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What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage?

  • Because I’m gay/lesbian

    Votes: 3 2.2%

  • Because it’s an equal rights issue

    Votes: 78 57.4%

  • Because gays/lesbians love each other too

    Votes: 6 4.4%

  • Because I despise bigots/haters

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Because I don’t want to be labeled a bigot

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I’m opposed to gay marriage

    Votes: 13 9.6%

  • I don’t care, either way

    Votes: 16 11.8%

  • Other

    Votes: 19 14.0%
  • Total voters
    136
  • Poll closed .
Guy Incognito said:
It's probably similar to the reason you're opposed to equal civil rights for consenting incestuous adults and consenting groups of polygamists.
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The hell? Ive never opposed either of those things in my entire life. That would be a fundamental violation of my moral code: that it's none of my god damn business what consenting adults do with each other.

You want to provide a quote for your outlandish accusation?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
The hell? Ive never opposed either of those things in my entire life. That would be a fundamental violation of my moral code: that it's none of my god damn business what consenting adults do with each other.

You want to provide a quote for your outlandish accusation?
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Oh, sorry I must have gotten you mixed up with somebody else.
 
Henrin said:
The only right in question is the right to marry whoever we want. If we all have this right it would imply there are no new rights being added for the groups you are rejecting.
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LMAO im not rejecting ANYBODY fail, try again

what you posted doesnt change the fact that polygamy, which i would support if given a vote (and have said so many many times here at DP) is not a equal right argument its a new right. :shrug:
 
There is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits a state from legalizing polygamy.
 
Objective-J said:
LMAO im not rejecting ANYBODY fail, try again

what you posted doesnt change the fact that polygamy, which i would support if given a vote (and have said so many many times here at DP) is not a equal right argument its a new right. :shrug:
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There is no new right that would be created. It's really that simple.
 
Henrin said:
There is no new right that would be created. It's really that simple.
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oh so now your gonna drop the part about me (good move since that was a complete fail) and just stick to a dishonest semantics game? good luck ;)
 
Guy Incognito said:
I'm shocked that you would malign polygamists like that. Polygamy is not always the abusive polygyny stereotype you seem to think it is. Equal protection logically requires that an institution open to a pair of people be open to group of people as well. If you can have a husband and wife you should be able to have a husband and a husband, or three husbands, or what have you. The association of polygamy with abuse is an offensive stereotype that is every bit as offensive and degrading to polygamists as anything stereotype about gays.

Honestly, winston, look at yourself. It looks incredibly small minded. Just switch the word polygamous with gay in everything you just said and it is clear how intolerant you are being. You're just on the wrong side of progress on this.
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Oh dear what a lame defense of your disingenuous position on polygamy
 
Dragonfly said:
An "arm of the homosexual agenda"????

What is that exactly?
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I hope this helps...

"In a 1992 report by John Leo in U.S. News and World Report, he notes some books which were part of New York City's public school curriculum.

The first-grade book, "Children of the Rainbow", stated on page 145, which states that teachers must "be aware of varied family structures, including...gay or lesbian parents," and "children must be taught to acknowledge the positive aspects of each type of household." Another children book is Heather Has Two Mommies, which is about a lesbian couple having a child through artificial insemination. Another book, Gloria Goes to Gay Pride, states, "Some women love women, some men love men, some women and men love each other. That's why we march in the parade, so everyone can have a choice."

It's easy to see where things go from there, as marriage is the next step in the agenda.


Homosexual Agenda - Conservapedia
 
Dooble said:
I hope this helps...

"In a 1992 report by John Leo in U.S. News and World Report, he notes some books which were part of New York City's public school curriculum.

The first-grade book, "Children of the Rainbow", stated on page 145, which states that teachers must "be aware of varied family structures, including...gay or lesbian parents," and "children must be taught to acknowledge the positive aspects of each type of household." Another children book is Heather Has Two Mommies, which is about a lesbian couple having a child through artificial insemination. Another book, Gloria Goes to Gay Pride, states, "Some women love women, some men love men, some women and men love each other. That's why we march in the parade, so everyone can have a choice."

It's easy to see where things go from there, as marriage is the next step in the agenda.


Homosexual Agenda - Conservapedia
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The Homosexual Agenda, or homosexual ideology, consists of a set of beliefs and objectives designed to promote and even mandate acceptance and approval of homosexuality, and the strategies used to implement such. This article notes that the goals and means of this movement include indoctrinating students in public school, restricting the free speech of opposition, obtaining special treatment for homosexuals, distorting Biblical teaching and science, and interfering with freedom of association. Advocates of the homosexual agenda seek special rights for homosexuals that other people don't have, such as immunity from criticism (see hate speech, hate crimes). Such special rights will necessarily come at the expense of the rights of broader society.

President Barack Hussein Obama and nearly all Democrat politicians now advocate the homosexual agenda, reflecting the growing financial power of the homosexual network.
Among all the liberal belief systems, the homosexual ideology is the most self-centered or selfish - unlike the vast charity performed by churches, homosexual charity can be considered an oxymoron.
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Seriously?????

I mean really????

You believe and follow this line of thinking????

Actually - it explains a great deal about you and your posts.....but it's still so very sad.......
 
Lakryte said:
And those against interracial marriage argued that God and the Bible condemned the marriage of blacks and whites. History repeats itself I guess.
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And they were dead wrong.

I'm curious. Why do you equate interracial marriage to gay marriage, when the former has zero control over its condition? Are you suggesting that ALL homosexuals are/were born gay?
 
Dragonfly said:
Seriously?????

I mean really????

You believe and follow this line of thinking????

Actually - it explains a great deal about you and your posts.....but it's still so very sad.......
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Why is it sad that somebody believes differently than you do? I'd blow my brains out if everybody agreed with me on everything all the time. That would be soooooo boring.
 
Dragonfly said:
Seriously?????
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Yes.

Dragonfly said:
I mean really????
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I mean, Yes.

Dragonfly said:
You believe and follow this line of thinking????
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I see, and support this kind of thinking, and I'm a little surprised that you don't.

Dragonfly said:
Actually - it explains a great deal about you and your posts.....but it's still so very sad.......
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Guilt trips don't work on me, Dragonfly, especially when it's a hysteric who's trying to lay it on me. ;)
 
Fisher said:
Why is it sad that somebody believes differently than you do? I'd blow my brains out if everybody agreed with me on everything all the time. That would be soooooo boring.
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When people use pathetic sources, veiled in highly political slants, designed to promote intolerance and even hatred - I could do with more "boring" in the world.
 
Dragonfly said:
Are you suggesting most, if not all are making a conscious CHOICE to be gay?
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Answer my question or I ignore the rest of your posts. I'm not going to get sucked into another brainless exchange.
 
Dragonfly said:
When people use pathetic sources, veiled in highly political slants, designed to promote intolerance and even hatred - I could do with more "boring" in the world.
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Not likely. I will say, however, that Wikipedia is a horrible source.
 
Dragonfly said:
When people use pathetic sources, veiled in highly political slants, designed to promote intolerance and even hatred - I could do with more "boring" in the world.
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Of course, being intolerant of those who do not agree with you is not exactly tolerant in my world view. There are few worldviews I cannot tolerate just so long as they are reasonable, principled, logical, and/or civil. Not everyone is going to like or support gays just like not everyone is going to get how much fun it is to shoot lots of bullets rapidly for no particular reason, but that is how the ball bounces I suppose.
 
Fisher said:
Of course, being intolerant of those who do not agree with you is not exactly tolerant in my world view. There are few worldviews I cannot tolerate just so long as they are reasonable, principled, logical, and/or civil. Not everyone is going to like or support gays just like not everyone is going to get how much fun it is to shoot lots of bullets rapidly for no particular reason, but that is how the ball bounces I suppose.
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One does not affect other people the other has the possibility of killing someone. Gay rights are an equality issue while gun control is not.
 
0bserver92 said:
One does not affect other people the other has the possibility of killing someone. Gay rights are an equality issue while gun control is not.
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Rights are rights. They exist or they do not. What type of rights they are is irrelevant. It would be like me saying Gun rights are Constitutional but gay rights are not.
 
Fisher said:
Rights are rights. They exist or they do not. What type of rights they are is irrelevant. It would be like me saying Gun rights are Constitutional but gay rights are not.
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Well same-sex marriage is an equality issue in most Western democracies now, gun rights are a U.S. only issue.
 
0bserver92 said:
Well same-sex marriage is an equality issue in most Western democracies now, gun rights are a U.S. only issue.
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Be that as it may, the law of the US is based upon the law of the US, not the law of Finland. Liberals in general do a piss poor job by my measure making Constitutional arguments and countering strict constructionist arguments, but it isn't that hard to do even if people do not agree with you.
 
Objective-J said:
thats not EQUAL rights that would be NEW rights. HUGE difference.
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funny that you keep ignoring the fact that, under current laws, marriage for gays is also a "new" right...since they don't currently have said right.
 
0bserver92 said:
Gay rights are an equality issue
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but polygamist rights are not an equality issue?

and you continue to wonder why people call you a hypocrite.... :lamo
 
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