

Also, if you look at all these guns being bought in the last month, it's not because people are preparing for war against the government People are buying guns so that they can turn around and resell that gun for a profit after that kind of gun is restricted. They're trying to make money, not defend their 2A right.

No, if there was going to be bloodshed it would have happened in 1987.

I give it 50 years tops and US gun laws will look like Canada's.

I say this because of the immutable truth: Politics always trumps ideology.
 
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Jerry said:
Yup, pretty confident. When push comes to shove people will turn in their guns, because 1. most gun owners obey the law first and own a gun second (that's why we go along with registration/permits/machine-gun bans, etc), and 2. people will realize that a civil war will open the US up to our enemies and everyone on both sides of the gun issue will lose.

I'm sure there will be a few who will actually shoot a cop in the heat of the moment, and if they live through the ordeal they will sit in prison for the rest of their lives, but most will see the ban coming and turn them in.

Also, if you look at all these guns being bought in the last month, it's not because people are preparing for war against the government People are buying guns so that they can turn around and resell that gun for a profit after that kind of gun is restricted. They're trying to make money, not defend their 2A right.

No, if there was going to be bloodshed it would have happened in 1987.

I give it 50 years tops and US gun laws will look like Canada's.

I say this because of the immutable truth: Politics always trumps ideology.
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Nope gun owners will not turn in their guns, well perhaps a few stupid ones will. The rest of us will lose or get or firearms stolen in mass as soon as they wanted to take them away.
There is no way that I will give up family heirlooms just because we temporarily lose the right to own firearms. Unlike Australia we would fight a legal battle to return our liberties and freedoms back to the people. And as soon as we win that battle amazingly all those missing firearms will turn up.

But I agree that most gun owners are not planing on shooting anyone in reality.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Nope gun owners will not turn in their guns, well perhaps a few stupid ones will. The rest of us will lose or get or firearms stolen in mass as soon as they wanted to take them away.
There is no way that I will give up family heirlooms just because we temporarily lose the right to own firearms. Unlike Australia we would fight a legal battle to return our liberties and freedoms back to the people. And as soon as we win that battle amazingly all those missing firearms will turn up.

But I agree that most gun owners are not planing on shooting anyone in reality.
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Sure, stash away your guns and pray you never get caught with them, which means you can't ever use them, not even for otherwise lawful self defense.
 
Jerry said:
Yup, pretty confident. When push comes to shove people will turn in their guns, because 1. most gun owners obey the law first and own a gun second (that's why we go along with registration/permits/machine-gun bans, etc), and 2. people will realize that a civil war will open the US up to our enemies and everyone on both sides of the gun issue will lose.

I'm sure there will be a few who will actually shoot a cop in the heat of the moment, and if they live through the ordeal they will sit in prison for the rest of their lives, but most will see the ban coming and turn them in.

Also, if you look at all these guns being bought in the last month, it's not because people are preparing for war against the government People are buying guns so that they can turn around and resell that gun for a profit after that kind of gun is restricted. They're trying to make money, not defend their 2A right.

No, if there was going to be bloodshed it would have happened in 1987.

I give it 50 years tops and US gun laws will look like Canada's.

I say this because of the immutable truth: Politics always trumps ideology.
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I will not be in the country anymore or dead from old age whatever, lol. So I will not have to turn in anything.
 
If the government could get the criminals to give up their guns first, then I would give up the guns I don't own. It make no sense that honest people have to disarm, first, unless those who seek this feel closer to the criminals.
 
Blackdog said:
I will not be in the country anymore or dead from old age whatever, lol. So I will not have to turn in anything.
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Which country is going to allow you to bring your guns with you?
 
It is hard to answer, as I don't own any guns.
There are still 3 boxes of Liberty, The first 2 can be exercised A LOT, before the
third need to come into play.
#1 Vote the guys out who do not or will not follow the Constitution.
#2 Nullify the prosecution of anyone found in violation of an illegal ban.
Keep in mind Jury nullification has a lesser weight than case law, but many cases start to add up.
 
Jerry said:
Which country is going to allow you to bring your guns with you?
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Who said anything about taking guns? I mean if I really feel the need I could get a licence and you are allowed 1 weapon per person. Importation is easy, but you must be licensed. So I could bring say My AK which is legal and my XD 45 because of my wife. What else would I need? It's no worse then getting a weapon in Southern Illinois.
 
Blackdog said:
Who said anything about taking guns?
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Check the title of this thread. By posting you are representing yourself as a gun owner for the OP's question to apply to you and for you to then post your answer. If you won't be a gun owner, then who the **** gives a **** about anything you have to say about this?

You won't be in the country, you won't be owning guns. Fine, there's nothing to talk about with you then.
 
Jerry said:
Check the title of this thread. By posting you are representing yourself as a gun owner for the OP's question to apply to you and for you to then post your answer. If you won't be a gun owner, then who the **** gives a **** about anything you have to say about this?

You won't be in the country, you won't be owning guns. Fine, there's nothing to talk about with you then.
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I could if I wanted to, so you can take that and well you know. Like anyone gives a **** about your bull****.

I mean people sounded just like you at the start of WWII...

Oh they will not attack Poland...

Or the Civil War...

Oh they will never leave the Union...

Or the Revolutionary War...

The colonials don't have the guts to leave the empire.

If it's one thing history has taught us is never, ever say never.

Fact is I will am not saying what I am doing with my guns, you figure it out.
 
Jerry said:
Sure, stash away your guns and pray you never get caught with them, which means you can't ever use them, not even for otherwise lawful self defense.
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And if I just give them away I wont be able to ever use them at all because they will be destroyed and gone forever. Its not like they would take them away and keep them in a giant warehouse somewhere with my name on them ready to be picked up someday.

So your big plan is to just hand your guns over and forget about them?

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Blackdog said:
I could if I wanted to, so you can take that and well you know. Like anyone gives a **** about your bull****.

I mean people sounded just like you at the start of WWII...

Oh they will not attack Poland...

Or the Civil War...

Oh they will never leave the Union...

Or the Revolutionary War...

The colonials don't have the guts to leave the empire.

If it's one thing history has taught us is never, ever say never.

Fact is I will am not saying what I am doing with my guns, you figure it out.
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You're not gona start a war, you're putting your tail between your legs and fleeing the country, so "never".
 
FreedomFromAll said:
So your big plan is to just hand your guns over and forget about them?
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I'm not keeping something I'll go to prison over and I'm not shooting a cop/soldier. If another option presents itself then I'll have to look at it when it exists.
 
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