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Should we (as members of society) encourage civil disobedience?

Should civil disobedience be encouraged?

  • yes

    Votes: 3 30.0%

  • no

    Votes: 5 50.0%

  • only on things i support

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Total voters
    10
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Just what the title says. Some argue that we as a society have better ways to express our concerns and frustrations, others may say part of our duty as Americans is to excercise civil disobedience. What do you think and why?
 
Too many factors to take into account. A simple 'Yes' or 'No' answer will not suffice.
 
Civil disobedience is hor our country is formed. It should be a last resort. There's the rub, though. At what point does one determine "it's time"? When do we say, enough is enough? And will we be unified in doing so? Or is our greater good , so to speak, to be served by criminals, instead of a civilly disobedient populace?
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Too many factors to take into account. A simple 'Yes' or 'No' answer will not suffice.
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I agree with this.Civil disobedience is far to complicated an act to simply answer yes or no without knowing the situations or the parameters
 
muciti said:
Just what the title says. Some argue that we as a society have better ways to express our concerns and frustrations, others may say part of our duty as Americans is to excercise civil disobedience. What do you think and why?
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The necessity of civil disobedience is always subjective. If a person has tried to handle an issue through the proper channels, but come across a brick wall of injustice, then civil disobedience is definitely a viable route.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
The necessity of civil disobedience is always subjective. If a person has tried to handle an issue through the proper channels, but come across a brick wall of injustice, then civil disobedience is definitely a viable route.
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Do you have an example? When would it be acceptable and when is it unacceptable?
 
muciti said:
Do you have an example? When would it be acceptable and when is it unacceptable?
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Well, I covered that in the first post. I stated the necessity is always subjective. Meaning nobody can tell someone when they can or can not use civil disobedience. 99% of the time that civil obedience is used, society or the government is against those people. So it's almost a requirement that some think it's unacceptable.
 
muciti said:
define when you think it is ok or not.
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The non-violent and non destructive acts of civil disobedience used by the followers of Ghandi and Dr. Martin Luther King used at their respective times I find totally acceptable.
 
Verthaine said:
The non-violent and non destructive acts of civil disobedience used by the followers of Ghandi and Dr. Martin Luther King used at their respective times I find totally acceptable.
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Do you think the protests, and civil disobedience used today will be seen in the same light as those of Ghandi and King? We have them popping up all over the world, and more mildly even here in the United States.
 
muciti said:
Do you think the protests, and civil disobedience used today will be seen in the same light as those of Ghandi and King? We have them popping up all over the world, and more mildly even here in the United States.
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Only those in future generations can determine that.
If they are using the same tactics and philosophies as Ghandi/MLK Jr. then I suppose so. Each situation and circumstance are different.
It really all depends what people are protesting about and how they go about it,plus the tactics used by their opponent all are determing factors.

This thread is a little to vague to give a more accurate answer.
 
muciti said:
Just what the title says. Some argue that we as a society have better ways to express our concerns and frustrations, others may say part of our duty as Americans is to excercise civil disobedience. What do you think and why?
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Only possible answer: depends.

What is the issue people want to be disobedient about and do I agree with them?

Obama orders gun confiscation: I will refuse Army orders to report to my armory and I will arm and join the protest.
ObamaCare finally runs out and, like Greece, people riot for their hand-outs: I will gleefully report to my armory and prepare for 'counter-riot operations'.
 
Civil Disobedience is a legitimate expression of displeasure with the Government SO LONG AS the individuals engaging in it are there of their own volition, are adults, and are willing to incur whatever consequences come from their actions.
 
Civil disobedience is a perfect valid... and effective... form of protest. But only if it's done right... and that includes willingly accepting the consequences.
 
I am all for nonviolent refusal to comply with laws you feel are immoral on unjust. Just be willing to face the consequences.
 
Tigger said:
Civil Disobedience is a legitimate expression of displeasure with the Government SO LONG AS the individuals engaging in it are there of their own volition, are adults, and are willing to incur whatever consequences come from their actions.
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:shock:
 
It needs a careful balance. We have to argue it on matters that seem to require it, over those where it is a convenience to engage in civil disobedience. Nor, should we encourage people to romanticize going to jail. The most troubling aspect about it is that it can become the de facto response to any person's displeasure with authority.
 
Tigger said:
What do you find so shocking about my viewpoint on this issue?
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As an authoritarian it just surprised me that you would consider civil disobedience a legitimate form of dissent.
 
Sarcogito said:
As an authoritarian it just surprised me that you would consider civil disobedience a legitimate form of dissent.
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Please take not of the last phrase of my comment..... "...and are willing to incur whatever consequences come from their actions." Those consequences could very well be physical injury, imprisonment, loss of rights, etc... depending on what you are campaigning for, and what methods of civil disobedience you choose to employ.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Too many factors to take into account. A simple 'Yes' or 'No' answer will not suffice.
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Fully agree..
There are times when civil disobedience is necessary (rights of minorities for one) but not just for the sake of it - without good reason..
Also, it takes time for man to progress...Potential rioters should know this and be careful, lest they lose support..I think this happened with the Occupy Wall Street Movement......
 
Verthaine said:
The non-violent and non destructive acts of civil disobedience used by the followers of Ghandi and Dr. Martin Luther King used at their respective times I find totally acceptable.
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These people were able to achieve much , much more than the John Browns of CD (civil disobedience), but I would still support a Brown, I think..
The problem of today, IMO, is one of a lack of communication, a lack of truth, openness, honesty..and these are extremely difficult to "repair".
 
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