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Will equal gay rights & polgamy rights lead to leglized pedophila(child rape)?

Will equal gay rights & polgamy rights lead to leglized pedophila(child rape)?


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Many years ago, I was listening to a radio talk show in San Francisco, and the guest was some guy who tracked NAMBLA. "Tracked" as in keeping tabs on them because he sought to limit their progress and influence. A "watch dog, if you will.

Anyway, he said that groups like NAMBLA had been researching the very beginnings of the gay acceptance movement from decades earlier and were actively planning the same strategies.

Don't be so sure it will never happen. It probably won't happen in any of our lifetimes, but that doesn't mean it never will.

While of course to say never is just a guess but you pointed out the exact flaw that will defeat them every time.

"same strategies"

if this is what they are doing im even MORE confident because the same strategies will always fail because they arent the same, it isnt equal rights and there were no strategies to changes the effect the words already mention.


Thats what my point is, its simply not the same.
 
I listened to Rush on my car radio today and he just heard about this and he's mighty afeared the pedophilia is imminent as a new social fashion. So, no worries, Rush is on the job.
 
"Polygamy rights" are definitely on the same slippery slope of "gay rights", simply because the "traditional" definition of marriage had to be changed to accommodate gays; if they already discarded the gender, there's no reason to not to discard the number. And, to be honest, I don't see the harm in any of it at all.

But nothing is going to normalize pedophilia, short of lowering the age of consent every few years.
 
No definitely not...society would never allow that...
 
Society would never allow many things that it now not only allows, but encourages.

It always has stood firm with crimes against children.
 
Society would never allow many things that it now not only allows, but encourages.

do any of those things involve victims? assault? rape?
 
This question starts with the assumption that homosexuality is linked to pedophilia. actually 97% of child molesters are attracted to the opposite sex. It's stereotypically a prerequisite, but statistically highly improbable, for a gay person to be a pedophile. gay people aren't going to turn into pedophiles as a result of getting the same rights everyone else already has.
 
So you're either a) saying that the reason that 97% of child molesters are attracted to the opposite sex, is because society allows them to be attracted to the opposite sex, they needed permission in order for the attraction to the opposite sex to exist. b) saying that the reason that 97% of child molesters are attracted to the opposite sex, is because society allows them to molest children. or c) advertising your ignorance of the fact that 97% of child molesters are attracted to the opposite sex. which is it?
 
This question starts with the assumption that homosexuality is linked to pedophilia. actually 97% of child molesters are attracted to the opposite sex. It's stereotypically a prerequisite, but statistically highly improbable, for a gay person to be a pedophile. gay people aren't going to turn into pedophiles as a result of getting the same rights everyone else already has.

actually it points out the fact that homosexuality has zero to do with pedophilia, try reading it again
 
I listened to Rush on my car radio today and he just heard about this and he's mighty afeared the pedophilia is imminent as a new social fashion. So, no worries, Rush is on the job.

Rush is adding a new school to his current Limbaugh University for Conservatism. It's the Limbaugh School of fanaticism.

In fact, Rush is a "Fanatic without a cause".
 
actually it points out the fact that homosexuality has zero to do with pedophilia, try reading it again

Saying that homosexuality is linked to pedophilia is like saying that heterosexuality is linked to pedophilia. Being attracted to children is a fetish of its own, it cannot be placed within traditional orientations, just like attraction to animals of a specific sex.
 
Saying that homosexuality is linked to pedophilia is like saying that heterosexuality is linked to pedophilia. Being attracted to children is a fetish of its own, it cannot be placed within traditional orientations, just like attraction to animals of a specific sex.

well im not keen on the words fetish and traditional but you are correct, they are factually not related and anybody that thinks otherwise just simply proves how uneducated they are on this subject.
 
well im not keen on the words fetish and traditional but you are correct, they are factually not related and anybody that thinks otherwise just simply proves how uneducated they are on this subject.

A fetish is really just any abnormal and potentially harmful sexual attraction. Homosexuality is not a fetish, it is "traditional" (by that I meant more mainstream) so it's apples and oranges.
 
I'm not sure why so many people think there will be some trend toward a lower age of consent/age of marriage laws. That is the opposite of what we have been seeing, despite the greater acceptance of adults having what was once considered deviant sex with each other.

Most states allowed marriage for teens with just parental permission. Now, most states require a court order for teens to marry, the age the court order needed at dependent on the state, but many have it for any under 16. Heck, Mississippi laws say anyone under 21 must have parental consent, and Nebraska laws say anyone 17 or 18 (under 17 cannot marry) must have parental consent form. Several states have started to require premarital counseling for teens getting married. And many courts are denying marriage to teens, especially younger teens even for pregnancy.

It seems that most states are confining teens to only being able to sleep with someone around their age, period. And the trend is keeping age of marriage older, which is consistent with where we hold teens legally responsible for themselves (in most places). (Personally, I don't agree with Miss. or Neb.(18) law since someone old enough to enlist in the military without parental permission should not have to ask their parents to sign a permission form for them to get married.) Once a person can take legal responsibility for themselves, they should be allowed to legally marry. I wouldn't have an issue though with requiring premarital counseling for younger people getting married.
 
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I'm not sure why so many people think there will be some trend toward a lower age of consent/age of marriage laws. That is the opposite of what we have been seeing, despite the greater acceptance of adults having what was once considered deviant sex with each other.

Most states allowed marriage for teens with just parental permission. Now, most states require a court order for teens to marry, the age the court order needed at dependent on the state, but many have it for any under 16. Heck, Mississippi laws say anyone under 21 must have parental consent, and Nebraska laws say anyone 17 or 18 (under 17 cannot marry) must have parental consent form. Several states have started to require premarital counseling for teens getting married. And many courts are denying marriage to teens, especially younger teens even for pregnancy.

It seems that most states are confining teens to only being able to sleep with someone around their age, period. And the trend is keeping age of marriage older, which is consistent with where we hold teens legally responsible for themselves (in most places). (Personally, I don't agree with Miss. or Neb.(18) law since someone old enough to enlist in the military without parental permission should not have to ask their parents to sign a permission form for them to get married.) Once a person can take legal responsibility for themselves, they should be allowed to legally marry. I wouldn't have an issue though with requiring premarital counseling for younger people getting married.

ignorance? denial? fear? bigotry?

who knows but theres no logical reason to think equal rights for gays will lead to legal rape and sexually assult, its insanely dishonest and nobody rational buys it
 
Or c) This is a ridiculous question.

I'll vote for that one.
 
Or c) This is a ridiculous question.

I'll vote for that one.

I agree it is but yet the fact remains there are some uneducated enough around here to think that it will :shrug:

the thread was to show them how irrational and wrong their thinking was ;)
 
I agree it is but yet the fact remains there are some uneducated enough around here to think that it will :shrug:

the thread was to show them how irrational and wrong their thinking was ;)

Fair enough.

Thanks for setting me straight...pardon the pun.


On the positive side - almost 95% have so far said 'no'.
 
With social and political movements fighting for the equal rights of gays, the possibility of political and social moments gaining new rights for polygamy in the future do you think theres any logical reason to assume this will lead to legalizing child rape, molestation and sexual abuse for pedophilia rights?

A very small super minority do, they think that equal gay rights and future polygamy rights are equal to pedophilia.

Facts remains though there is no logic to support this broken train of thought because equal gay rights (gay marriage) and polygamy marriage do not need society to ignore, change or legalize the words: rape, minors, consent, abuse, molestation, assault, force and victim.

Now are there people on the planet that will say its equal rights or the same? im sure, theres people on the planet still fighting against gay rights, woman rights and minority rights, big whoop lol

I say this logic is severly broken because they aren't similar at all.

so the question is, will equal gay rights and possible future polygamy rights lead to legalized pedophilia?

Pedophelia would not be legalized because gay marriage and polygamy are related to marriage and its so called "sanctity." Whereas pedophelia is pertaining to sex and has nothing to do with marriage. In short you're comparing apples to oranges here.
 
Pedophelia would not be legalized because gay marriage and polygamy are related to marriage and its so called "sanctity." Whereas pedophelia is pertaining to sex and has nothing to do with marriage. In short you're comparing apples to oranges here.

I agree 100%
 
No, it won’t, and I’m getting tired of tearing down that weak argument in same-sex marriage debates I have with other people. Same-sex marriage will no more lead to those things than giving women the right to vote also led to giving children, animals, and house plants the right to vote.
 
No, it won’t, and I’m getting tired of tearing down that weak argument in same-sex marriage debates I have with other people. Same-sex marriage will no more lead to those things than giving women the right to vote also led to giving children, animals, and house plants the right to vote.

another correct answer!
 
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