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How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

How many here belong to a union?


  • Total voters
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Sort of an ENRON on wheels.

Why would you say that? Sustainability goals are set by the companies I deal with.
 
I have had two union jobs in the past (early 80's) but after seeing what each stood for I secured positions where my performance as an individual could be graded and rewarded.

You need more category. There has never been a union where I've worked. So, I've never belonged. But others in my field, and a few of the others I've worked in have factually made more money with better benefits.
 
You need more category. There has never been a union where I've worked. So, I've never belonged. But others in my field, and a few of the others I've worked in have factually made more money with better benefits.

when talking basic labor jobs, unions always pay more, when talking skilled performance based careers they pay less. They are for cattle that want to be treated like prize beef.
 
That is a good point, but look at the Post Office, they are going broke paying pensions they can no longer afford along with medical benefits. Why should be people not be expected to plan for their own futures?

I am not saying it is right or wrong on the pension thing. Just wanted to point out that there is an inter-generational wage shift going on in manufacturing (and arguably the 20 year old working beside my brother has been shafted by the union he is paying dues to for the benefit of others doing the same job in the same plant)
 
Not really, I don't sell anything. I calculate annual GJ's needed to meet budgets and then suggest possible revenue bearing substitues based on manufactuing by product streams in the area.

I just wanted to quote you so you will get my post. I wanted to say that Laborer union wages do not have anything to do with manufacturing union wages. Laborer unions are not causing any companies to move to China or anywhere else because they deal with infrastructure. ALL unions are different. You cannot lump them all together.
 
Why would you say that? Sustainability goals are set by the companies I deal with.

You don't make any pitches for various energy companies, alternative or conventional?
 
I just wanted to quote you so you will get my post. I wanted to say that Laborer union wages do not have anything to do with manufacturing union wages. Laborer unions are not causing any companies to move to China or anywhere else because they deal with infrastructure. ALL unions are different. You cannot lump them all together.

I see your point, but if you look you will see more and more highway paving and concrete companies employing non union foreign workers.
 
You don't make any pitches for various energy companies, alternative or conventional?

Not at all. I try to connect energy users with manfucturers in their area and suggest systems that could process these streams for beneficial reuse.
 
Have slackers take a chunk out of my paycheck? No thanks. I'd rather earn what I get and get what I earn.
 
when talking basic labor jobs, unions always pay more, when talking skilled performance based careers they pay less. They are for cattle that want to be treated like prize beef.

Not sure what you're calling skilled. I have my masters a couple of degrees. I'm both a nurse and a writing and speech instructor. I can also drive a truck, parachute, and work as a paramedic. I've worked as a cook, a security guard, construction worker, sales person, and delivery man. Which, if any, of these would you call skilled?
 
Have slackers take a chunk out of my paycheck? No thanks. I'd rather earn what I get and get what I earn.

I would as well, it used to make me so mad to see a 4 hour/day worker make the same as me.
 
Not at all. I try to connect energy users with manfucturers in their area and suggest systems that could process these streams for beneficial reuse.

So, you're strictly a consultant. Is this your own company?
 
Not sure what you're calling skilled. I have my masters a couple of degrees. I'm both a nurse and a writing and speech instructor. I can also drive a truck, parachute, and work as a paramedic. I've worked as a cook, a security guard, construction worker, sales person, and delivery man. Which, if any, of these would you call skilled?

Is there a point?
 
So, you're strictly a consultant. Is this your own company?

Let's call it a shared company, employee owned.
 
Have slackers take a chunk out of my paycheck? No thanks. I'd rather earn what I get and get what I earn.

And what if you do not "get what you earn"? What if you are paid a pittance for working your ass off?
 
Is there a point?

Well. I didn't buy your statement. I think a couple of those jobs require skill, and yet have union employees. But I wanted to make sure you saw them as skill as well. I'm trying to make sense if your generalization.
 
And what if you do not "get what you earn"? What if you are paid a pittance for working your ass off?

Find a new career, that is the great thing about living here!
 
Well. I didn't buy your statement. I think a couple of those jobs require skill, and yet have union employees. But I wanted to make sure you saw them as skill as well. I'm trying to make sense if your generalization.

Truly skilled positons will always pay better if performance based.
 
I see your point, but if you look you will see more and more highway paving and concrete companies employing non union foreign workers.

I believe that most highway departments are union, therefore they have to pay ANY participating companies prevailing wage, union or not.
 
I believe that most highway departments are union, therefore they have to pay ANY participating companies prevailing wage, union or not.

Most are and each state regulates them differently.
 
Truly skilled positons will always pay better if performance based.

That is not specific enough for me to know what you're talking about. I promise you if you have an accident this weekend, and need emergency personnel, you better hope thy are skilled.
 
Find a new career, that is the great thing about living here!

And what if the pay at the new career is also an unfair pittance? What if you are working for a large company where the stockholders are being paid well, the executives are being paid well, but the workers are getting paid poorly?
 
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