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Should we spend taxpayer dollars on AIDS [W: 139]

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AIDS is a disease that for the most part is due to promiscuous sex or drug abuse and IMO taking money from things like childhood leukemia, MS, Parkinson's etc and giving it to a group of people who pretty much deserve what they got is a huge waste of resources. The only reason we spend so much money on it is that so many people that have it or fear they may contract it are so vocal and being gay is
so trendy as a current human right. So heres the question, should we be funding research to cure these people or worse yet find a vaccine to let them engage in their risky lifestyle with no consequences?

EDIT: sorry I blew the poll part but I would be interested in your opinions.
 
Absolutely, yes. Seeking out cures for life threatening diseases should ovveride any bizzare notions of moral prequisites. In no way is the loss of life that could have otherwise been prevented any less tragic. The fact that you seemed distressed at the mere thought of those with differing lifestyles regaining the chance to live healthily or simply to see another day is deeply disturbing.
 
Absolutely, yes. Seeking out cures for life threatening diseases should ovveride any bizzare notions of moral prequisites. In no way is the loss of life that could have otherwise been prevented any less tragic. The fact that you seemed distressed at the mere thought of those with differing lifestyles regaining the chance to live healthily or simply to see another day is deeply disturbing.

My problem is this is a very preventable disease and it takes research time and money from other diseases that people get through no fault of their own.
 
Yes we should...theres many people and infants that get aids through no fault of their own...aids is a disease that kills...and causes great suffering.
I dont think we should spend more money or effort curing aids than lets say cancer...horrible diseases are just that and should all be treated the same.
 
My problem is this is a very preventable disease and it takes research time and money from other diseases that people get through no fault of their own.
Many diseases are technically preventable, but keep in mind many of those were afflicted through no fault of their own. In any case, medical professionals and researchers alike don't serve to second guess the judgement and morals of the individuals in question, they fulfill the role of humanitarian and civil servant. As for the claim of overfunding, that's up for debate among medical and federal circles.
 
I heard somewhere that they believe there will be a wave of new HIV cases in the near future due to young people no longer using protection.
 
Ill bite, where exactly am I being ignorant?

All of it.

My country of South Africa has been ravaged by HIV aids.

Your thoughts are not only wrong, but disgusting if you are trying to make the claim that 100's of thousands of my countrymen deserve to die because of something you THINK they did but don't actually know.

You're an insult to intelligence.
 
All of it.

My country of South Africa has been ravaged by HIV aids.

Your thoughts are not only wrong, but disgusting if you are trying to make the claim that 100's of thousands of my countrymen deserve to die because of something you THINK they did but don't actually know.

You're an insult to intelligence.

They are getting it through unprotected sex. Not only that but anal sex is widely used in Africa as a form of birth control.Anal sex generally has some bleeding involved which greatly increases the risk of aids so if you are having unprotected anal sex and get aids it is your own dumb ass fault. Now lets compare that to childhood leukemia. Kids get this disease through no fault of their own. Where should the research dollars go in your opinion?
 
They are getting it through unprotected sex. Not only that but anal sex is widely used in Africa as a form of birth control.Anal sex generally has some bleeding involved which greatly increases the risk of aids so if you are having unprotected anal sex and get aids it is your own dumb ass fault. Now lets compare that to childhood leukemia. Kids get this disease through no fault of their own. Where should the research dollars go in your opinion?

Here's something you should do.

In regards to almost everything you discuss whether it be this, or climate change or whatever.

Don't talk about things you don't actually understand and have no knowledge about.

You are a monument to ignorance.
 
Here's something you should do.

In regards to almost everything you discuss whether it be this, or climate change or whatever.

Don't talk about things you don't actually understand and have no knowledge about.

You are a monument to ignorance.

In other words you can't or won't answer my question.
 
Many get AIDS through error or ignorance as well as those who could have been more responsible. It has done great harm and much effort has gone into dealing with the challenge.

This is a DISCUSSION board and your rudeness to sawyer is neither appropriate or helpful.


All of it.

My country of South Africa has been ravaged by HIV aids.

Your thoughts are not only wrong, but disgusting if you are trying to make the claim that 100's of thousands of my countrymen deserve to die because of something you THINK they did but don't actually know.

You're an insult to intelligence.
 
They are getting it through unprotected sex. Not only that but anal sex is widely used in Africa as a form of birth control.Anal sex generally has some bleeding involved which greatly increases the risk of aids so if you are having unprotected anal sex and get aids it is your own dumb ass fault. Now lets compare that to childhood leukemia. Kids get this disease through no fault of their own. Where should the research dollars go in your opinion?

Sawyer...that is not true anymore...infants are being born with aids...women and men get aids through having heterosexual relationships with people they CARE ABOUT and dont know they have aids...and who may not know themselves they have contracted aids...look..

Looking for cures for PREVENTABLE diseases is nothing new....Syphyllis was a preventable disease and they worked on it and cured it...this is not hing new...
 
Sawyer...that is not true anymore...infants are being born with aids...women and men get aids through having heterosexual relationships with people they CARE ABOUT and dont know they have aids...and who may not know themselves they have contracted aids...look..

Looking for cures for PREVENTABLE diseases is nothing new....Syphyllis was a preventable disease and they worked on it and cured it...this is not hing new...

I know there are some innocent victims of AID's but they are very small percentage. Why not concentrate on diseases like childhood Leukemia, Parkinson's MS etc. There are only so many research dollars and minds to go around so why not get the most bang for your buck. AID's should be at the bottom of the list not the top.
 
I know there are some innocent victims of AID's but they are very small percentage. Why not concentrate on diseases like childhood Leukemia, Parkinson's MS etc. There are only so many research dollars and minds to go around so why not get the most bang for your buck. AID's should be at the bottom of the list not the top.

How about concentrating on all of them...seriously if your child or grandchild got aids or childhood leukemia...would you value their life less if it was aids ?
 
The sad reality is there are only so many dollars to go around, you have to prioritize.

So you would be willing to throw your child away because you think theres a need to priortize our dollars for curing diseases...Sawyer, I dont know what to think about how you think.
 
A substantial number of people with HIV... don't know they have it. Nor do they know their partners have it. It's an epidemic, regardless of any backwards notions of sexual morality. Here's a scenario. One partner gets HIV from a cheating spouse. Tell me exactly why that person should be disregarded? No one's plight should be abandoned because sex makes some people uncomfortable.
 
So you would be willing to throw your child away because you think theres a need to priortize our dollars for curing diseases...Sawyer, I dont know what to think about how you think.

If it were my child I would spend my last dollar but in the big picture society has to prioritize. Dollars are not limitless and when you spend so much money on AID's you take it from other diseases that are not preventable. Look at a little kid with Leukemia then look at some promiscuous gay needle sharing drug addict and then you tell me how our limited dollars are better spent.
 
A substantial number of people with HIV... don't know they have it. Nor do they know their partners have it. It's an epidemic, regardless of any backwards notions of sexual morality. Here's a scenario. One partner gets HIV from a cheating spouse. Tell me exactly why that person should be disregarded? No one's plight should be abandoned because sex makes some people uncomfortable.

You unfortunately have to crunch the numbers or should anyway
 
If it were my child I would spend my last dollar but in the big picture society has to prioritize. Dollars are not limitless and when you spend so much money on AID's you take it from other diseases that are not preventable. Look at a little kid with Leukemia then look at some promiscuous gay needle sharing drug addict and then you tell me how our limited dollars are better spent.


Sawyer...terminal disease is just that...we as a society should NEVER allow humans to suffer and throw them away because they are gay or addicts..
We didnt do that to all the STRAIGHT non addicted people that caught syphillis and we shouldnt do it with aids patients either..we need to do all we can
 
AIDS is a disease that for the most part is due to promiscuous sex or drug abuse and IMO taking money from things like childhood leukemia, MS, Parkinson's etc and giving it to a group of people who pretty much deserve what they got is a huge waste of resources. The only reason we spend so much money on it is that so many people that have it or fear they may contract it are so vocal and being gay is
so trendy as a current human right. So heres the question, should we be funding research to cure these people or worse yet find a vaccine to let them engage in their risky lifestyle with no consequences?

EDIT: sorry I blew the poll part but I would be interested in your opinions.
Absolutely without question yes, we should use tax money that affects any and all humans.
 
I can't believe how outnumbered I am here. I truly believe AID's research is a huge waste of better spent resources but then again I thought Romney would win in a land slide. No wonder I live out in the woods three miles from my nearest neighbor, SHEEESH. Good night!
 
I can't believe how outnumbered I am here. I truly believe AID's research is a huge waste of better spent resources but then again I thought Romney would win in a land slide. No wonder I live out in the woods three miles from my nearest neighbor, SHEEESH. Good night!

1. AIDS can be transmitted through birth, I doubt all the children in Africa and other parts of world got AIDS from having sex with each other
2. Outside of that, no one should be punished or pushed aside for doing a normal human activity like having sex
3. No one deserves to get a disease
4. Being gay is not trendy, it's a human reality
5. You should probably move closer to civilization, or at least learn more about it.
 
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