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Christmas Tree vs Holiday Tree

Which one is it?

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megaprogman said:
Wait, how many posts have you ranted about the terminology of holiday tree vs christmas tree now and this supposed battle between christians and everyone else? Its amazing you can categorize yourself so.
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You're saying Independent Conservatives can't be Christian?
 
Dooble said:
You're saying Independent Conservatives can't be Christian?
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That has nothing to do with what I am saying. I am saying your powers of self assessment are lacking.
 
Dooble said:
Explain, please.
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You believe there is a war on Christmas and your evidence is that some people call a third week of december tree a holiday tree and then you try to point out that others are social extremists.
 
Dooble said:
Oh, heck no! Extremists are nutjobs. I am Conservative, however. I'm an Independent Conservative.
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I see

What are you conservatively independent from?

For example, do you deny that humans are causing the earth to warm, via activites such as fossil combustion and de-forestation?
 
I understand the Christmas trees pagan routes but calling it a holiday tree is gay.
 
Holy crap. A holiday thread about specific names for a decorated tree turns into a bunch of intolerant, racist, anti-semetic rants. Good job! Jesus must be so proud of how some folks celebrate his birthday.

:rock
 
Klown said:
I see

What are you conservatively independent from?

For example, do you deny that humans are causing the earth to warm, via activites such as fossil combustion and de-forestation?
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Absolutely. Don't you? Where's the evidence if you do believe humans are murdering the planet?
 
DiAnna said:
Holy crap. A holiday thread about specific names for a decorated tree turns into a bunch of intolerant, racist, anti-semetic rants. Good job! Jesus must be so proud of how some folks celebrate his birthday.

:rock
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Lol...Merry Christmas Diahna...or Happy Holidays which ever you prefer...see you have to walk down the street now and if you want to greet someone you dont know this time of year...you have to ask them..Can I say Merry Christmas or must I say Happy Holidays or do I have be more specific so as not to offend you...because all I want to do is really greet you cheerfully.

Now there will be 15 posts on how I should just STFU and Say Happy Holidays...I dont wanna though :(
 
Dooble said:
Absolutely. Don't you? Where's the evidence if you do believe humans are murdering the planet?
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I dont know whos murdering the planet but you guys sure murdered the guys thread lol
 
lpast said:
I dont know whos murdering the planet but you guys sure murdered the guys thread lol
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Talk to the detractors. This is my thread.
 
Dooble said:
OK, you are lying.

A. You failed to single me out in your original op.
B. Liberals take shots like this all the time at Conservatives, and you were no exception.

There was no need to read your mind; your words spoke volumes. Give it a rest.
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Your rightwing extremism has caused you to be unable to actually read my post and decipher it's CLEAR meaning. I have found research that shows that extremists of both parties, when confronted with things that do not fit in their world view, involuntarily turn off the cognitive parts of their brains because of the cognitive dissonance that is created. Let's see if that's what has happened here. Here is my original post... QUOTING you:

CaptainCourtesy said:
Ah... a rightwing hack who has no clue on this topic. Good to know. This has zero to do with liberals or conservatives. It has to do with rigidity and closed-mindedness vs. flexibility and real understanding of the issues. Lots of folks have tried to educate you on this issue. Your refusal to listen places you firmly in the first group.
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Notice... first I identify YOU as a right wing hack and as whom I am addressing. Second, I clearly say in my last sentence that YOU fit in with the rigid and closed-minded crowd. And lastly, I say CLEARLY that the issue has nothing to do with liberals or conservatives. Hence I CLEARLY singled you out in my comments.

Typical of an extreme conservative like yourself to lie... or perhaps the research was correct and you just stopped understanding because I confronted you on something that you could not handle. Now, do you want to apologize for lying, or shall I continue to make you look silly and humiliate you?
 
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I voted Holiday Tree, if only to stoke absolutely wasted fury.
 
If you are celebrating Christmas and you call your tree a holiday tree you should be bitch slapped. If you are just celebrating the holiday season with a tree that is exactly like a Christmas tree than I think you are being absurd, but I don't really care. Hardly matters though since this whole business got started with unnecessary PC garbage.
 
Klown said:
The New Testament on which Christianity is based upon is morally incompatible with the barbarism found in the Old Testament.
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You didn't give me a yes or no answer there. Seems you realize that Christianity is still based partly on parts of the OT, but you don't want to come out and admit it.

Ever wondered why Orthodox Jews reject the New Testament and Christianity?
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Orthodox Jews reject many of the beliefs liberal Jews accept. What's your point?
 
obvious Child said:
You didn't give me a yes or no answer there. Seems you realize that Christianity is still based partly on parts of the OT, but you don't want to come out and admit it.



Orthodox Jews reject many of the beliefs liberal Jews accept. What's your point?
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????

liberal Jews?

You do realise that being Jewish is a merely a religious decision? Like being Muslim or Christian. Jews follow the Torah or Old Testament. Jewishness isnt a nationality.

An atheist Jew is as non sensical as an antheist Christian

I am not sure what angle you are pushing here
 
Klown said:
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liberal Jews?

You do realise that being Jewish is a merely a religious decision? Like being Muslim or Christian. Jews follow the Torah or Old Testament. Jewishness isnt a nationality.
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My point is that using orthodox as a standard is poor considering their rejection of many things other Jews follow.

I ask you again, do you think that the OT is completely irrelevant to Christianity?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
And rightwing extremists like you always fail at mindreading, as you did. I was referring to you... and with every post you make what I said more and more valid. Please continue.
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Oh he can read. He read post #133, realized he was destroyed and is now pretending that post doesn't exist

Dooble said:
There was no need to read your mind; your words spoke volumes. Give it a rest.
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As does your failure to address post #133 after insulting me, furthermore your deliberate avoidance AFTER you insulted me is noted
 
obvious Child said:
My point is that using orthodox as a standard is poor considering their rejection of many things other Jews follow.

I ask you again, do you think that the OT is completely irrelevant to Christianity?
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Not completely irrelevant - I just see Christianity as a direct moral response to the barbarism that is found in the Old Testament. THere are many moral inconsistencies arrising when you compare the two texts - which is not surprising seeing as they emerged from different contexts and periods.

I realise many dont define being Jewish as purely a religious expression or category - but its historical context is clear. If you ask an Orhtodox Jew what does it mean to be a Jew, they will say that being Jewish is a religious or spiritual commitment to the Torah. Just like being Christian. Where does that leave Jews who decide to be atheists or even Christian or Muslim? Well according to Orthodox Jews they relinguish their Jewishness - they become athiests rather than Jews. Now this narrow definition has been broadened over the year to define being Jewish as a cultural as well as a religious commitment.

Its a little bit like the terms Arab and Muslim - only one of these is strictly a religious denomination. The other is essentially a nationality or demographical group
 
Klown said:
Not completely irrelevant - I just see Christianity as a direct moral response to the barbarism that is found in the Old Testament. THere are many moral inconsistencies arrising when you compare the two texts - which is not surprising seeing as they emerged from different contexts and periods.
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Thus is your interpretation. But many Christians would disagree with you that Christianity almost wholesale abandoned the OT.

I realise many dont define being Jewish as purely a religious expression or category - but its historical context is clear. If you ask an Orhtodox Jew what does it mean to be a Jew, they will say that being Jewish is a religious or spiritual commitment to the Torah.
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Correction: Their interpretation of the Torah. Orthodox are seen as liberal compared to the Haredi, who to me don't seem all that different from Islamic whackjobs.
 
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