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If she is really symbolic, what is the point of having her .... why don't we get rid of her?

From Monarchy.net:

A Summary of some of the many benefits of our modern constitutional monarchy
Our modern Constitutional Monarchy gives us a Queen who is:

an impartial symbolic Head of State above politics, commercial and factional interests
a focus for national unity, national awards and honours and national institutions
a Head of State whom we share with 16 other independent countries because she is their Queen too and that links us all together amazingly and most valuably
the Head of the Commonwealth because all 53 countries recognise her as this and so she is a special unifying symbol for them too
the centrepiece of colourful non-political ceremonial and national celebrations
separate from the Head of Government (the Prime Minister), unlike in some countries where the two are combined, often with difficulty
able to give impartial non-political support to the work of a wide range of different types of organizations, faiths, charities, artists, craftsmen etc
a Head of State completely under the democratic control of Parliament but not having to change every few years in divisive elections
at the head of a Royal Family who can share the duties and represent the Queen
a constant, lasting symbolic head of the country with links back through our whole history and assured lines of continuity into the future
a worldwide well-known and respected symbol of our country carrying out State Visits and goodwill tours in other countries
 
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nice ...
how about the fact that williams son or daughter will be the next symbolic head?

screw that .... I want to be the symbolic head!
can I run for that position?
why does it have to be heriditary?
 
Indeed, with the possible exception of Capitalist Democracy (depending on how capitalist).


capitalism is going to create losers in the economy
there are people that do not have the capital or the skill set to succeed in the competitive economy
there will be crime, prostitution and violence
not to mention the fact that we won't be able to combat war or poverty

the world federated communist republic will solve these problems!
 
capitalism is going to create losers in the economy
there are people that do not have the capital or the skill set to succeed in the competitive economy
there will be crime, prostitution and violence
not to mention the fact that we won't be able to combat war or poverty

the world federated communist republic will solve these problems!

Kid, I really don't want to stamp on your enthusiasm and interest in politics, but you really do need to educate yourself on the very basic principles of political theory. I'd suggest a primer such as this...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Introduction-Political-Philosophy-Jonathan-Wolff/dp/019929609X/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1355169700&sr=8-3
 
I recently read something from the MIT courseware .... utilitarianism .... it means that the government will structure policy so that it benefits the greater ....
we just need to trust the government ... what is the other option?

war in all the Arab countries?
economic failure in the US and EU
Humanity's progression is inevitable, but, he must not progress too fast and leave others and other things behind..
Unfortunately, we need the conservatives..
Yes, we should trust our government, but, has our government earned the trust ???
We do need far more involvement in government...
 
Humanity's progression is inevitable, but, he must not progress too fast and leave others and other things behind..
Unfortunately, we need the conservatives..
Yes, we should trust our government, but, has our government earned the trust ???
We do need far more involvement in government...

how do you suggest 7 billion people get more involved in government?
it is pragmatic to allow the few to govern
 
capitalism is going to create losers in the economy
there are people that do not have the capital or the skill set to succeed in the competitive economy
there will be crime, prostitution and violence
not to mention the fact that we won't be able to combat war or poverty

the world federated communist republic will solve these problems!
For capitalism to be successful, the level of education must be raised...
college level education for all....????
Anything forced on the people will NOT work....
Hashmann, we have taken the first voluntary step of 100 toward "communism" or a utopia, ..give 50 to 100 years per step....
 
For capitalism to be successful, the level of education must be raised...
college level education for all....????
Anything forced on the people will NOT work....
Hashmann, we have taken the first voluntary step of 100 toward "communism" or a utopia, ..give 50 to 100 years per step....

I would like to see doctoral degree holders in my economy
the only problem is that the capitalist economy will not allow for people to pursue studies
in the capitalist economy, employment and a mortgage are forced on the people
either forced employment or steal and prostitute to get your piece of the bread

what do you mean we have taken the first step?
 
Involvement in government
voting
conversing with government officials
Here, they must cooperate, and I see too little of this.
being knowledgible.....a toughie today, this means, IMO, turning off the radio and TV and reading instead..
voting
Right now, the real participation may be as low as 10%....for intelligent voting....or protesting.....a much lower rate.....
Egypt and Syria seem to be doing OK, participation-wise...
On this forum, what is it, one billion possible and one out of 100000 participating ?
voting
 
Involvement in government
voting
conversing with government officials
Here, they must cooperate, and I see too little of this.
being knowledgible.....a toughie today, this means, IMO, turning off the radio and TV and reading instead..
voting
Right now, the real participation may be as low as 10%....for intelligent voting....or protesting.....a much lower rate.....
Egypt and Syria seem to be doing OK, participation-wise...
On this forum, what is it, one billion possible and one out of 100000 participating ?
voting

how do we get intelligent voting?
you are right .... most people do not know how to vote!
if you educated people on politics, I bet they would vote for a communist world federated government in a referendum
what is IMO
i'm new to forums ... this doesn't seem to bad .. could be better ... but this is a new thread and I don't know the stats ...
how do you see that we are involved in government ... most of the first worlds population do not have their say in government ... it is not pragmatic!
 
capitalism is going to create losers in the economy
there are people that do not have the capital or the skill set to succeed in the competitive economy
there will be crime, prostitution and violence
not to mention the fact that we won't be able to combat war or poverty

the world federated communist republic will solve these problems!

That's offensive to professional prostitutes who by no capitalist standard, are losers. Like the girls @ the Bunny ranch, they make bank and its what they want to do. They've got skills, i hear.

As for the rest, so? Freedom isn't supposed to be safe, nor do equal rights mean equal incomes. Give me freedom and my guns, and I can defend myself from said criminals.
 
That's offensive to professional prostitutes who by no capitalist standard, are losers. Like the girls @ the Bunny ranch, they make bank and its what they want to do. They've got skills, i hear.

As for the rest, so? Freedom isn't supposed to be safe, nor do equal rights mean equal incomes. Give me freedom and my guns, and I can defend myself from said criminals.

read my blog on "reasons for prostitution'
this is an extract from a doctoral thesis

but equal rights means equal incomes ..
it is just a matter of intelligent organization
debits and credits
electronic monitoring using a card like VISA
you work and get the same credit like everyone else, whether you are a doctor, minister or cleaner
you withdraw from the economy in terms of rent, food, water, petrol, cigarettes, alcohol .... and this amount is the same for everyone
you still get a choice from the supermarkets, but everyone gets the same allowance to budget with
 
read my blog on "reasons for prostitution'
this is an extract from a doctoral thesis

I'd rather re-read what the Superfreakonomics guys have to say TBH. I'll not do your homework for you, either present an argument here or don't. Spare me the assigned reading.

but equal rights means equal incomes ..

Only if you eliminate rights and institute another one of those failed planned economies, with extreme wealth redistribution.

it is just a matter of intelligent organization

Yep I thought so...

debits and credits

As an accountant, I can tell you these terms alone are meaningless. Debits and credits of what? Rich bank accounts until all wealth is redistributed? Pass.

electronic monitoring using a card like VISA
you work and get the same credit like everyone else, whether you are a doctor, minister or cleaner

Then why spend the time to be a doctor when you can make just as much being a cleaner, or whatever. This idea is SO FAIL.

you withdraw from the economy in terms of rent, food, water, petrol, cigarettes, alcohol .... and this amount is the same for everyone
you still get a choice from the supermarkets, but everyone gets the same allowance to budget with

And eliminate the incentive for production, productivity, innovation and investment? No thanks, I'm happy being free to work harder than others to have more than them.

Why on earth would equal income be worth all the horror it would cause to you? What good would it do compared to all the harm? You know what would happen if tomorrow everyone's bank accounts were averaged out? Yours, mine and Bill Gates? Losers would blow the money right away, winners would take it by selling them whatever crap they blew their money on OR spend less than they make and becomes wealthier.

I for one enjoy technology, science, media and gadgets too much to stomp out any reason for people to continue to produce newer better ones. I also HATE the stench of envy.
 
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read my blog on "reasons for prostitution'
this is an extract from a doctoral thesis

but equal rights means equal incomes ..
it is just a matter of intelligent organization
debits and credits
electronic monitoring using a card like VISA
you work and get the same credit like everyone else, whether you are a doctor, minister or cleaner
you withdraw from the economy in terms of rent, food, water, petrol, cigarettes, alcohol .... and this amount is the same for everyone
you still get a choice from the supermarkets, but everyone gets the same allowance to budget with

I see you are a hard commie. I just wonder if you like communism so much, why don't you form a commune with some of your friends instead of trying to terrorize the world and turning it into a global commie dictatorship. Live whatever you want but don't impose your perspective on me, please. Fair enough?
 
prostitutes don't love their job ... they are forced into it because of the structure of capitalism
as for the wealth ... complete acquisition of monies, property and means of production by the state and only allowances distributed as weekly income for which there is a choice of products to purchase
the doctor will want to study ... not for the money ... but for the pleasure of enlightenment and serving the people ... there are heaps of that kind
why work harder than you have to ... nobody to pat you on the back ... why do you like to have more than your brother .. . . isn't that a little evil?
equality not only takes away the class barrier, it eliminates war and poverty if done globally with a world federated government
innovation for your gadgets will not stop, it might slow down as people realize that we don't need to compete, but what else do we need ... we got it all pretty good already ....
 
Good, show us the way, give an example. Make a commune and if it works, we will consider it for implementation large scale.
You can start with proper English (capital letters, etc.)
 
Good, show us the way, give an example. Make a commune and if it works, we will consider it for implementation large scale.
You can start with proper English (capital letters, etc.)

it is not possible to start a commune without the support of the whole world
it just doesn't work
the problem of trade and value for labor arise
 
prostitutes don't love their job ... they are forced into it because of the structure of capitalism
as for the wealth ... complete acquisition of monies, property and means of production by the state and only allowances distributed as weekly income for which there is a choice of products to purchase
the doctor will want to study ... not for the money ... but for the pleasure of enlightenment and serving the people ... there are heaps of that kind
why work harder than you have to ... nobody to pat you on the back ... why do you like to have more than your brother .. . . isn't that a little evil?
equality not only takes away the class barrier, it eliminates war and poverty if done globally with a world federated government
innovation for your gadgets will not stop, it might slow down as people realize that we don't need to compete, but what else do we need ... we got it all pretty good already ....

First off, prostitutes are not forced into their job due to capitalism. They choose to do that instead of working at a supermarket, or any other job that requires minimal training. They choose to be prostitutes, they aren't forced.

Many jobs will go unfulfilled in your dream world because people won't want to do them, and can do other easier things for money.

I don't think it's evil to have more than somebody else. People don't offer equal skill sets to society, therefore they should not be paid like they do. Anybody can stock shelves, not everyone can run the business. People should be paid according to how hard they work and what they produce, if you find that evil, then I guess I'm evil.

It will not eliminate all wars. There are always going to be groups of people upset with other groups of people and they will fight.

Your fairy tale land isn't possible.
 
First off, prostitutes are not forced into their job due to capitalism. They choose to do that instead of working at a supermarket, or any other job that requires minimal training. They choose to be prostitutes, they aren't forced.

Many jobs will go unfulfilled in your dream world because people won't want to do them, and can do other easier things for money.

I don't think it's evil to have more than somebody else. People don't offer equal skill sets to society, therefore they should not be paid like they do. Anybody can stock shelves, not everyone can run the business. People should be paid according to how hard they work and what they produce, if you find that evil, then I guess I'm evil.

It will not eliminate all wars. There are always going to be groups of people upset with other groups of people and they will fight.

Your fairy tale land isn't possible.

prostitutes do not choose their job because they like to give oral ten time a day. They are stuck in their predicament because of their poor parents. Their parents were of low socioeconomic status and were not able to provide adequately for their children. This is capitalism! If Plato had his way, the state would care for all the children and they would all be rearer equally

In my dream, all people are innately good and will volunteer to job share.

The skill set that people offer to society should be determined on choice. If one lives to work, then the world is a better place. People should enjoy the job that they do. The problem is that the capitalist society dictates that one has to work to live ... that makes work miserable. ... people get depressed ... then angry ... then violent!

If we were given everything by the government ... there is no reason to fight!
 
it is not possible to start a commune without the support of the whole world

Yeah, right, so you decided to take over the world and turn it into a global commune, huh? Congratulations, you would make a perfect soldier of the Antichrist.
 
Yeah, right, so you decided to take over the world and turn it into a global commune, huh? Congratulations, you would make a perfect soldier of the Antichrist.

what about china?
isn't that perfect
a perfect working machine
a lobor force that supplies the world and are content!
 
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